Young Thug thread

Relationship, the one on BTG. I think it's fine but it doesn't feel as effortless as the Thug/RHQ stuff. A high bar, obviously.

they shdve collaborated before they became legends

They did, the track they did on ICFN2 is good

was thinking like a whole tape........with gucci

That would've been really cool probably, tho personally I'd pass on Hucclecote.

(Left that autocorrect for Gucci in bc lol)

lmao wtf is Hucclecote

Hucclecote Mane

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hucclecote

[young thug voice] maaaaate

I can't stop listening to this album.. rather early but tempted to say it's his best work so far

if I waste your time I reimbuuuursee

out ridin' on a bike on a very late night has p much been my life this week

not my cup of tea

oops this was meant for the vince staples thread

So this did 50% of Kodak Black's first week numbers. That's what I was afraid of. Definitely not saying that it devaluates the music but seeing as he has been a buzz artist for so long without it translating into actual sales I'm semi worried about his future.

* semi worried about his commercial future and how it will impact his artistic arc. Thug doesn't need to sell in order to be good but I'm not sure how he'll take it if people begin to consider him a flop.

this record sounding v good, might be his best yet

Do U Love Me (especially the delivery from 2:10) really doing it for me this week. Me or Us, despite being lyrically nonsensical works as a tender moment. I also like the quasi-festival/Manu Chaoness of For Y'All

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h63FK4tlLU

hell yea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyrQog0JXOA

damn this EP is impressive

https://soundcloud.com/kevin090smith/young-thug-rocket-man-remix

this has absolutely no business being as good as it is

photo is delightful

Soundcloud link is down, so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwXjgSKBJDs

wow this rules, what the hell

new EP is on spotify, elton sample included

This EP is good. I love the beat on "Real in My Veins." LODT was has always been my favorite producer for Thug.

As I see D-40 mentioned on Twitter, the discourse around this release/Thug's career is extremely boring (the Box Office Mojo-fication of music coverage is lamentable in general). I've been slowly reading Jesse McCarthy's n+1 piece on trap—which imo is pretentious in all the best ways but ymmv—so in contrast to that here's this:

Young Thug enacts a Charlie Parker theory of trap. Virtuosity, drugginess, genius, vulnerability, an impish childishness almost as a compensation for the overabundance of talent, the superfluidity of imagination. A Cocteau from East Atlanta, he teases the beat, skipping off it like a yo-yo, yodeling, crooning, blurting, squawking, purring, working his game on you, finessing, playing ad libs like Curtis Mayfield worked strings, or scatting and growling low like Louis Armstrong if he were sweating it out in a freestyle battle with James Brown, bouncing back and forth between personalities. His polymorphously perverse sexuality is so insistently graphic and deadpan that it has virtually zero erotic charge, au courant pimp talk channeled through a kind of private board game of his own imagination, a Candyland fantasia slimed in promethazine. By contrast, his persona oozes sex. In leather jackets, ultratight jeans and Janet Jackson piercing arrangements, he’s a Mick Jagger–ish rake on the make who is also shy and easily wounded, suddenly open for a hug. A favorite and telling picture posted to Instagram account thuggerthugger1 (5.2 million followers) captures him with his arm around Sir Elton John, posing like a polite politician in photo-op mode (Obama-alt) next to Sir Elton, who is dressed in a gold-trim Adidas tracksuit and a black thugger cap.

If the outlandish persona were all there was to it, he might be written off as a variant to Weezy that went nowhere. But the music really does, somehow, sound like the future, like something that’s never been tried before, a radical experiment. His concern for innovating, like his persistent concern for his kidney health, is a marker of identity, not just a lifestyle. The boundaries he pushes are only partly for our benefit; his chameleon love affair with the frisson of the louche, the lawless elasticity of language, and the plasticity of the self-fashioning body in motion is all of a piece. He insists on being the soloist and chorus all at once; his is an orchestral impulse, a surround sound lyricizing every inch of space on the track. Words aren’t about what they mean, but, in the spirit of Baraka’s “Black Dada Nihilismus,” only how they sound. They are rhetorical and lyrical ammunition, raw material to freak like Jimi, not satisfied until the instrument wails, weirds out, trips over itself with a surplus that is no longer within respectable or even recognizable bounds — hence Thugger’s fundamental queerness in the most capacious sense of that word. Free spirit from day one: “When I was 12, my feet were so small I wore my sisters’ glitter shoes. My dad would whoop me: ‘You’re not going to school now, you’ll embarrass us!’ But I never gave a f —  what people think.” The music critic for the Washington Post writes that “if he lived inside a comic book, his speech balloons would be filled with Jackson Pollock splatters,” which is halfway there (why not Basquiat?). Thugger is more exciting than Pollock, who never wore a garment described by Billboard as “geisha couture meets Mortal Kombat’s Raiden” that started a national conversation. Thugger’s work is edgier, riskier, sans white box; if anything it is closer to Warhol in coloration, pop art without the pretension. It is loved, admired, hated, and feared by people who have never and may never set foot in a museum of “modern art.”

https://nplusonemag.com/issue-32/essays/notes-on-trap/

man idk that's pretty bad

i mean i'm probably not on that piece's wavelength tbh

lol no worries :) I might be alone in feeling nostalgic for 90s-ish academics-trying-be-hip cultural commentary

tbh I'd be up for reading just about anything that didn't start from the premise that dude has flushed his career down the toilet like we're all shareholders

why is so much hip hop discourse like that? I don't get it?

i am a shareholder in Young Thug Inc.

YTI is at underperform so you might want to explore your options

man idk that's pretty bad

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:49 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

i think the new project is good enough but not touching the stuff from 2014-2016

last thing that really grabbed me was jeffery

selling my stock

A lot of writers are really invested in promoting the narrative of Young Thug as some unassailable creative genius, aren't they? All of those name drops in the n+1 piece are astounding, it almost reads like parody of the discourse that has surrounded him over the last 5 years or so.

n plus 1 sux

good Noisey interview with the engineer, interesting comments on the Rocket Man leak:

How hard of a secret is that to keep?
I actually hadn’t heard it until I got it for this project, which was after the leak. I don’t listen to any leaks. If I see it, I block whoever posted it and move on. It’s that upsetting where it’s like, I’d just rather not. So when someone wants to talk about it, I just block them and go about my day. It’s just easier. I would be angry all the time if that’s all I saw. I saw it briefly, and people were hitting me, and I was just like, I don’t know. It’s one of those situations where you hope it doesn’t ruin a great song and this time we didn’t let that happen. When it comes to songs leaking, it’s such a sore spot especially for us considering how many songs leaked in the past. I’m just happy this one made the cut. It’s such a big moment for him, that I’m glad he didn’t let people outside of the camp ruin it for him.

https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/ev7p9k/alex-tumay-young-thug-on-the-rvn-engineer-interview

He is awful live.

tbh many rappers in that genre are

unless you're there to mosh and party, then they're great

nah even for that he’s terrible

tbh many rappers in that genre are

― niels, Saturday, October 6, 2018 6:16 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw him live a couple of years ago and he was pretty good as far as I can remember.

new album (So Much Fun) just dropped

It has a song called 'Sup Mate' :'-D

Appropriate album title IMO