brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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he's a bit of a freak let's be honest

imago, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

let's face it - bottlers, piss or otherwise, are simply cultural conservative activists

imago, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link

Was that Glastonbury 97? I believe he was being pelted with mud rather than bottles (as most people were that year).

Matt DC, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:15 (six years ago) link

This was V97 in Chelmsford. Maybe it was exuberant young Blairites grappling with the k-hole.

nashwan, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

weren't we all

now wishing i'd gone with ethical pissbottle conspiracy instead of garbage fire

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:28 (six years ago) link

I'm sure the mods would happily change the thread title if asked.

calzino, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

this version doesn't really make sense but the words are better

(literally my motto as a writer)

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

It's my CLP's AGM tomorrow, as I found out from our GE candidate when buying a paper. So that might be fun, given that most of them seem to be to the right (we voted to support smith). It will probably be horribly boring and I'll wish I had a drink. Hip flask, maybe...

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Friday, 16 June 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hnxies4Wtk

"It was good, I had a smile on my face the whole time"

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

i wasn't anticipating this thread's latest turn but i'm into it tbh

EU and I alone

devvvine, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link

Theresa May is increasingly coming to resemble D&C, with the bottles of piss raining down while she tries to put a brave face on things

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 16 June 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

apologies to Daphne & Celeste for cruelly traducing their reputation

André Ryu (Neil S), Friday, 16 June 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

was gonna say, they are moral giants compared to the piss-throwers, never mind TMay

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 June 2017 13:55 (six years ago) link

Is the occasional reference to 'the absolute boy' in proximity to JC one of my rare, probably inadvertent, ILX achievements?

(I first heard it re: Clive Lewis but it seems to have solidly migrated towards JC.)

the pinefox, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

But the Express readership is still 10 pensioners in Kent, right?

The entirety of Teignmouth whenever I've visited.

wtev, Friday, 16 June 2017 14:48 (six years ago) link

that explains Muse

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

The Express is sticking it to Nick Paget Brown atm for suggesting that residents didn't want sprinklers. EU hobby horse aside, it doesn't sound like anyone is particularly keen on running interference for the Tories.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

express and mail both extremely well attuned to the "politics of bins collections" dimension of their readership's worldview, which definitely covers a lot of the delinquency under discussion -- austerity was the rhetorical linchpin that allowed them to blame such things on migrants, the unemployed and EU… if it's lost its power as a spell then the ragescope swings back to may-cameron-osborne (with brown-blair in the middle distance)

mark s, Friday, 16 June 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

good piece by matthew parris on mummy
https://pastebin.com/jktV2R1U

||||||||, Friday, 16 June 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

Sun tomorrow going with "It Was Murder". Was half-expecting them to round on the protestors.

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

the sun... otm?

that felt weird to type

Don't worry Telegraph is picking up the torch

Saturday's Daily TELEGRAPH: "Militants hijack inferno protest" #bbcpapers #tomorrowspaperstoday pic.twitter.com/FVDa8Dpj2X

— Allie Hodgkins-Brown (@AllieHBNews) June 16, 2017

stet, Friday, 16 June 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

A lot of Sun readers live in tower blocks, they can't afford to fuck the tone of this up.

Matt DC, Saturday, 17 June 2017 10:47 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile it's becoming very apparent that the authority of the PM and several of her ministers has completely collapsed, before she has even had the opportunity to form a government. This feels completely unprecedented. Difficult to see how she gets through the weekend without a couple of senior Tories taking her into a room and suggesting she jumps before they push her.

Matt DC, Saturday, 17 June 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

i posted the OJ/shipman exchange on the baldrick thread earlier: the gist of it was that in tim shipman's judgment (based on talking to 35 MPs on the phone iirc), it's not her clinging onto power so much as the grey suits clinging to her, for the time being

of course that was yesterday, a tweet is a long time in government

mark s, Saturday, 17 June 2017 11:27 (six years ago) link

meanwhile murdoch has i think decided that he'd prefer shortly to be on the attack against a corbyn govt than prop up may or her successors

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DChQbqJXYAATR7h.jpg:large

(tim shipman's argument is that the tories are now so frightened by the prospect of the damage they believe corbyn will inflict that they're doing god's work staying on: murdoch of course cares only about his own power, but if he firms that up via a badly damaged britain, this is if anything a bonus) (i think he's actively hated this country for years, and is happy to see it come to harm)

mark s, Saturday, 17 June 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

The damage Corbyn will inflict on the country or on them? Don't answer

stet, Saturday, 17 June 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

their terror of Corbyn is yet another testament to the fundamental uselessness of the party before his leadership

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 June 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

Time to dust off those Wilson-era plans for a military coup, not sure Prince Philip is up to the task of taking over now though.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 June 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

their terror of Corbyn is yet another testament to the fundamental uselessness of the party before his leadership

truthbomb

Worth pointing out here that the Times supported Remain against Murdoch's wishes and gets to pursue its own editorial line. I'm guessing the editorship knows that the version of Brexit currently being pursued would be a disaster for business and for the economically liberal right. It wants to take May down to install a different type of Tory government before it's too late.

Matt DC, Saturday, 17 June 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

the absolute boy with the absolute burn on marr when asked whether yvette cooper should have been brought into cabinet: "some of the junior ministerial posts are still vacant"

||||||||, Sunday, 18 June 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

Corbz walking on water atm.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 June 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

Anyone worrying the tories are learning the lessons of recent events will enjoy this thread:

Excellent thread of Tory self-exculpations. Failure is an orphan indeed. https://t.co/IJJcfkb125

— James B (@piercepenniless) June 18, 2017

mark s, Sunday, 18 June 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

queen's speech... cancelled altogether? what the actual fuck

Speaking on the BBC's Sunday Politics, she insisted the move was not motivated by fears the 2018 Queen's Speech could have been defeated by MPs.

"That is absolutely not the reason for doing this," she said.

"The issue is that we have an enormous job to do to make a success of Brexit."

i confess i find that reasoning unconvincing

So this leads into a larger question -- if there's no formal alliance with the DUP and/or no formalizing via said speech or whatever, do the Tories just essentially govern as the de facto largest party but without a real imprimatur?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 June 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

yeah, i assume so

the continuing arrogance is extraordinary

arrogance and terror, really

aiui, there will be a Queen's speech this week - formalising the government agenda. The one being cancelled is 2018 - so there won't be another until 2019.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 June 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

ah okay, misunderstood the bbc piece i read

lol at the idea of this government lasting for 24 months tho

Possibly you've misheard a DUP accent saying 'minutes' there

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Monday, 19 June 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link

Keep reading that as DJP

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 19 June 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

Nothing's Happened for a bit.

Mark G, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:35 (six years ago) link

our poor pm just can't catch a break

As Theresa May left the Finsbury Park mosque she was heckled by a man standing among the media scrum who shouted: “Mrs May, how can you be so quick today?”

He added: “Mrs May, have you had a faster taxi?” in reference to her perceived slowness to meet the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire last week.

A small crowd of protesters from Islington Stand Up To Racism also chanted at her from over the road.

the thing is, those people have always been there, only now the media is paying attention to them. think of the huge anti-austerity protests a few years ago that got only a small mention in national press. there's other axes being ground and its not about the concerns of those protesters.

plax (ico), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

^ we went to that and my partner, who's french, was really shocked that such a huge demo didn't get more headlines. I'd assumed it just happens too often in London.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 June 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link


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