brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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it feels like that point in a game of chess where you've already won but your opponent either isn't smart enough to know or does know it but thinks they can force a swindle

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

Yes, I looked at a dozen or so seats and none had a majority of over 5000., almost all under 2000.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

I am nowhere near that optimistic but I do want to see Labour gain loads of new Scottish MPs as part of the route to power, and think the rank impossibility of this has been strangely overstated since 2015.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link

You'll have heard of Kezia Dugdale?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

who?

Andrew Percy has stepped down from his extremely fucking busy role as the Northern Powerhouse Minister.

calzino, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

yes the events dear boy events dog that didn't bark in my analysis is: the tories unremitting venal lust for power

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link

Whatever Blairites say, the 1997 landslide was helped hugely by the steady drip-drip of terrible headlines that befell the Major government. Labour *might* be better off letting them form whatever cobbled together excuse for a government they can and then just hammering them on every single failure. The country as a whole has to decide "okay enough of this lot now", and that hasn't quite happened yet, or at least it hadn't by June 8th.

But yes, on the other hand, events.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

By the way, I've been looking at the Scottish results and Labour could win, and could have won, a hatful and another hatful on top by persuading a few Sturgeon-hating Unionists to vote for them instead of the Tories.

Wonder why it didn't occur to them to try. Dugdale out imo

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

re ian blackford, looks like all SNP MPs abstained on the bill. presumably because it's a devolved issue?

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

re ian blackford, looks like all SNP MPs abstained on the bill. presumably because it's a devolved issue?

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EVEL was enacted in 2015?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

application for the bold predictions club: theresa may's "I got us into this mess" will become the next liam byrne's "sorry there's no money left"

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

I hate liam byrne

conrad, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

No, Tories will still be repeating "Sorry there's no money left" long after "I got us into this mess" has been forgotten, they still bring up the Winter of Discontent after 40 years.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

... i.e. the equivalent of Labour politicians throwing Chamberlain in Tory faces in 1979. (xp)

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link

I now nominate Tom D. as new Lib Dem leader oh wait hang on.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

Tim Farron has resigned as LibDem leader.

syzygy stardust (suzy), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

who?

LOL, what a loser, I wonder why he waited a week to do it.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

wtf, you fool

In a statement, he said he was "torn between living as a faithful Christian and serving as a political leader".

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Please read my YA fantasy novel Tim Farron and the Lib Dem Fightback.

devvvine, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

haha what a smug prick

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

Jo Swinson is the bookies favourite, with Vince Cable in second. Cable seems unlikely considering he's only two years younger than Paddy Ashdown.

AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

he's only suspected of being a bigot bc he refuses to say he isn't and this suspicion is evidence our society isn't liberal and tolerant?

ogmor, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link

"OK, the homophobe has quit... do we have any women? Everyone else has a woman leader. Have we got any women MPs yet? I mean, ones who are better than Lynne Featherstone, of course... Joe who? I said woman MPs. She is a woman? She'll do."

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

Didn't like 80% of their MPs change over last week? Doesn't leave much to choose from.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

Norman Lamb's still there. Ed Davey's back. Don't all cheer at once.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

whither lembit opik in the libdem's hour of need

what better way to capture the nascent mood of anti-austerity abreast in the country than bedroom tax supporting jo swinson

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Mark Oaten, where are you now?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

Wow. Triggered by the Brian paddick resignation?

plp will eat itself (NickB), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link

tiny beasts

mark s, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

weren't we all tbf

Mark Oaten, where are you now?

risky question iirc

In 2011 Oaten accepted a position as executive of the International Fur Trade Federation.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Liberals are a weird bunch.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Pretty clear from Farron's statement that he really did believe all the stuff people suspected.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

_In 2011 Oaten accepted a position as executive of the International Fur Trade Federation._

i fuckin' bet he did, the dirty bastard

now farron retreats nursing a sense of injustice and lecturing everyone about tolerance, it's so gross

ogmor, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

... cherishing his hard won majority of two men and dog.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

'why can't u tolerate my intolerance i'm taking my ball and going home boohoo'

jog on you prick

lesley laird new shadow scottish secretary

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha fuck up ian murray

||||||||, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

Owen Smith accepts Shadow Northern Ireland as penance.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

ice cream all round should reduce the tension

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

I wld get in a few seconds of mirth before the despair set in if the new lib dem leader took them straight into another coalition with the tories

ogmor, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Lavery is the new party chair, Watson stays on as deputy to spare his ego.

calzino, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

lesley laird new shadow scottish secretary

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahaha fuck up ian murray

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GIRUY

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

Ian Blackford is a nasty piece of work and no mistake. Banned from Charles Kennedy's funeral for setting SNP activists down the 'Charlie The Alkie' route (including Brian Smith who ultimately was resigned from the party over it), Blackford campaigned on a "Where's Charlie" ticket despite knowing Kennedy was a full-time carer for his father and brother.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link


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