Chapman, Jansen, and Kimbrel: Numbers in a Vacuum?

I don't foresee any Cy Youngs in the near future for this group. Where have you gone Steve Bedrosian and Mark Davis, Jon Heyman turns his lonely eyes to you...

none of these guys is likely to have a rivera-like career imo

I can envision any one of them having a regular-season career that matches (possibly even exceeds) Mariano's rate stats, with somewhere between (if anybody cares) 400-500 saves. Where no one's going to come even close is his postseason record.

directly relevant to this thread's interests:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kenley-jansen-is-mariano-rivera-2-0/

and further

http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/80554/kenley-jansen-is-breaking-records-and-advanced-stats

I don't foresee any Cy Youngs in the near future for this group. Where have you gone Steve Bedrosian and Mark Davis, Jon Heyman turns his lonely eyes to you...

― clemenza, Monday, June 12, 2017 1:32 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a cy young for any of these dudes would require the cream of the starting pitching crop in a season being a group of guys with 16-10 type seasons with ERAs around 3, while some reliever goes off for 50 saves and an ERA around 1.50, while also having some kind of intangible. like a super-dirty cap.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kenley-jansen-is-too-busy-helping-the-dodgers-win-to-get-saves/

Don't know if the goose egg has a future, or if it's headed to the graveyard with game-winning RBIs.

even a dinosaur like Keith Hernandez said "game-winning RBIs" were a crock

never heard of this goose egg

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/goose-egg-new-save-stat-relief-pitchers/

"clutch, scoreless relief innings"

Kimbrel is a steaming pile of dogshittle. TF is he doing out there closing an AllStar game.

notching an extremely fraught save, steve shasta

14 saves and a 3.41 ERA (which is kinda like having a 6.00 ERA as a starter)--no idea why he's there either.