Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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That Middle East Eye piece begins to make an interesting parallel with the graun and new labour, but then doesn't really go anywhere with it.

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 12 June 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link

is that the david hearst piece? i need to reread that (the first time i read it i was mainly being startled that i'd never spotted he signs himself "david hearst" and "david hirst" abt equally often, which is unusual in such a high-profile writer: i shd perhaps focus on less trivial aspects)

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link

There's a David Hirst and a David Hearst, no?

Alba, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link

ok lol yes they are different now that i've found a photo of each of them

but google is disinclined to separate them

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

Is Google worse than it used to be?

Alba, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:35 (six years ago) link

Is mark s worse than it used to be?

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 11:39 (six years ago) link

is the 'is the guardian worse than it used to be?' thread worse than it used to be when everyone jumps on the 'is x worse than it used to be?' bandwagon?

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 11:43 (six years ago) link

Yes

El Tomboto, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

i am better than i used to be: be the change i indicate

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

Mirror stocks up on this because they'll likely to pay to use mirror presses, so seems like no they can't continue to use theirs.

Barclays analysts on impact for Trinity Mirror (shares up 2%). pic.twitter.com/Hb20plY5IA

— Chris Williams (@cg_williams) June 12, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 12 June 2017 14:10 (six years ago) link

Today we’re announcing a significant change to the way you experience the Guardian in print: from early 2018 we will move the Guardian and The Observer to tabloid formats.

Over the past six months, we’ve been thinking hard about how we can continue to deliver great journalism to readers through our print editions. At the same time, we’ve also been examining every cost across our organisation, as part of a three-year plan to make the Guardian financially sustainable.

The introduction of the Berliner format in 2005 was a historic moment for the Guardian, and we won award after award for our world-class design and innovation, including world’s best-designed newspaper twice in three years. It is a beautiful format.

We believe there will be a market for quality print journalism for years to come, but declining circulations mean that printing the Berliner is becoming increasingly expensive. Moving to a tabloid format will allow us to be far more flexible in responding to changing print demand. It will allow us to save millions of pounds each year, helping us to become financially sustainable so that we can keep investing in the most important thing: Guardian journalism.

This plan is the outcome of careful consideration, reader research and planning. Early research with some of our most loyal readers has been positive. We have spoken to print readers who have told us clearly that it is the great journalism, photography, graphics and design that they value, not the shape and size of the newspaper. We are going to create a tabloid Guardian and a tabloid Observer that are bold, striking and beautiful. Input from our readers, members and subscribers will be crucial.

The Guardian has signed a contract with Trinity Mirror, who will take over printing and distribution of our newspapers in the new format. If you are a print subscriber, your subscription service will continue as usual.

More people than ever before are reading and supporting the Guardian’s journalism. Today’s announcement further cements our commitment to produce the Guardian and The Observer in print for the foreseeable future – but there’s no doubt that this is a significant moment in our history. The print industry continues to evolve, and we must keep evolving with it.

Katharine Viner, editor-in-chief, Guardian News & Media
David Pemsel, chief executive, Guardian Media Group

sktsh, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

It's a shame, but I never, if ever, buy the print version anymore.

Looking forward to seeing the design changes though.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 10:45 (six years ago) link

Gibson, now editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed UK, declined to comment for this story

lol

stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

Covering America for the world, including Americans.

good slogan but could be clarified a little further and more commas would help. how about "A British paper, in America, covering America, for the world, including Americans, and of course British people, welcome to Guardian America - home of the Guardian in the USA."

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

also available in Australian

André Ryu (Neil S), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

Oh, it’s The Guardian. I see. pic.twitter.com/mOfnlEOyAb

— SimonNRicketts (@SimonNRicketts) June 21, 2017

Full-page Leader from the Mail railing against the Guardian for being the REAL fascists

stet, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:30 (six years ago) link

Just fucking ridiculous. And I "look forward" to having to hear this regurgitated at the next family sunday lunch.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:07 (six years ago) link

I just hope this is the death throes of a malignant force in UK culture realising its days are sorely numbered.

Shanty Brunch (stevie), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

I know you are but what am I.

cajunsunday, Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link

that cartoon sounds terrible, poor form to get all butthurt over it

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:16 (six years ago) link

The Mail going merrily down the alt-right route I see.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:23 (six years ago) link

The Daily Mail or the Mail Online?

Alba, Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:37 (six years ago) link

"The Mail Online - a totally separate entity that has its own publisher" pic.twitter.com/GzHFWfLqj4

— Dean Burnett (@garwboy) June 22, 2017

André Ryu (Neil S), Thursday, 22 June 2017 09:44 (six years ago) link

deano rehabilitated in nakhers' absence

imago, Thursday, 22 June 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

Street artist Sabo shot to fame during the 2016 US election with his politically incorrect approach.

Nope, never heard of him until this article.

nashwan, Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jun/22/a-hot-summer-night-in-london-photo-essay

nice photos but jesus christ @ this trite piece and its unearned sentimentality.

i just ranted about it on twitter, that's my mental exercise for the evening:

Pretty much all the worst sins of writing are in this piece: "A hot summer night in London – photo essay" https://t.co/jGiPxzkPPP

— Ronan Fitzgerald (@rmkf) June 22, 2017

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

The photos are worth the while tbh. But the writing is dire, I agree.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

should have just gone with photos, their quality exposes the poor writing even further.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

Absolutely. They do not need dim 'bylines' by an overly enthusiastic writer thinking he/she's D.H. Lawrence.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

I was going to ignore it after yr tweet because have no time for school writing but the pictures are def worth it

stet, Thursday, 22 June 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

Laura Barton has long been the worst. Excruciating always.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 22 June 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

There's something so crass about it that annoys me more than is worth the effort. The default need to find false pathos, the terrible mixture of sadness and joy, neither feeling real or distinct from each other. The patronising attitude towards the poor.

The use of text to accompany the photos is insulting enough in itself, but the text is horrendous. I'm sure I've seen these "the streets by night" assignments before and all they do is show how much every project needs a top line.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 June 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

Who on earth are these ubiquitous btl posters? Thegreatronraffterty, the Thunderbirds avatar guy, several others who are first to comment? I don't understand how they can live their lives and post and post and post. I mean it's not easy to be the first commenter so I just do t understand the logistics never mind the mentality.

This has probably already been asked and answered.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link

I mean, as an addicted person it makes me feel a wee bit better to see others' posts. It's the logistics of it that I don't understand.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

There was an article yesterday on what books to bring to Glastonbury. Heh I wonder has the writer even been to a music festival, you're not going to get much reading done

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/series/brexit-shorts

hey garda whats ur fave

r|t|c, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

Jesus dunno if I can watch these...

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link

48% nation lol

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 30 June 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link

A L Kennedy's is genuinely great, I think. The language is wonderful. There's something almost Shakespearean about it. And Scott Reid is terrific, IMO.

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/ng-interactive/2017/jun/19/brexit-shorts-permanent-sunshine-al-kennedy-scott-reid-video

Heavy Doors (jed_), Saturday, 1 July 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/15/living-in-a-caravan-mobile-homes-interiors-small-spaces

In favour, I'm massively in favour of people exploring alternative living spaces, but the tone of this article...

One day in early 2016, Ashim spotted a contract as a locum psychiatrist in a hospital in Bermuda. We let out our house, arrived in April, and for six months I drank a lot of rum swizzle, and Ashim had one of the world’s most beautiful commutes. It got us thinking: there is a shortage of senior psychiatrists everywhere, and locum jobs pop up in the most interesting places. ]’m turning my PhD (on the influence of sculpture on contemporary British ceramics – a guaranteed conversation-stopper) into a book, so can work anywhere. We could live a rich life, in lots of different places. And we decided to do it in a caravan.

We leave Cork in August, and after a trip in the van to France and Spain, we are planning to head to New Zealand for the winter. We will have to abandon our van on Ashim’s sister’s drive, but we’re not done with tiny homes. We are learning to sail and are hoping to live on a boat for our next posting. After our 17ft van, we won’t know what to do with the space.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 16 July 2017 09:53 (six years ago) link

LOL fuckin' bawbag.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

has there ever been anyone who did this open letter to my younger self thing without seeming like a complete twat?

calzino, Saturday, 22 July 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

Mary Bell

In Search of the Turricle's Navel (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

Did she make a killing with the sale of her London house? Oops, getting her mixed with a smug graun hack!

calzino, Saturday, 22 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

Hitler

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Saturday, 22 July 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link

'When good TV goes bad: how Game of Thrones became a throng of dire old vice'

that's appalling

kinder, Monday, 24 July 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

Not a complaint by any means but interesting to see a Bill-Gates-sponsored article attacking a Bill-Gates-sponsored chain of schools:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/aug/03/uk-urged-to-stop-funding-ineffective-and-unsustainable-bridge-academies

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 4 August 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link


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