I guess when _I_ moan about the Beats I mean ESPECIALLY Kerouac and Ginsberg, a couple of over-rated hacks, plus SOME of Burroughs, Clelland Holmes (all of whom hung around each other, encouraging their mutual literary wank-fest), and I would have said Selby Jnr, etc.
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 6 May 2009 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
no beat ever wrote a book like The Room. not many authors of any kind have. i don't know if i could read it again, but i'm glad i read it once.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 May 2009 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
Thomp's allcaps bit reminds me of a conversation I had in the library the other day:
Some guy: Hello, JLUT?Me: Hi, ehm, what?SG: JLUT JLUT?Me: UuuuuuSG: AYJJJLUT LETT?Me: What?SG: Do you speak English?Me: Yes I suppose soSG: JLUT?? Jlut Jlut jlut?!?Me: Wai..... TOILET!?SG: TOILET!Me: Uh, I dunno where that is, probably out thereSG: :|
(Err, sorry about ruining your thread)
― Øystein, Thursday, 7 May 2009 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
that's okay: no one has actually managed to post about british experimental writing from the era in question yet, apart from the thread starter.
― thomp, Thursday, 7 May 2009 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
i actually found it quite hard to refrain from posting several pages of amazon customer reviews of 'the cat inside', but i managed to hold myself back.
― thomp, Thursday, 7 May 2009 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, you are right! when i read those ann quin books i'll come back and post on topic stuff about them. i promise.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 May 2009 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
Lolz I just recalled from Oystein's library anecdote that I did get my library to buy a copy of Passages, but I read it in a morning and then forgot all about posting on this thread. Its hard to say much about it now however I enjoyed the desolate mood.
Need to re-read but who knows when..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 May 2009 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Post those reviews!
― James Morrison, Thursday, 7 May 2009 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
Just started reading Berg after getting all her books for Christmas (no, I had never read any before asking for every book she wrote, but I'm a Johnson stan [in fact I think I'm now actually allowed to call myself a Johnson scholar, haha], so hey, it's got to be at least interesting to me). Very good so far, though it seems trapped in the Woolfian mode a little - free indirect discourse rather than the full-on stream-of-consciousness and metatextuality that Johnson managed to deliver so well. Also chock-full of Freudian motifs that perhaps (only perhaps) seem overplayed now... but also interesting Sartrean aspects on free will and determinism... Hmm.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:11 (ten years ago) link
pleased to see that one of the great british experimental novels is getting reissued this month:
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 16:20 (ten years ago) link
I think Sorrentino provided Selby with encouragement to write - it kind of surprises me that they even knew each other. I think those guys actually grew up together or went to high school together.
― nico anemic cinema icon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:11 (ten years ago) link
Anyway I bought some of her books when Dalkey Archive first put them out, but never got around to reading them.
― nico anemic cinema icon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Which is the kind of thing I post so much on this board, there might as well be an emoticon for it.
― nico anemic cinema icon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 January 2010 17:56 (ten years ago) link
Or an acronym, like: ba;dr.
WHATTA YAMEAN THE SAUCES NO GOOD? THATS WHAT I SAID, THE SAUCES NO GOOD. WHATS THE MATTER, YA DONT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH? ITS NO GOOD. NO GOOD. NO GOOD. WHATTA YAKNOW ABOUT SAUCE? MEEEE, WHATTA I KNOW? I KNOW IT STINKS. NOT ENOUGH GARLIC. ITS GOT THE SAME GARLIC. JUST LIKE ALWAYS. THE SAME 8 CLOVES OF GARLIC AND YA SAY NOT ENOUGH GARLIC. YUR A FUCKIN DUMMY. ITS GOOD SAUCE. DONT TELL ME ITS NO GOOD. WHOSE A FUCKIN DUMMY? EH? WHO? I'LL GIVEYA A RAP IN THE MOUT IM A DUMMY. YA CANT EVEN MAKE A SAUCE.
still one of my favourite paragraphs ever written. still haven't finished that book
― thomp, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 16:53 (ten years ago) link
I'd like to see the film after seeing an ed. of the book with a shot of it on the cover.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 January 2010 11:18 (ten years ago) link
Just finished Berg. Pretty great.
― errant flynn, Saturday, 16 March 2013 04:12 (seven years ago) link
More on this thread too:
a thread for b.s. johnson, christine brooke-rose, ann quin, alan burns,
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 March 2013 09:37 (seven years ago) link
This is a nice short appreciation of Berg:
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 8 February 2016 22:18 (four years ago) link
thought i remembered he did something similar in the guardian &... who cares about ann quin?
― no lime tangier, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 05:02 (four years ago) link
anyone ever seen the movie btw?
― no lime tangier, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 05:03 (four years ago) link
I noticed when I was up over Christmas, that it was being shown on STV Glasgow. Didn't see it.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:18 (four years ago) link
Film sounds like it would be terrible. I've already had to watch the excruciating adaptation of Christie Malry, I don't think I could stand to see Berg slaughtered.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 13:55 (four years ago) link
Seems awfully familiar too, I must have seen it once, but you lose track of crap British made box office duds.
― The Robustness of Captchas (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 13:58 (four years ago) link
More from Ann Quin in 2018
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 April 2017 22:07 (three years ago) link
― TS Hugo Largo vs. Al Factotum (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:47 (three years ago) link
Recently tried reading "Tiptricks" but I managed two pages and gave up.
― Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:22 (three years ago) link
And other stories are putting a collection of short stories and fragments by Quin
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 15:43 (two years ago) link
haven't read the new collection, but it's worth following the ann quin page on facebook. the account, which i think is run by carol burns (alan burns' ex wife), occasionally posts letters and other personal documents
― dogs, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 16:35 (two years ago) link
For once I can say the words 'damn I wish I was on Facebook'.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 18:42 (two years ago) link
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 15:04 (two months ago) link
― emil.y, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 15:07 (two months ago) link
Yeah, saw that earlier
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 16:25 (two months ago) link