Scott Walker. (RIP March 2019)

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Might be more listenable than his last few records

Unchanging Window (Ross), Monday, 19 June 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08z2x62

This one.

The Proms: Scott Walker. It's on 6Radio tonight, and on BBC4 on Friday. Link above to the TV prog.

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

Link doesn't work, but holy shit.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:10 (six years ago) link

Is that from a few years ago or a new proms?

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link

link seems fine here.

prom is TONIGHT, hawley's just been talking about it with maconie.

koogs, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

there've been a couple of walker-centric programmes recently btw

Late Junction Jarvis Cocker Scott Walker mixtape
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08xcxms

Freak Zone Scott Walker Special
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08yx7wt

oh, there's a page with them all on, some recent, some archive, some clips...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0590947

koogs, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

Going to this tonight, extremely excited, although I can already tell that Jarvis is going to be the weak link here. I'm guessing they'll give him some of the more knockabout material though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

if someone can audio capture this i'd be etc etc

i'm in a classical news group that has been capturing all the classical ones but IDK if they'll upload this one

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

I'm assuming this will be on the telly at some point? I hope.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

It's on Radio 3 tonight, I know that.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

... 'This programme will be available shortly after broadcast', says the Beeb website.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

the max richter show was rather lovely on sunday morning.
he has a lovely radio voice, and his selections were perfect for the hour of the day and my physical state.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

like I say, it will be on BBC4 on Friday

Mark G, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Oh right, didn't notice that.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

Am I the only one who prefers earlier Scott?
Some of my favourite tunes are on his later records
Like sleepwalkers woman, farmer in the city and Clara but I can't imagine feeling like putting drift on anytime soon. Whereas I'd put on Scott 3 or 4 in a heartbeat

Week of Wonders (Ross), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link

Scott 3, Climate and Tilt are honestly dead even for me, each deeply satisfying to hear all the way through but the parts of me they satisfy are v different

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

Going to this tonight, extremely excited, although I can already tell that Jarvis is going to be the weak link here. I'm guessing they'll give him some of the more knockabout material though.

... aaaaand he's opened up with "Boy Child", which is about as far from knockabout as you can get. He seems to be doing it as Jake Thackray though and not Scott Walker.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

Sound quality rather better on R3 than on R6M for this, FWIW.

Would like to hear Susanne Sundfør have a bash at Scope J. Any time, perhaps.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Another time, perhaps, I meant.

Everyone is doing fine, but only Susanne should go near Such A Small Love.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

A friend has posted the programme on FB. No one is doing SASL. Wise.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

Yes, if anyone hadn't realized before, these songs are hard to sing.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

Going to listen the shit out of this when it surfaces afterwards.

Matt DC I am soo jealous, would love to hear how it was being there!

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link

(didn't i read somewhere that radio 3 were doing lossless streaming (flac) for the proms? Website mentions binaural but not lossless)

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

29 days left to listen

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 07:52 (six years ago) link

Enjoying Hawley's very downbeat "Two Ragged Soldiers."

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:21 (six years ago) link

Seems very apt that Jarvis is doing the 'Til the Band Comes In material

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:25 (six years ago) link

Sundfør killin it on "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg"

Dancing on the Pylons, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

Will check this out later but scanning the track list can't help thinking it's a bit disrespectful to ignore nearly everything post Scott 4. No one's expecting 'SDSS1416+13B(Zercon, a flagpole sitter)', but some acknowledgement of where he is now would have been nice.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

This was fantastic. Jarvis was pretty obviously out of his depth but he had a choir to help him with the difficult bits, he's got a way of phrasing that worked with the more downbeat material though. Susanne Sundfor's higher register is astonishing and her voice has WAY more power than I would have expected - there's still something a bit off about her lower register though that I can't put my finger on. John Grant just has the right voice for this and his Seventh Seal was incredible, he can't quite get at the sadness of some of the songs though (his own stuff is extremely sad but there's often a distancing layer there). Whereas Richard Hawley isn't anywhere near as good a singer (and I've never engaged with his solo material) but he got a certain beaten down vibe really well.

Essentially these songs are pretty much never going to be performed like this again and the goodwill in the venue was obvious.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 08:34 (six years ago) link

Sundfør killin it on "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg"

This was the highlight of the night for me. Listening on the radio, that is.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 09:39 (six years ago) link

Frankie Boyle!

koogs, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

I no.

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 11:28 (six years ago) link

I feel like if cocker were really a fan of these songs he would have un-blagged his way out of this programme but what can you do, he's just about tolerable I guess (speaking as someone who's attended his performance of a song from the drift and experienced the true nightmare of albarn attempting "farmer in the city")

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

I thought it was all a bit straight, too reverent. Trying to capture the feeling of these songs requires the opposite approach but then again faced with a voice like Scott's what're you going to do? The Old Man's Back Again was fucking awful: Hawley sounded like he was reading it off a piece of paper, and it was missing that "James Jameson in the Eastern Bloc" bassline. Too much separation between the backing musicians and the singers: it felt like they both happened to be in the same place at the same time but didn't really gel.

Dan.S., Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

It felt like a eulogy for a guy who's more alive and creatively present than, say, Jarvis is.

Dan.S., Saturday, 29 July 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

I'd say even Jarvis would agree with that.

It may be heretical to say this, but Sundfors take on 'Angels and Ashes' was just better than the original - each lineverse had differences whereas the original doesn't so much.

Not by much, but.

Jarv was ok, John Grant was the best bloke voice, Richard Hawley managed to get close to a cigar to Scotts voice.

Some songs worked better than others.

And now Reginald..

Mark G, Saturday, 29 July 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

The arrangement of "The Seventh Seal" might have been better than the original, it had a nice coda. The rest were probably a bit too reverent, John Grant was good but stuck so close to the recorded versions if Scott had sneezed in a song he'd have sneezed too.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

but that was on 'The Drift'

Mark G, Saturday, 29 July 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

just listened to the prom. made me want to listen to all the original versions again...

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 09:58 (six years ago) link

Oddly, while I could hear the shortcomings of the voices and the overly-reverent arrangements (but still mostly enjoyed it) listening live on R3 on Tuesday, when I watched it the TV version on iPlayer late on Friday night, I found it tremendously moving. It was perhaps only Grant's performances that didn't grab me, as he was the most nearly-Scott; everyone else had to do something different.

But, yeah, Saturday was spent packing boxes to the entirety of the Five Easy Pieces boxset.

Michael Jones, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

gutted i missed this

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 10:21 (six years ago) link

it's on iplayer, radio and tv

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

Haven't got a TV license :-/ and the BBC radio app insists I log in now, which is a bridge too far for me

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 10:30 (six years ago) link

You can skip that login at the moment, look underneath ...

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link

get_iplayer...

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

you need a tv license

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnTBzbpGKI

koogs, Monday, 31 July 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

Yeah, its all over YouTube.

Mark G, Monday, 31 July 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

ah that's okay then. thanks all

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 31 July 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link


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