itt: cartoons abt uk politics that are bad cartoons

polly toyn

i like how the cartoonist just went ahead and wrote "shit" on the pile of things he hated

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fa09e347c-dcf5-11e6-b8ce-5a639b2dfcaa.jpg?crop=3460%2C1946%2C263%2C147&resize=685

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDAKNPxWsAAEKGR.jpg:large

bit sad abt nosferatu, he did bad things but he doesn't deserve this

bad cartoon about Europe from 1989

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2f/6d/49/2f6d49ea9ea51c4bd0ab05b1b7fbea2d.jpg

Hallmark of bad cartoons = everything has to be labelled. I know this has been said before, but they keep doing it. Are there editors out there encouraging this?

Also, am yet to see a successful rendition of Michael Gove. He is somehow beyond caricature,

did you not see the cartoon above portraying him as a fish eating Boris Jonson's head or

brookes is just drawing pob

drawing him as pob is ok because he does look quite like pob, but it's not enough because he is also much more repulsive than pob. I can see them going for a cross between pob and a human, whereas the real thing looks like a cross between pob and a body from the haunted swamp.

This is surely the canonical Gove?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oHfzDFoVDvk/UEYRaaaY5EI/AAAAAAAAF9M/afSgSxxnk_0/s1600/Stephen-Collins-17-March--001.jpg

Basically Pob crossed with Mr Bean.

Steve Bell belongs on here, though some will I'm sure defend him on the grounds of perserverence: "They don't get it... It's funny because it's not really a monkey, it's really George W Bush... Oh well, maybe next time."

Hallmark of bad cartoons = everything has to be labelled

It's more that ppl like Cummings were steeped in the history of political cartooning, where labelling was as much a part of the style as thought balloons were in comic books. And as with thought balloons, labelling in political cartoons nowadays is very hard to pull off - it's become an 'ironic' device that yes, signals 'bad' cartooning.

Not to defend Cummings, whose work always lacked Mac's visually pleasing cartooning skills - though I guess the dour ugliness of Cummings' drawing style is editorially appropriate for the Express.

I do think Cummings deserves some credit for the look of "never in all my days" indignation on the Sovereignty Dolphin

Thatcher in a swimsuit is really disturbing me

cummings has a style, i always liked the thickness of his line (not well shown off in this example)

i will defend bell: he has a highly original symbolist imagination, which i think is a hard thing to retain after decades of turning out cartoons to order several times a week

(if he has flaws they are rarely the flaws of reach-down banality: i wd honestly rather an artist is drifting the outer reaches of his/her unconscious for insight and intuitive connection than hunkering down in the ante-room of cliche) (true he's sometimes very bad on the power dynamics of sex stuff: there be dragons in the outer reaches of yr unconscious)

i always enjoyed the pleasure cummings took in drawing brezhnev

I always stand by Steve Bell as an uncompromising angry leftist in a world of scumbags.

I also think that his bigger images often show him painting really well and evocatively. He has a good appreciation of art history and artistic method. And he is also a lucid and intelligent writer, better than many other people who write for the Guardian but can't draw.

he was rubbish on university challenge (alumni edition) though.

still have fond memories of the complete set of the collected 'If...' as a kid, 7 or 8 volumes, probably long term borrowed from my older brother or parents.

... there was a quotidian, almost cosy quality to its anarchic silliness, not unlike the young ones.

man at bar: lager lager lager lager lager lager lager 'n' a babycham
penguin: congratulations on your brilliant impression of a bus breaking down!

^ quality original material

Steve Bell is not bad as an artist, surely. I mean he has his own very distinctive style which works well.
He does keep doing things like this though

https://edinburgheye.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/stevebell_incest.jpg

I like If and Maggie's Farm

Steve Bell's debt to Robert Crumb + American underground comix seems more or less unique for a UK editorial cartoonist?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEIO1g0XYAAJfvk.jpg

terrible + disablist cartoon in Osborne's Evening Standard shocker.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGOEdB6W0AAHrQr.jpg:large

quite like adams' angular style, this isn't a bad cartoon in the sense the o/p is a bad cartoon

obviously his politics are as bad as his grasp of what's going on in venezuela or indeed the labour party

venezuela was clearly going to be something the press were going to beat corbyn with so I'm unsurprised but disappointed that his team hasn't thought up some sort of response to this.

of course it might end up not bothering the public, as the IRA stuff apparently was reasonably ineffective during the GE.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/08/02/17-08-03x243blower_1-xlarge_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vEN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg

Corbyn's one mad staring eye seems to be thing with right wing cartoonists.

fuck me i wish they had disappeared Watson 12 months ago

i like that even though tom watson isn't the target of the cartoon they've still depicted his inflated gut

hey, always room for a bit of body-shaming, target or not

"CHAVEZ REMEMBERED"

sinister seamus requires no such nudge

Trash the economy & eradicate all opposition - same old hard left whether #Venezuela or #CorbynsLabour pic.twitter.com/RxiSCrHtbl

— Anna Soubry MP (@Anna_Soubry) August 3, 2017

Soubry, of course, repeatedly painted as the moderate Tory it's OK to like.

attempting to eradicate all opposition by holding a snap election is a-ok of course

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/E0XHXE/mao-zedong-with-wife-jiang-qing-E0XHXE.jpg
Fiona Hill (left) Nick Timothy (right).

It's worth watching Andrew Mitchell defending Paul Kagame on last night's Newsnight for an insight into Tories selectiveness when it comes to defending democracy.

It's not like Soubry hasn't recent experience of been frozen out by a small party clique, who were running roughshod over any opposition, and not consulting cabinet members on major policies + an election manifesto.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGz1jIXXcAAHxXE.jpg

arguably this cartoon is in fact GREAT

Oh my fucking god lol

it's certainly sexy

Looks like God is not so great.

Ben Garrison is neither racist nor anti-Semitic and has fought back against the online trolls by writing a book.

Bouncing back!

^ from the artist's own FAQ http://grrrgraphics.com/faq.html

http://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/gnatzis_garrison1.jpg

Hate how sophisticated some of these are: http://grrrgraphics.com/store/p30/Abandon_Ship%21_Brexit%2C_Great_Britain%27s_Escape_.html

This one is bad not good sort of hilarious, with a truncated England representing Brexit and Brenda up in "The Big Club" with Kissinger!
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/199/995/335.jpg

posing-pouch Trump is a not a genuine Ben Garrison btw

some of these lot do make Steve Bell look very good

Marin Rownson in the Guardian just gets worse

I demand an update where one of the waves is engulfing a slave trader’s statue

no no Ben is actually the name of the flag you see

https://i.imgur.com/7QX6bza.jpg

but that is good!

Well I was going to ask, looking at the person speaking on the left there, if the artist had ever seen a human head in profile before, but it now occurs to me that he's a dead ringer for Michael Gove

top-tier acne-work

do any living, shitting polypeds on this rock actually lift their left leg when they fart? I think that is hilarious: "I'm going to jolly well fire a gaseous blast of wind out of my rectum straight into tour face you cad, haw haw!" *lifts leg*

another thing that is funny as fuck is that the portrait of the prince regent appears to be indignantly smelling the fart!

(l-r)

Harvey Keitel, DeNiro, Scorsese. First audition for Mean Streets!

not UK cartoon strictly but definitely a bad cartoon

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c0736da5b611b5725ea7f487c90ef9e8b81e93d8/14_10_3006_1805/master/3006.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/c0736da5b611b5725ea7f487c90ef9e8b81e93d8/14_10_3006_1805/master/3006.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=dc319880e33a54d3cfac090fc4b19304

wouldn't it make more sense for a bolsonaro saw to have overheated or got stuck or something before it has severed the trunk of a brazil tree? still wouldn't be good but maybe a bit less nonsensical

has jennings ever done a good one?

some of the others try and fail for depth but his stuff seems so surface that it actually hurts the point he wants to make if you try to read it as satire or metaphor

That really really needed the Brazil flag there.

it's ironic, because Bolsonaro liked to cut down trees, you see

lol gonna go against the grain (ha!) here and say that one's ok

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Ff0fbf998-7b20-11ed-bcd8-855e06175970.jpg?crop=2749%2C1833%2C595%2C164&resize=685

rip off of an episode of Hancock's Half Hour I just listened to

THE RMT DOES NOT REPRESENT TRAIN DRIVERS are you listening Peter Brookes

are Nicola Jennings and Ben Jennings related or is it just a coincidence that the Guardian employs two cartoonists with the surname Jennings who can't draw?

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d616ec63a2ecc8c5248246cd71dfdf8ac77f4f90/0_0_3035_1819/master/3035.jpg?width=940&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=90a6ca27afc37378c065620b642f5150

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/dcaecabca370f89cb48cdb5ca0478438eaecdae4/3_0_3030_1819/master/3030.jpg?width=940&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=9afcc8486cad1b88978bf8d198994a3b

going by their ages they might be mother and son? if so, they're no Matt and Edith Pritchett

wait, there's another one https://www.theguardian.com/profile/seamus-jennings

(this guy's cartoons don't seem to be quite as bad tbf)

If Ben is Nicola's son then I'm kind of impressed by the audacity of this one

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/04e2386fb0fdb31c80d7fb104a5d7ba5e8caab31/18_9_2998_1800/master/2998.jpg?width=1920&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=828ad5bb95d35b27564f96ed54bdc081

just such ugly drawings, painful to look at

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/b663ff82ef304db5840231743aa8322e73e7c071/0_0_5126_3287/master/5126.jpg?width=1300&dpr=2&s=none

could be a whole separate thread for cartoons about UK politics that are weirdly horny