Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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they are feebs. that is why their faith isn't weakened. they are literal wastemen.

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

they are genuinely stupid people who think they are clever because they are good at videogames and because they are unpopular in the real world.

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link

are you...ilx subtweeting me?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 12 June 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

haha no!

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

it is possible to be all those things and not be an asshole imo

Who's puttin' sponge in the zings I once zung (stevie), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

that's unfair, there are plenty of popular, successful people having children who are horrible people

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 June 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Nothing particularly new here, but it's good that Polygon continues to call this stuff out, and Sarkeesian is OTM as usual

https://www.polygon.com/features/2017/6/27/15880582/anita-sarkeesian-garbage-human-vidcon-interview

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

It's very depressing to look back on the original question and realize the answer is "It isn't; racism and sexism is just as acceptable in all of our media, videogame people are just louder about it."

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link

agreed

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:37 (six years ago) link

I like that their arguments against what she's said still amount to "nuh uh, she's wrong. and she was mean to me!"

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

Carl Benjamin is a British YouTube personality in his late 30s. He has spoken vituperatively, many times over many years, about Sarkeesian and her work. Some of his videos are thumbnailed with ludicrously Photoshopped imagery of Sarkeesian. At the time of writing, his Twitter page is bannered with a picture of Sarkeesian.

Good god these cretins.

Treeship, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

Benjamin is an atheist.[19] He self-identifies politically as centre-left and a classical liberal.[4][20] He has opposed movements that purport to defeat online misogyny, such as the British group 'Reclaim the Internet', which he called "social communism".[3][21]

Benjamin has said that the working class could be harmed by immigration and neo-liberal policies from both the left and right. Benjamin was a vocal supporter of Brexit[22] and described Donald Trump as the "lesser of two evils" compared to Hillary Clinton. Prior to the primary election of Clinton as the United States Democratic Party candidate, Benjamin stated he would have preferred Bernie Sanders over Clinton or Trump.[23] Along with Trump, Benjamin has endorsed other right wing politicians such as Marine Le Pen.[24]

Fuck this chode. He should self-identify as a chode.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

I feel like the idea these dudes have no natural positions and just claim the opposite position of whatever their targets believe is a little overblown, but imo it's more true than false

the people individually targeting Sarkeesian like this dude really seem like the kids on a playground who run up and punch a girl on the arm because they want attention, but have no idea why or how to do so positively

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

perhaps the most depressing part is where it turns out he makes $60K/year doing this.

﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

oh god, the article didn't mention his idiotic online handle (thankfully) and I realized who he is

yeah this guy is not very bright

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

Yeah me too - I am surprised he stayed anonymous so long when clearly he wants to be admired - presumably

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

bah - presumably he waited until he could summon legions on anyone who bothered him in real life.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

the fact that two of these moldy diaper versions of human beings make 8k a fucking month via patreon to keep doing this crap makes me sick

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

the phrase is "diaper drinkers" TM whiney

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

I think I heard it from j4son from Alternative Press originally

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 29 June 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

hey cool, it turns out that n1ck r0bins@n (polygon video comedy dude/generator of much content i've loved) is very likely a total creep. weirdly the reaction online is "i sure hope gr1ff1n (his partner on many polygon comedy things) is ok" (who is a dude). lol i guess at least believing reports & showing concern for secondary victims is a step up from not believing at all, but ok.

anyway, fuck everything

flippy bard (Will M.), Friday, 4 August 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

Seconded

El Tomboto, Friday, 4 August 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

ugh

ciderpress, Friday, 4 August 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

killing some time here and I searched for what that's about and was kind of pleasantly surprised by how many people were actually saying "hey, women don't have to post 'proof' he was a creep to women, if women say that and are corroborating each others stories, then believe women"

I mean, post you-know-what, there's still a contingent of idiots who are going to rip apart any screenshots of interactions, say whatever was said wasn't that bad or is fake, and attack anyone posting about it. So wanting people to step forward with screenshots or w/e is basically asking people to make themselves targets. And it looks like people are starting to understand that

mh, Friday, 4 August 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

folks the gamers are at it again pic.twitter.com/Ft1t13Iw4L

— baҳ 📚 (@bax_books) September 7, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 September 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link

tbf gamers never really stopped this bullshit but hard lol that it's south park of all things that's triggered them this time

Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 September 2017 13:48 (six years ago) link

Were the previous 36 DangerGamers such irredeemable choads?

it's a fair bet

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 September 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

I'm sure there'll be some good-natured antisemitism in the game to make up for it

a big sausage-handed small-eared guy (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 September 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

The genre depicts a tension between the apparently still and bland social surface in Scandinavia and the murder, misogyny, rape, and racism it depicts as lying underneath.

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link

seriously, how fuckin' hard is it to not say racist things?

Cyndi Larper (stevie), Monday, 11 September 2017 08:09 (six years ago) link

i imagine it's a good deal more difficult if you're, y'know, a massive racist

Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 08:32 (six years ago) link

seems about right

http://i.imgur.com/n4kODRx.png

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link

oh ok, never mind then

The world's highest-paid YouTube star, PewDiePie, has used the "n-word" during an online broadcast.

The 27-year-old Swede - real name Felix Kjellberg - could be heard using the racial slur while he was playing a video game during a live streaming.

After using the term he appeared to recognise his error, saying: "I don't mean that in a bad way."

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 12:28 (six years ago) link

The threads on reddit are enlightening/horrifying. My favourite apologetic is 'you could say the same thing about f(gayslur) and no one complains about that'.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Monday, 11 September 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link

That's great actually (XPs to BG's pic)

Cyndi Larper (stevie), Monday, 11 September 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

The immense fame of these vlogger never ceases to amaze me.

Jeff, Monday, 11 September 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

I have never seen or heard anything this dude's done until I watched some "adults react to PewDiePie" compilation and... yeah, this guy is horrible.

I mean, the main appeal seems to be "this guy sounds like a really dumb south park character" combined with "wow I'm a teen and he's saying all this shit my mom told me is bad, how edgy"

like if you think swearing and making screaming noises or running around in a game saying how "I rape this! I rape that!" is entertaining, I'm sure he's the fuckin' nobel prize winner of game streamers

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 14:36 (six years ago) link

lmao "but I wish it did"

frogbs, Monday, 11 September 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

I'm sure he's the fuckin' nobel prize winner of game streamers

more like the lottery winner of game streamers rly in that he's a millionaire despite having (afaict) very little going on to differentiate him from innumerable other screaming youtube tools

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 14:46 (six years ago) link

if there's anything we can learn from twitch it's that being a public asshole is the easiest way to reach the gaming demographic

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

pretty much all the top gaming streams are either the few most skilled players at whichever game, or loud rude dudes

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

this guy sounds like a really dumb south park character

Well...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehash_(South_Park)

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Monday, 11 September 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

you know, there were moments in there I was ok with at the time, but I'm pretty good with deleting the entire run of south park from history

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link

kinda hard not to see south park as playing some role in the 4channing of culture, yeah

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

there's been plenty of thinkpieces tying shitty gamer attitudes to kids growing up watching South Park. it's fairly otm I think

ciderpress, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

10 year-olds just don't understand that Cartman's supposed to be the bad guy

Cheds Baker (Noodle Vague), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

more of a problem that 30 year-olds just don't understand that Cartman's supposed to be the bad guy, i think

here's how **takes sip of duck urine** economics works (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 11 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

reminds me of a conversation I had with my mom not long ago

"I didn't even let you kids watch South Park!"
"Mom, South Park didn't come out until I was in my last year of high school. You didn't let us watch The Simpsons for the first few years it was on"
"Did I let you watch South Park?"
"It was on Comedy Central and you didn't have cable television until I moved out, so I guess not"

mh, Monday, 11 September 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link


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