brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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Can someone put this into pastebin or some such for me:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v04/n06/tom-paulin/paisleys-progress

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 11 June 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

How David Gauke voted on Welfare and Benefits #
Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")

Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices

Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability

Consistently voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support

Almost always voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits

Consistently voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed

I don't think many people could be much more grotesque and vacuous than Damien Green, but Gauke will make another fine work and pensions secretary and have a good try.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

Hunt is just never getting reshuffled huh

nashwan, Sunday, 11 June 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

xxp it's not firewalled.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:38 (six years ago) link

It is, for me.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

It's quite a substantial excerpt, admittedly.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

sometimes the paywall is activated by your use of ad-blockers or by how many recent "freebies" are on your cookies from a particular site.

calzino, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

Oh yeah me too, sorry.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 11 June 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

"The DUP, which backed the proposal for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union, spent heavily during the campaign, including £282,000 (€325,000) on a newspaper advertisement and £32,750 (€37,500) with a data-analysis company linked to Donald Trump. It spent only about £10,000 in Northern Ireland."

!!!

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 12 June 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

Amazing details in there.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 12 June 2017 01:52 (six years ago) link

I was to quote and paste but there's too much to quote.

Heavy Doors (jed_), Monday, 12 June 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link

Cynical thought for the morning: those older Tory voters have gotten a Tory government, but with the pension triple lock retained, and no dementia tax.

toby, Monday, 12 June 2017 06:28 (six years ago) link

The greatest thing you'll see today...pic.twitter.com/q7XvNzT6Q0

— Angry Salmond (@AngrySalmond) June 10, 2017

syzygy stardust (suzy), Monday, 12 June 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link

Was pleased to learn that the man behind Lord Buckethead used to be the head of classic video nasty label Vipco, who brought us Driller Killer, Zombie Flesheaters etc, back in the day.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Monday, 12 June 2017 08:26 (six years ago) link

Time for a new franchise

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 08:46 (six years ago) link

lord buckethead grows in my estimation daily

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:22 (six years ago) link

that'll be the helmet

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCHDxs2WsAAhWJF.jpg:large

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

wow

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:27 (six years ago) link

Lots of chat from the FT and others this morning about a muddling of what is meant by "soft" Brexit. I, and I think a lot of people, took it to mean "leaving the EU but not the EEA, keeping single market access and so on". Whereas it is suspected that what both Tories and Corbyn/McDonnell mean by it is "not the WTO option -- eg no brutal "no deal" option but still leaving SM/FoM".

stet, Monday, 12 June 2017 09:49 (six years ago) link

Let's be honest I imagine there is only every going to be 'hard Brexit' and 'fucking hard Brexit', right?

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 12 June 2017 09:57 (six years ago) link

keeping the pound low against the euro will do more for discouraging internal immigration than any set of statutes that can be devised imo

the weekend after brexit i was in a minicab and the dude driving told me that the economics of it don't work for him anymore because the whole idea was to make money to send back home, and now that money doesn't go very far

i realize this is the quintessential lolFriedman methodology of analyzing major global trends but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 June 2017 09:59 (six years ago) link

'i had that tracer hand in the back of my cab the other day, i offered him a stinging critique of macroeconomics through the prism of my lived experience'

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 10:01 (six years ago) link

from ilx's favourite politics editor tom newton cunt:

Will Theresa May have to soften her Brexit terms? LBJ's rule, the numbers are all. Our Commons tally today; pic.twitter.com/sqlI6QQi4y

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) June 12, 2017

wonder what rupert thinks of that

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 12 June 2017 11:40 (six years ago) link

Will Theresa May have to soften her Brexit terms? LBJ's rule, the numbers are all. Our Commons tally today; pic.twitter.com/sqlI6QQi4y

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) June 12, 2017

stet, Monday, 12 June 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

who's the 5 Labour?

There's got to be a Corbyn after (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:12 (six years ago) link

i'd like to know myself but the sun's website is so terrible i can't actually find the story i presume this graphic is part of

Kate Hoey?

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

Graham Stringer
Kelvin Hopkins
Roger Godsiff
+1

real big hitters

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:24 (six years ago) link

real big shitters more like amirite

*shrug* tbh I understand the urge to troll the moaniest of the remoaners

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:29 (six years ago) link

All of them not too far off taking an eternal nap as well.

calzino, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

+1 is corbs surely, his masters in the communist league will not brook error on this

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

I was gonna postulate Corbs as the Fifth Man, of course

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link

Explicitly pro-Leave Labour MPs:

Ronnie Campbell - Blyth Valley
John Cryer - Leyton and Wanstead
Frank Field - Birkenhead
Roger Godsiff - Birmingham Hall Green
Kate Hoey - Vauxhall
Kelvin Hopkins - Luton North
John Mann - Bassetlaw
Dennis Skinner - Bolsover
Graham Stringer - Blackley and Broughton
Gisela Stuart - Birmingham Edgbaston

Just realised that if May fails to make it through the rest of the month then she has the ignominy of failing to last even as long as Alec Douglas-Home, who pretty much no one remembers.

Matt DC, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

Home is memorable for a number of reasons, including the fact that he held a cabinet post after his Prime Ministership iirc - Foreign Sec or Home Sec under Heath, early 70s?

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link

also the last member of the Lords to be PM apparently

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link

He's in a Monty Python sketch too. Gisela Stuart isn't an MP anymore, she stepped down at the last election, her evil work done.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link

and he either spelt or pronounced his name funny depending on yr perspective

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

also he feels like the last leader of the Tories who you could've plausibly described as a grandee before all the arrivistes took over

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

reposting form the real england thread, where i (correctly but unhelpfully) first parked it:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/12/no-10-refuses-to-confirm-queens-speech-will-go-ahead-next-monday

"Any delay in the Queen’s speech would be difficult to accommodate, given the monarch is scheduled to attend Royal Ascot from next Tuesday until the end of next week."

mark s, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

in fact I gotta say the mummified husk of Alec Douglas-Home wd make an excellent unity candidate for the post-May leadership contest

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link

I remember a Spitting Image puppet of Home in an ex-PMs nursing home sketch.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:55 (six years ago) link

Or, failing that, Jacob Rees-Mogg. (xp)

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:56 (six years ago) link

I'm thinking of putting money on David Davis to be the next leader of the Conservative, he is kind of their Corbyn, in a lot of ways.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

i for one would love a prime minister who still has a nanny xp

Jacob Rees-Mogg, the I Can't Believe It's Not Butter of long-deceased Tory bigwigs

pray for BoJo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 June 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

Don't they all blame Davis for persuading May to call the election in the first place?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 June 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link


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