Has there been a thread about John Martyn?

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the tune "give us a ring" is my favorite john & bev track. the rest are kind of dull imo! i love that song though.

Written by Paul Wheeler for Nick Drake, iirc. It would fit quite well into Bryter Layter.

Can I just put in a word here for Oscar Jerome, who has a SE London John Martyn vibe going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04bTf2PbMqY

mahb, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link

Bless the Weather and Solid Air are probably the best intros but One World is his masterpiece

Number None, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:26 (six years ago) link

xp - huh! did not know that. might explain why i like that song better.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

listened to One World this morning -- what a weird, brilliant record.

tylerw, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

I swear by everything from London Conversation through One World.

Solid Air was my first record of his and I can't imagine a better introduction.

I've come to appreciate Live at Leeds (in both incarnations) and Inside Out the most out of all that stuff, but in that period I mentioned above, he put down one of the most consistent runs in recorded music, I'd reckon.

And he's clearly been hugely influential.

Austin, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

...on John Bonnamossa

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

sorry... the acoustic portion of the JB show I encountered a few years back REALLY made me think of john martyn

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Who's John Bonnamossa?

Austin, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

My favorite Martyn performance bar none:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=lE6i_qnoAgo

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 10 July 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link

My favourite live performance ever I think

Number None, Monday, 10 July 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

that guitar tone is extremely metal

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 10 July 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

love it

down that brown path (Spottie), Monday, 10 July 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDMWVr9k5R8

Number None, Sunday, 15 December 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Uncle.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLVM560Fok

tylerw, Friday, 21 February 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

One World got me in the last week of December.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

I love that Lester Bangs story about being on a music biz junket to Jamaica in the mid-70s, and while the other hacks are hanging round the pool smoking weed at the Holiday Inn, he gets a ride into Kingston -- against everyone's advice -- to go record shopping. After an hour or two he goes for a drink and is surprised to see another long-haired, bearded white guy sitting at the corner of the bar, only to find it's John Martyn.

I've prob. misremembered the details, but it just says a lot about what I love about JM; that he was from this folky background, but so hip -- for want of a better word -- to what was going on in jazz, reggae, dub, ambient etc. Not sure who/what would be the equivalent these days.

fetter, Friday, 21 February 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

It says a lot about how he liked a bevvy too.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Friday, 21 February 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

"small hours" (the extended mix on one other world) is where i want to live

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 21 February 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link

What is One Other World? Is it the second disk of the deluxe edition?

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 07:32 (four years ago) link

yes. if you dig one world but haven't heard that bonus stuff, do yourself a favor

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:41 (four years ago) link

I do dig it and have the bonus disc, was wondering if there was more! I’m greedy for this beauty.

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

The deluxe appears to be on Spotify but I don’t see an extended mix of Small Hours, just a live version and instrumental mix:

https://open.spotify.com/album/1G8gcNHZxeRUaqHVFyCADO?si=Y9_cJHbnSOScs9gbJazY1Q

Are you referring to the latter?

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 22 February 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link

I bought the 2004 double disc. I'm blasting the live disc as I type.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 February 2020 15:32 (four years ago) link

I don't have spotify so I can't verify the link, but I think they're talking about what you're calling the instrumental mix.

pet friendly (Euler), Saturday, 22 February 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link

There's an instrumental version of Solid Air on one of the extended editions that is just fantastic. God bless Danny Thompson.

fetter, Sunday, 23 February 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link

Solid Air is so fucking dope.

calzino, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:03 (four years ago) link

I was thumbing through some albums at a gf of my uncle's house decades ago and asked him if Solid Air was any cop and he said something really crap and not very otm like: oh he's a quite interesting nick drake protege..

calzino, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

I happen to have just made a mix called 'Pith & Echo,' the heart of which is "Small Hours," and which throughout focuses on music with a similar combination of total minimalism and maximum emotional impact:

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/musicophilia_00__various_-_pith-echo_1968-2019_cover-a.jpg?w=1024

https://musicophilia.files.wordpress.com/2020/02/musicophilia_00__various_-_pith-echo_1968-2019_cover-b.jpg?w=1024

https://musicophilia.wordpress.com/2020/02/23/pith-and-echo/

Soundslike, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

Sunday's Child is super underrated, if not the all-out masterpiece that One World is. Was not ready for Root Love to go so hard

J. Sam, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link

that mix looks great ian!
and yeah i love sunday's child — "spencer the rover" is one of my fave Martyn moments.

tylerw, Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

I'd be interested in listening to that mix, but it would be easier for my listening set up if it was in two parts (so that the file sizes would be smaller). The same for your Elegy to Mark Hollis and your Evensong mixes.

pet friendly (Euler), Sunday, 23 February 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

They're streamable, too, if that helps. I had assumed file size wasn't a cobstraint for people now, so once the 100MB file size limit on Mediafire went away, I favored sound quality...

Soundslike, Sunday, 23 February 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

Were you aware that The Dawning now seems to be blocked for download? For me at any rate. Haven't come across any problems with any of the others so far.

the grateful dead can dance (anagram), Sunday, 23 February 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

This is a fabulous mix.

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Sunday, 23 February 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

I took the liberty of making a Spotify playlist (hope that's OK, soundslike - shout if not): https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5iFobpwIBwLrpk8DL4bZnj?si=WB0VpHK_TIOWP8vdZMG5eg

The only thing missing is Low.

Sorry for the extended derail!

Ngolo Cantwell (Chinaski), Monday, 24 February 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

I tend to prefer avoiding Spotify because it doesn't pay artists anything. And because I put a lot of effort into the segues (and even the silence length between tracks, when it occurs). I also make sure mixes are streamable on Mixcloud. But obviously it's not my music, so folks can replicate mixes on Spotify if that's preferable.

Soundslike, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Solid Air is some of the most perfect morning music ever

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 13 April 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

I love this dude now.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link

My dad is really into John Martin, but it wasn't until I heard this that I joined him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvFMEiVX_Ck

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 April 2020 12:33 (four years ago) link

I tend to prefer avoiding Spotify because it doesn't pay artists anything

The royalty arrangements are fairer via Mediafire + Mixcloud? (Genuine question; I haven't a clue.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 13 April 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link

The royalty arrangements via Mixcloud are probably similarly slim (i.e. nearly nothing). But my goal is to get people to buy music, which in the past I'd frequently been told was successful. Nowadays, people probably just add things to their Spotify queue for the most part, unfortunately. But all I can do (besides continuing to buy music myself) is try.

Soundslike, Monday, 13 April 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link

Agreed, also I don't like how Spotify switches round the versions of tracks.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 13 April 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link

I see. Thanks!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 13 April 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

Fun fact: the first time I ever heard John Martyn was by streaming BBC Scotland around the turn of the century. I only tuned in because they intended to quote a silly review I wrote in a program about Orange Juice. Then they played something from Solid Air when that was done. I was sufficiently intrigued to buy said album shortly thereafter. I would likely have waited centuries for such a chance hearing on my own side of the world!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 13 April 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link

On the deluxe version of Sunday's Child there's a five-track solo acoustic John Peel session that is amazing.

fetter, Monday, 13 April 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

Great thread, hadn't seen it before. The elusive Beverly turns up on Renbourn's v. enjoyable time junket The Attic Tapes, and thinking again of that finally got me to check this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_Martyn

dow, Monday, 13 April 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link

the electric piano on “dreams by the sea” = most beautiful sound in the universe.

brimstead, Monday, 13 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

Listening to his 2004 (post-amputation) album On the Cobbles and it's got some goodly things. It sounds glorious; there's a reworking of Go Down Easy, which has Nick McCabe making some beautiful noise; Danny Thompson sounds great; The Creator is meandering and needs some thinking through. Could have done without the Weller track.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

This latest Alabaster LePlume (all instrumental, none of the usual "whispered" vocals, as described here) so far has a Martyn-compatible vibe (notes mention "Celtic" etc, some of it seems Adriatic)-mostly reeds & guitar, occasional keys, mbira: https://intlanthem.bandcamp.com/album/to-cy-lee-instrumentals-vol-1

dow, Monday, 13 April 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link


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