TS: SHOWGIRLS vs. ROAD HOUSE

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Why are you not wearing it right now

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

omg love that tee

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

would wear a "brown rice and vegetables?!?!?" one too

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

tbh I am very over the "Versayce" joke but I really like that design

he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

"I'm Afraid of Americans" originally appeared as a rough mix on the soundtrack to the film Showgirls (in which the chorus is "I'm afraid of the animals" instead of the later "I'm afraid of Americans")

"I'm afraid of the animals, I'm afraid of the woods" 🐾

Wes Brodicus, Saturday, 23 December 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

I thought this thread would be taller

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 December 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

The fact that there is a 2 disc Blu-ray for Road House now makes me happy. Why yes I own it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 December 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

what are the extras??

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 December 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

Read up! I never got the special DVD edition so I believe a fair amount is ported over but I'm not positive.

https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/road-house-collector-s-edition?product_id=4718

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 December 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

Oh wait, they indicate it -- anything marked "NEW" was done for this release.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 December 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

I mean, two separate documentaries on the stunts and the music, a full new documentary on the whole film, etc. etc. Like I said, of course I own it!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 December 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link

I kinda want that, but I gotta admit I'd pay $5 extra for a Super Special Edition that omitted this:

• Audio Commentary By Road House Fans Kevin Smith And Scott Mosier

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

Showgirls is classic

stoker (Ross), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link

Ross YOU'RE classic

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

Road House is classic.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 28 June 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

If there can be books on Showgirls there can be essay series on Road House.

Hey Roadhouse fans: @theseantcollins is doing the deepest of deep dives on it, Talmudic scholar-ly in nature, and it don't hurt. It's real good, mijo:https://t.co/Bm6K5LnTnj

— Bill Corbett (@BillCorbett) January 9, 2019

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:12 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I finally watched roadhouse and I guess I liked it? I have this annoying tic now where I involuntarily start analyzing the class politics of every film and I found this one weird in its generation of the petit bourgeoisie against both the working poor and the capitalist. All about reinstating order and hierarchy and also being tied to the land. Maybe even a little bit fascist. I’m not fun at parties and that’s actually true.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 29 February 2020 05:54 (four years ago) link

*veneration. Not generation.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 29 February 2020 05:54 (four years ago) link

I suspect you're on target, not that i'm going to reWatch it to find out.

Certainly THE OSCAR is more watchable than either of these (in terms of movies that SUCK because all three of them SUCK).

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 29 February 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link

Pain dont hurt

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 29 February 2020 07:24 (four years ago) link

i've stopped watching films and tv altogether because of the overanalyzing tic

i will say that, of the theoretical distaff variants, i would definitely watch "Road Girls" before I would watch "Show House"

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:21 (four years ago) link

girl house > road show

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link

I also kept getting stuck on why a guy named “Brad Wesley” is a Jewish stereotype played by an Italian actor.

Ultimately this one just tries a little too hard at saying something to be enjoyable as pure trash.

Jeff Healey sucks. Terrible singer, cliched guitar player.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

I guess I didn't get a Jewish stereotype? Roadhouse is more of a Western to me, Wesley is the classic evil mining big shot who runs the town

anyway, I love Roadhouse it's inspiring in how dumb and entertaining it is

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

Yeah I guess he could just be indeterminate big city rapacious guy. Maybe because Ben Gazzara already looks like he could be Jewish is why it read that way to me.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

Swayze definitely seemed to be channeling Bruce Lee’s “I have just killed Chuck Norris” face a couple times

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

Why hasn't this been reincarnated as a poll?

Ainsley James Gryffyd Lowbeer Holdsworth (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 29 February 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

bc and i say this loving both films it is obviously showgirls

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 March 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link

one other (probably obvious) observation is that the movie is not subtly homoerotic throughout (even though he literally rips the throat out of the only guy in the film who admits it) and the straight romance feels like the least convincing part of the movie, although maybe that's just because I don't find kelly lynch very attractive.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:04 (four years ago) link

one other (probably obvious) observation is that the movie is not subtly homoerotic throughout (even though he literally rips the throat out of the only guy in the film who admits it) and the straight romance feels like the least convincing part of the movie, although maybe that's just because I don't find kelly lynch very attractive.

It's part of a whole homoerotic trilogy from Swayze - Road House followed by Point Break followed by To Wong Foo...

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 1 March 2020 02:55 (four years ago) link

I mean half the movie is just both men and women gawking at Swayze, Swayze doing shirtless tai chi, Swayze ass, Kevin Tighe eyeing up swayze shirtless, Kevin Tighe eyeing up Swayze various other times, old lonely farmer eyeing up Swayze, etc., plus Sam Elliot showing his pubes and a scene that feels like it would lead to an MMF threesome with doc if it weren't a regular R rated movie.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 1 March 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

hey I already know it's a great movie, you don't have to keep selling me

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

I had somehow never seen this Helmut Newton picture of Showgirls (1995)-era Paul Verhoeven pinching his nipples, brought to my attention by @MarBarFu. Some of you may not have either, so I thought I would remedy that. pic.twitter.com/sagXOMujfa

— 💜💜𝔹𝔼 𝕊𝔸ℕ𝔻 ℕ𝕆𝕋 𝕆𝕀𝕃💜💜 (@NickPinkerton) January 6, 2021

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 08:37 (three years ago) link

Bateau my eyes!

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:57 (three years ago) link

Not sorry! I had to celebrate I'm finally going to see the You Don't Nomi documentary this week.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 11:10 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

this is the first page of Roadhouse, before FADE IN pic.twitter.com/lzkZORBwpY

— Cate (@supergayscripts) June 5, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 June 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

i just watched road house again and man

i forgot that when lynch shows up at swayze’s pad and he lifts her up to grind on her he clonks her straight back onto a rough stone chimney, couldn’t have felt nice

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

No indeed.

Anyway, this will also not feel nice.

Jake Gyllenhaal will step in for the late Patrick Swayze in a new 'Road House' remake from the director of 'Edge of Tomorrow.' https://t.co/91nXeSw2rT

— Entertainment Weekly (@EW) August 2, 2022

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

I mean if it's about Gyllenhaal continually waking up after being beaten up by Terry Funk in order to save the bar again, that's one thing, but.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

Interesting.. not a film I would consider appropriate for a remake

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

I'm just gonna pretend this doesn't exist, like the Point Break remake.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

4K!

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/road-house

This...is insane.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link

“LIMIT 2 PER CUSTOMER”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 September 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

As much as I love this movie (and I really, really love this movie) my bare-bones DVD is all I need.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 September 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

And having done the one movie, Vinegar Syndrome just announced the other!

https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/showgirls

A VSU we've been working on for over a year, and the biggest film yet to grace the line, Paul Verhoeven's cult sensation, feast for the senses, and all around madness, SHOWGIRLS is at last coming to UHD in an edition worthy of its splendor. Featuring hours of archival interviews, BTS material, commentaries, and more, among them plentiful never before seen material. Plus we’ve added a slew of fresh interviews with cast and crew, along with critical pieces examining the production and impact of this landmark film. Furthermore, we’ve performed extensive exclusive restoration using the source files from Paul Verhoeven’s supervised color grade to ensure a presentation which looks exactly as intended, but without any of the digital manipulation which has notoriously plagued other releases.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

LOL, my workplace blocked that link, as well they probably should

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 18:52 (one year ago) link

Is there a rundown somewhere online of the specific digital manipulation?

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 18:56 (one year ago) link

You got me. Might have to look around for it! Anyway I preordered this of course. Forgot to mention that last year I saw an Alamo Drafthouse one-off showing of this -- an actual FILM print, and one that was from outside the US as well. Made for a different experience, and I think a couple of changes in dialogue too but I wasn't sure...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

I didn't get to see it in the theater in its original run, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if there's an even harder NC-17 version out there that's been quietly swept under the rug (until now).

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:18 (one year ago) link

Honestly the thing that leapt out to me was that I thought other celebrities than Paula Abdul etc were mentioned at one point, in that that spiel comes up a couple of times. But it didn't happen in all cases, which was even weirder!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link


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