brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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https://capx.co/all-that-matters-now-is-stopping-corbyn/

Someone linked me this and I thought it was satire, turns out its from a Centre for Policy Studies offshoot.

challop, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

Lilico and Kamm have been the best of this 'lets get a fucking coup if necessary'. Really wish I could listen in to some old colonels around the table.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

so many gems in that

At that stuff about the IRA, Hezbollah, the Falklands, nuclear weapons, a maximum wage, mass nationalisation, appointing Communists, abolishing the monarchy and empowering the unions was all true and ought to have made him utterly inconceivable as a prime minister, but it didn’t. Young voters didn’t care, or didn’t believe it, or actively wanted it.

||||||||, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

Abi Wilkinson was on Newsnight discussing Corbyn and mentioned the 'absolute boy' thing. The person (and people that I follow around on my Twitter TL) who came up with it has absolutely slated her/Owen Jones and Mae O'Hagan, most of it with good reason although some of it is just an inevitable letting rip on so much frustration with the media coverage.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

"Apparently austerity is over everyone, time to pack it in, Tories have now heard us."

Cool, I'll just inform the missus with MS that the pip appeal is cancelled and DLA restored - Go benevolent Tories!

calzino, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:26 (six years ago) link

No no Austerity hitting Tory targets has been postponed. Hitting Labour voting demographics is still tickity boo

stet, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

"Austerity is over"

laying in the submissive position, letting a gang of trolls piss all over me and saying "Im getting too old for this shit" like a bad ass

— wint (@dril) June 12, 2017

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

timing is...uncanny.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

some amount of energy, humour and (understandable) b*ttern*ss from the twitter left outrider crew
xps

||||||||, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

v understandable - he set out his reasons eloquently enough (and I won't say more because its on twitter and he has locked his account for now), its just weird seeing these things crop up from twitter to TV/Newsnight.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link

Astonished that young voters don't care about Corbyn's attitude to the Falkland's War, it was only 35 years ago after all.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

The Times:

"An additional delay may be caused by the fact that the Queen’s Speech is written on goatskin parchment paper, which requires several days for the ink to dry."

We literally have to wait for ink to dry. In the 21st century.

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 12 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link

Random Goat 4 PM

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 00:15 (six years ago) link

@dustshoveller
I was Director of the @UKParlArchives for 6 years and I can tell you that the Queen's Speech is not made of parchment, goat or otherwise.

nashwan, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

Make Speeches Goat Again

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link

disappointing lack of tories-tearing-themselves-apart tbh

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link

it's probable that their shookness over the possibility of fighting another election right now is keeping them in order, plus the lack of any credible challenger. give them time to start unravelling in parliament, it's very hard to believe she'll see out 5 years.

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 05:47 (six years ago) link

i seem to recall a certain "short-lived cleggeron era"

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 05:58 (six years ago) link

The tabs seem worried by the fact that all SF's MPs are flying to London today. No suggestion that it isn't just for administration business atm but there is a press conference later, I think.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 06:09 (six years ago) link

Cleggeron didn't have to deal with Brexit. The Tories are keeping May in place so she can cop the blame for that impending disaster as well as the election. Then they can get a new broom in.

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 06:22 (six years ago) link

What's the average by-election rate, 2 or 3 a year? That's yr majority right there.

stet, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 06:42 (six years ago) link

anyone who thinks they came up with "the absolute boy" doesn't understand culture or politics tbh

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:20 (six years ago) link

is yvette cooper a big beast

||||||||, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:24 (six years ago) link

all the big beasts are gone, we're on our own now

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:28 (six years ago) link

Haha he has disowned whatever five min joke that was.

He understands politics far more than Owen Jones (this might not be hard)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:30 (six years ago) link

Haha he has disowned whatever five min joke that was

^^^he doesn't understand politics or culture, making his account private is sensible

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:34 (six years ago) link

For now its usually an open account (you have rt-ed this person btw)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link

no fact more damning tbr

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link

We're the big beasts now

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:41 (six years ago) link

full firm beasts

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link

RTs by big firm full beasts are no endorsements ofc

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 07:50 (six years ago) link

The lrb paisley essay is now a free-read, btw.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v04/n06/tom-paulin/paisleys-progress

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link

Tx Jed will look later

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:35 (six years ago) link

was listening to Gove earlier trying to dismiss his erratic voting record on environmental matters as a "misrepresentation" and he has previously claimed to be a "shy green". That would be shy in the same manner that IDS was a shy disability rights advocate.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

Rudd has refused to apologise for pulling figures out of her arse on the tv debate last week when she exaggerated what is spent on disability benefits by £13 billion. It's a good job they didn't use her fucked up math on the re-count as well.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:54 (six years ago) link

just imagine the fuss if she was non-white and maybe called Diane Abbott.

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 08:58 (six years ago) link

no but it's different when diane abbott does it because uh

Turns out Stroud is the scene of the longest-running personal political rivalry in UK politics but no one outside Stroud has ever noticed. pic.twitter.com/E1JgYt1Eei

— Jim Waterson (@jimwaterson) June 12, 2017

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

The person (and people that I follow around on my Twitter TL) who came up with it has absolutely slated her/Owen Jones and Mae O'Hagan, most of it with good reason

RMDE if people are slating Ellie Mae O'Hagan, who has been broadly supportive throughout, actually bothered to talk to Momentum supporters and understand them, and literally went out campaigning for Corbyn in marginal seats, then they aren't able to tolerate the tiniest bit of even constructive/healthy dissent.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:17 (six years ago) link

xp kinda surprised by that, would've assumed everywhere in the Cotswolds was die-hard Tory.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 09:18 (six years ago) link

cheltenham was quite close between the tories and libdem iirc.

Conservative
Alex Chalk
Votes 26,615

Liberal Democrat
Martin Horwood
Votes 24,046

Labour
Keith White
Votes 5,408

koogs, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:05 (six years ago) link

getting a bit worried about Corbyn's performance radicalizing people on my FB timeline guys:

"With Corbynism on the rise fighting back against the excesses of high Toreyism, it is time for the Housemartins to make a comeback. They are needed now in these troubled times, more than ever."

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:07 (six years ago) link

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/anthony-barnett/age-of-corbyn-i-most-powerful-person-in-land

"Two days after the election and writing for millions of readers Mandelson shows us that he is the twentieth century politician. He instructs the ‘moderates’ among Labour MPs to… support Theresa May!"

calzino, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:11 (six years ago) link

The word coming out of Number 10 is that the election result changes nothing about their approach to Brexit negotiations. This doesn't strike me as wise at this particular time.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

The raw numbers are striking in Stroud. 7,000 extra labour votes that weren't there two years ago.

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Also, lololololololol, proposed boundary changes would give, on 2017 results, a majority of NI seats to Sinn Fein http://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/boundaries2018.html

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:17 (six years ago) link

fucking hell, greg knight in the melody maker!

his election jingle keeps popping into my head so it's well-deserved tbh

he discusses arsequake with the stud brothers iirc

mark s, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 10:24 (six years ago) link


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