brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

Time for a new franchise

lord buckethead grows in my estimation daily

that'll be the helmet

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHDxs2WsAAhWJF.jpg:large

wow

Lots of chat from the FT and others this morning about a muddling of what is meant by "soft" Brexit. I, and I think a lot of people, took it to mean "leaving the EU but not the EEA, keeping single market access and so on". Whereas it is suspected that what both Tories and Corbyn/McDonnell mean by it is "not the WTO option -- eg no brutal "no deal" option but still leaving SM/FoM".

Let's be honest I imagine there is only every going to be 'hard Brexit' and 'fucking hard Brexit', right?

keeping the pound low against the euro will do more for discouraging internal immigration than any set of statutes that can be devised imo

the weekend after brexit i was in a minicab and the dude driving told me that the economics of it don't work for him anymore because the whole idea was to make money to send back home, and now that money doesn't go very far

i realize this is the quintessential lolFriedman methodology of analyzing major global trends but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

'i had that tracer hand in the back of my cab the other day, i offered him a stinging critique of macroeconomics through the prism of my lived experience'

from ilx's favourite politics editor tom newton cunt:

Will Theresa May have to soften her Brexit terms? LBJ's rule, the numbers are all. Our Commons tally today; pic.twitter.com/sqlI6QQi4y

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) June 12, 2017

wonder what rupert thinks of that

Will Theresa May have to soften her Brexit terms? LBJ's rule, the numbers are all. Our Commons tally today; pic.twitter.com/sqlI6QQi4y

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) June 12, 2017

who's the 5 Labour?

i'd like to know myself but the sun's website is so terrible i can't actually find the story i presume this graphic is part of

Kate Hoey?

Graham Stringer
Kelvin Hopkins
Roger Godsiff
+1

real big hitters

real big shitters more like amirite

*shrug* tbh I understand the urge to troll the moaniest of the remoaners

All of them not too far off taking an eternal nap as well.

+1 is corbs surely, his masters in the communist league will not brook error on this

I was gonna postulate Corbs as the Fifth Man, of course

Explicitly pro-Leave Labour MPs:

Ronnie Campbell - Blyth Valley
John Cryer - Leyton and Wanstead
Frank Field - Birkenhead
Roger Godsiff - Birmingham Hall Green
Kate Hoey - Vauxhall
Kelvin Hopkins - Luton North
John Mann - Bassetlaw
Dennis Skinner - Bolsover
Graham Stringer - Blackley and Broughton
Gisela Stuart - Birmingham Edgbaston

Just realised that if May fails to make it through the rest of the month then she has the ignominy of failing to last even as long as Alec Douglas-Home, who pretty much no one remembers.

who?

Home is memorable for a number of reasons, including the fact that he held a cabinet post after his Prime Ministership iirc - Foreign Sec or Home Sec under Heath, early 70s?

also the last member of the Lords to be PM apparently

He's in a Monty Python sketch too. Gisela Stuart isn't an MP anymore, she stepped down at the last election, her evil work done.

and he either spelt or pronounced his name funny depending on yr perspective

also he feels like the last leader of the Tories who you could've plausibly described as a grandee before all the arrivistes took over

reposting form the real england thread, where i (correctly but unhelpfully) first parked it:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/12/no-10-refuses-to-confirm-queens-speech-will-go-ahead-next-monday

"Any delay in the Queen’s speech would be difficult to accommodate, given the monarch is scheduled to attend Royal Ascot from next Tuesday until the end of next week."

in fact I gotta say the mummified husk of Alec Douglas-Home wd make an excellent unity candidate for the post-May leadership contest

I remember a Spitting Image puppet of Home in an ex-PMs nursing home sketch.

Or, failing that, Jacob Rees-Mogg. (xp)

I'm thinking of putting money on David Davis to be the next leader of the Conservative, he is kind of their Corbyn, in a lot of ways.

i for one would love a prime minister who still has a nanny xp

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the I Can't Believe It's Not Butter of long-deceased Tory bigwigs

Don't they all blame Davis for persuading May to call the election in the first place?

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTLER

jacob rees-mogg, the real-life tommen baratheon

had to google him

I could see DD being next leader. He probably could carry off "strong and stable" as well - as he looks like he might have even committed cold-blooded murder with his own bare hands before.

pop quiz, hotshot: was the below picture taken in the 1930s, 1940s, or 1950s

http://www.chewvalleygazette.co.uk/images/news/2016/jacob-rees-mogg-new-baby.jpg

MP for North East Somerset Jacob Rees Mogg, has announced the birth of his fifth child, Alfred Wulfric Leyson Pius.

Alfred was born on Monday 22nd February, just before 9am.

A brother to Peter, Mary, Thomas and Anselm and a fourth son to Jacob and his wife Helena.

Mr Rees-Mogg’s other children have been equally blessed with meaningful names. Eldest son Thomas is Thomas Wentworth Somerset Dunstan, whilst Peter is Peter Theodore Alphege, and the couple’s youngest son is Anselm Charles Fitzwilliam. Many of the children’s names including baby Alfred’s come from saints.

Thomas’ Dunstan derives from Dunstan, the Abbot of Glastonbury Abbey who became Archibishop of Canterbury and is accredited with restoring monastic life in England in the 10th Century.

Peter’s Alphege is homage to the 10th Century St.Alphege who become the elected abbot of Bath,

Whilst Anselm is Anselm of Bec a Benedictine monk one of the most prominent figures of the monastic era, and a founding father of Scholasticism.

According to Mr Rees Mogg the inspiration of newest addition to the Rees-Mogg dynasty are:

Alfred the Great

Wulfric of Haselbury, a saint.

Leyson, after Louis Leyson Rees Mogg who died at Gallipoli.

Pius, Pope Pius IX.

Even older Tories joke about Mogg being the "minister for the 1800's".

he's looked exactly the same his entire life, so i'm not willing to rule out entirely that he may be immortal and was actually a minister in the 1880s

pop quiz, hotshot: was the below picture taken in the 1930s, 1940s, or 1950s

God, I saw that thing the other day and was honestly baffled at the idea it was an actual recent shot.

have the DUP seen this picture (and that list of names)? more reasons the queen's speech got delayed IMO

Was convinced Wulfric was a girl's name.

Too many left footers in yer party, so there is (xp)

I suppose that retrospective pardon for Rangers FC might be a sticking point too.

amazed it's taken this long for a rangers joke to pop up itt tbh

True, it's such a life or death issue for so many DUP voters.