brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

has margaret beckett been reached for comment since june 8th?

Well if she hadn't nominated Corbyn she might have just been remembered for being a lousy mediocrity of a career politician and 600 quid plant pots!

the calm quiet dignity of old Labour centrists, working away their whole careers for moderation, marginal charity policies and maintaining the awesome goodness of lightly regulated capitalism

a constitutional monarchy where only the aspirationless don't become middle class homeowners and the wealthy can enjoy the fruits of their genius unmolested by government

kids today don't know what's good for them

lol lord sainsbury taking his political toys home

(i'm fine w/him funding the arts tbh until a better method is found, perhaps powered by the nobility's heads on poles)

Sometimes I feel like people don't get mad enough about how the government spends their taxes

bear with me

There's lots of "my taxes are too high" or "my taxes went to pay for underwater basket weaving" but I don't see nearly enough outrage over the lack of simple, hard-headed negotiation when tendering public services and getting value for money. Right-wingers love the household fallacy, so how about they go the goddamn distance and call out deals like Hinckley Point C for the financial disasters they are, in those household terms? If you buy a new boiler for anything more than a grand or two you are getting FLEECED and you should be ASHAMED and CLOWNED about it until you RESIGN in DISGRACE. Safe pair of hands? Fiscally conservative? Like fuck

Near Kings Cross station, someone has scrawled 'TORY SCUM' a few times on a branch of Sainsburys express.

lol @ Progress having to look to grassroots fundraising

this new twist in the Food Dancing campaign sounds intriguing

Lol!

gl Preogress.

While the general election confounded many expectations about Jeremy Corbyn, it also confirmed that ‘one more heave’ will not work and that to win, Labour must win over people who voted Tory.

Progress, even.

Brogress

That refers to nothing, just making a note for possible future use

I wonder how they think they can win over people who voted Tory?

gotta move to the centre! tories love watered-down versions of the same tory policies they chose to vote for the last time! IT'LL WORK THIS TIME HONEST

they think, because i heard peter mandelson say so, that they've got this far on "spending" policies. but now they need also to show they are "fiscally responsible".

and in that "also" the whole mendacious nonsense collapses. like social policies are somehow "let's pretend" policies. xp

it's gonna really hurt them losing the backing of a democratic socialist firebrand like Baron Sainsbury of Turville

austerity is fiscally irresponsible bc it withers the economy, sheds jobs and reduces tax income, this is why the tories keep missing their deficit reduction targets, it's not hard ffs. you'll still get your AAA gilt ratings you mendacious fuckwits

stubborn Blairites are like the cretaceous era Dinosaurs from Mark's thread, trying to keep on keeping on and seemingly in complete ignorance of the incoming blast wave from the bolide of doom.

Is there anything more useless and pointless in the world today than Peter Mandelson?

the Prime Minister

She has comic value at least.

Mandelson does make me daydream wistfully about the Great Purge tho

noooo don't use the dinosaur metaphor it makes me sad, despite the pictures on that thread dinosaurs survived the meteor, they are called BIRDS they are pretty

blairites are not pretty they can eff off

I don't see nearly enough outrage over the lack of simple, hard-headed negotiation when tendering public services and getting value for money. Right-wingers love the household fallacy, so how about they go the goddamn distance and call out deals like Hinckley Point C for the financial disasters they are, in those household terms?

You hear a lot of "lol NHS IT projects are always over budget and terrible and miss all the deadlines" but the subtext seems to be "so we shouldn't have an NHS or IT projects, lol computers, what was wrong with bits of paper in filing cabinets AMIRITE" rather than "could we make this more efficient by being better at tendering and actually employing tender negotiators/project managers who know anything about the NHS or IT"

but yes, it would be nice to hear more outrage about this stuff beyond densely packed side panels in Private Eye

re Leave.EU banner, my bus in this morning took me past a guy who's draped his flat in union flags and put up boards saying "Independence Day 23rd June" and "BeLEAVE" all over the grass out front and was sitting in the middle of it in a deckchair enjoying watching the la-di-da bitter Remoaner commuters (this is West Oxford after all) getting riled. I am v much hoping this is not a trend I'll be seeing a lot of or for any longer than today

oh look, he made the local paper: http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/15366923.Honk_if_you_re_happy__Oxford_s_biggest_Brexiteer_marks__Independence_Day_/

aw bless, he sounds lovely

Of course he collects cut-throat razors and militaria.

it'd be irresponsible of me to suggest it's surely only a matter of time before he goes on a shooting spree with a wwii-era sten gun on his local high street, of course

he only wants to make people laugh

" "All the Labour lot are dirty talking - let's just have a bit of respect. "

Be cool lads, it's just a bit o' the ole respect

The only European he likes is a Nazi. A dead Nazi.

Meanwhile, Treeza falls at the first hurdle,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40378913

bloody difficult woman in 'no leverage' shocker

Little England is full tbf

full of twats, aye

Bloody difficult? More like lemon squeezy.

guys guys the DUP is now good:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDArK5BXsAAgTHT.jpg:large

(from 2015 manifesto)

Fuck, no way are these heid-the-ba's building a bridge to Scotland. Orange Walks are bad enough with even more of these cunts showing up. It would help attendances at Ibrox Park though.

surely Giant's Causeway can be reconstructed as a land bridge

they could parade up and down it to their hearts' content

to Hearts' content

Fuck, no way are these heid-the-ba's building a bridge to Scotland. Orange Walks are bad enough with even more of these cunts showing up. It would help attendances at Ibrox Park though.

i live right round the corner from ibrox, no fuckin way do we need any more of these bams walking the streets of a saturday. it's hard enough getting to asda on match day as it is

Exactly and Ayshire has enough bigots to cover any shortfall.

How is it that an electorate which was already deeply hostile to Toryism has managed to go through almost a decade of Tory governments far worse than Thatcher and ended up more likely to vote for them? The answer to this lies in the most miserable paradox of all: it is precisely the defensive ramparts of devolution, designed to protect Scots from Tory governments, that have insulated Scotland’s new Tory voters from the experiences that have turned people against the government down south. While austerity undoubtedly exists up here too, Scots are simply not subjected to the same unyielding barrage of reaction as the English. The SNP, still Scotland’s most credible party, flatters and reassures a wide spectrum of Scottish society when it portrays the country as a safe haven from English Tory cruelty. It should be no surprise that people who associate this comfort with Scotland’s place in the union decide to vote Tory to protect that.

http://salvage.zone/online-exclusive/give-us-peace-on-the-scottish-conservatives/

you mean voting for isolation isolates us?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40376673

That salvage article is excellent and beautifully written.

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000ORaT2F2b9TU/s/900/720/Scotland-Ireland-Maps-Cartoons-Punch-Magazine-George-Morrow-1913-10-01-299.jpg

I object.