I Never MENA Hurt You; I Never MENA Make You Cry 2017 (Middle East, North Africa, and Other Geopolitical Hotspots)

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/06/world/middleeast/adnan-khashoggi-dead-saudi-arms-trader.html?smid=tw-share

"In his later years, Mr. Khashoggi lived well but in much-reduced circumstances. He flew on commercial jets, fended off creditors and dismissed his bodyguard, a Korean martial arts expert known as Mr. Kill."

mark s, Thursday, 8 June 2017 08:35 (six years ago) link

“What did I do wrong? Nothing,” he said toward the end of his life. “I behaved unethically, for ethical reasons.”

curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 June 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

same

mark s, Thursday, 8 June 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

converse. I behave ethically, but in regretable cases for non-ethical reasons. The first time I became a vegetarian it was to get into a vegetarian's pants, etc.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Friday, 9 June 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

Saif Gaddafi has just been released from prison!

http://news.sky.com/story/gaddafis-son-saif-al-islam-is-released-from-prison-in-libya-10911577

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Saturday, 10 June 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

A thoughtful read, I felt:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/05/the-arab-world-has-never-recovered-from-the-loss-of-1967/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 June 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

learned a lot from that. I liked this piece about how Israel never recovered from the victory: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/04/i-fought-for-a-better-israel-than-this-215222

lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Monday, 12 June 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

As an addendum, I don't think the western view of the Arab world has ever recovered from the Yom Kippur War in 73. Them catching Israel unaware, then failing to win anyway, then punishing the west for their own failure through the oil embargo. I don't mean to say anti-arab racism is due to that, but geopolitically, I don't they've been treated seriously since.

Frederik B, Monday, 12 June 2017 17:47 (six years ago) link

Pinch of salt etc but Islamic State leader Baghdadi 'may have been killed by Russia'.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 16 June 2017 07:54 (six years ago) link

The MOD statement is less definitive in Russian than in English. It says they are still checking, while the Sputnik report suggests it has been checked.

Syria also claims they killed him last week fwiw so at least one of them is wrong.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 16 June 2017 08:53 (six years ago) link

any next manager odds yet? I heard Sherwood hasn't ruled himself out.

calzino, Friday, 16 June 2017 09:29 (six years ago) link

The US has just released a statement confirming it shot down a Syrian MiG in Syrian airspace - the first time this has ever been done, iirc. The Americans say it was attacking pro-US rebels, the Syrians seem to be claiming it was taking part in an operation to recapture a town from ISIS.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Sunday, 18 June 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link

Syrian MiGs should trail banners identifying whether they are attacking ISIS, Syrian civilians, US-friendly Kurds or someone else. They could be color coded for easy deciphering by pilots of US fighter jets.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 18 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Also of interest: because of the Tehran attacks, Iran's RG supposedly launched into an attack on IS in Syria. link. If the Tehran attack leads to Iran entering the fight against ISIS proper, that's an interesting development, though for now I'd say it's just hardmanning, "the response the people demand", and doubt they will keep it up. But if Iran would choose to do so, to keep fighting IS, in Syria, it would probably make it harder on TrumpUSA to denounce them. They'd be on the same side in this.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 18 June 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

Why do you think IS attacked Tehran? Iran funds the Kata'ib Hezbollah ("Hezbollah Brigades") and Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq ("League of the Righteous") that are fighting against IS in both Iraq and Syria.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Sunday, 18 June 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link

Russia Threatens to Target U.S. Warplanes Over Syria

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 19 June 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

Trump's really taken the Saudi line, hook and sinker. Wasn't so long ago that his dank supporters were arguing that HRC was the one hellbent on WW3.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:11 (six years ago) link

Yeah, i think that was evident in the bungling of the Qatar situation as well.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 19 June 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

Test

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link

Extraordinary statement from Tillerson calling KSA and other out on Qatar.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

.@statedeptspox Nauert provides a readout of Secretary Tillerson's engagement on #Qatar, regional situation pic.twitter.com/vo2FJ86BZg

— Department of State (@StateDept) June 20, 2017

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

A number of Exxon-Mobil's biggest investments over the past decade have been in Qatar's LNG plants.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

KSA has told Qatar to shut al-Jazeera, sever all diplomatic ties with Iran and close their military base in Turkey.

Will be worth watching Tillerson's reaction.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 23 June 2017 08:47 (six years ago) link

The full, bonkers, list of demands here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/23/close-al-jazeera-saudi-arabia-issues-qatar-with-13-demands-to-end-blockade

Internal decision-making was presumably held up by the change in KSA's power structure but they're now in a position to try to turn the screw.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 23 June 2017 09:41 (six years ago) link

The long, impossible to meet list of demands certainly worked out when Austro-Hungary tried it.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Sunday, 25 June 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure what would qualify as a crisis in Syria, but this seems like a volatile situation: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40413563 Hopefully it will be enough to warn Assad off and that will be it.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link

Contra thread title:

AP: In Yemen's secret prisons, UAE tortures and US interrogates

Hundreds of men swept up in the hunt for al-Qaida militants have disappeared into a secret network of prisons in southern Yemen where abuse is routine and torture extreme — including the “grill,” in which the victim is tied to a spit like a roast and spun in a circle of fire, an Associated Press investigation has found.

Senior American defense officials acknowledged Wednesday that U.S. forces have been involved in interrogations of detainees in Yemen but denied any participation in or knowledge of human rights abuses. Interrogating detainees who have been abused could violate international law, which prohibits complicity in torture.

it's just locker room treason (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

Israel approves construction of 800 new homes in east Jerusalem, where Palestinians hoped to establish capital. https://t.co/c4kwukiYN4

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 5, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

There was this as well: Israel seizes solar panels donated to Palestinians by Dutch government. Israel doesn't give a single fuck.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 22:13 (six years ago) link

Sky News Arabia to broadcast documentary 'Qatar...The Road to Manhattan' on Wednesday https://t.co/PjicnWFzy6 pic.twitter.com/MHPZV6e98L

— Gulf News (@gulf_news) July 24, 2017

Seems legit.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 24 July 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

This whole Qatar thing has been pulled off quite ineptly, hasn't it?

Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

something to keep an eye on

Abbas ordered heads of Tanzim Fatah to lead demonstrations on Friday.Tanzim was key to escalation in 2nd intifiada

— avi issacharoff (@issacharoff) July 26, 2017

Mordy, Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

Didn't expect to see Israel back down on the metal detectors at the Temple Mount.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 26 July 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

A surprise to me too.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:41 (six years ago) link

The UAE, in the meantime, realizing that depriving its sports-crazed citizens of televised international soccer games was a dangerous step too far, quietly decided to allow BeIN, the Aljazeera-owned worldwide sports channel, an exemption from the general embargo on the parent company.

http://time.com/4872857/saudi-arabia-qatar-patrick-theros/

curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 July 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Once again the whole world conspires against Kurdistan. Hey thanks guys for defeating IS but we want to protect Iraq's "unity"... It's sickening.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 17 September 2017 13:40 (six years ago) link

Iran wants in on the action too, testing a ballistic missile

Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 23 September 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link

big day today in the middle east

Mordy, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

The Kurdish ref went as planned:

- Huge Yes vote
- Erdogan threatening the Kurds with all kinds of awful stuff, starving them being the worst
- It did lead to unprecedented crowds of Iranian Kurds on the streets, celebrating, too (in places like Mahabad etc)
- Israel continues to stand with the Kurds (with, again, a threatening Erdogan spouting nonsense at Israel)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

#Breaking: Overwhelming majority, 92.73%, vote 'yes' for independence - electoral body releases preliminary results in #KurdistanReferendum pic.twitter.com/r1pq2vitq6

— Rudaw English (@RudawEnglish) September 27, 2017

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

Baghdad has pledged to close Kurdish airspace at 6pm on Friday and Turkey says it is considering whether to shut its frontier with Kurdistan and impose a trade ban.

Massoud Barzani, the de facto president of the region’s Kurds, had hoped to transition strong support for the poll into political leverage that could eventually help negotiate independence from Iraq. His moves have been met with increasing hostility, raising the prospect of isolation, and blockade.

Some Iraqi leaders have warned of military action, particularly over the fate of Kirkuk.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/27/over-92-of-iraqs-kurds-vote-for-independence

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 27 September 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

Women soon can drive in Saudi Arabia. Progress...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

of course still can't marry, divorce, travel, open a bank account, or get a job without first getting permission from a male guardian or go outside without wearing an abaya...

Mordy, Thursday, 28 September 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/three-u-s-soldiers-killed-niger-suspected-ambush-n807821

Three U.S. Army Special Forces soldiers were killed and two were wounded in Niger on Wednesday, in an ambush by suspected Islamic militants operating from Mali, multiple sources with knowledge of the incident told NBC News.

According to the sources, one soldier form Niger was also killed in the attack.

The U.S. military did not confirm the deaths officially, but did acknowledge that a “hostile fire” incident involving U.S. troops had occurred. ...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

still can't marry, divorce, travel, open a bank account, or get a job without first getting permission from a male guardian or go outside without wearing an abaya...

If they could fix the first five of those I think they'd concede the last one as least important.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

interesting from the nyer profile of tillerson

In November, 2013, Tillerson travelled to Washington, D.C., to meet with Nuri al-Maliki, the Prime Minister of Iraq. Maliki was hoping to persuade Tillerson to change his mind about a sensitive political matter. Exxon was then negotiating a multibillion-dollar deal with the government of Iraqi Kurdistan, a semi-autonomous region in the northern part of the country, which has long sought independence. Under the deal, Exxon would explore for oil in some eight hundred and forty thousand acres, potentially providing the Kurds with a steady stream of revenue that was independent of the government in Baghdad. In Maliki’s view, giving the Kurds their own revenue would hasten a breakup of the country.

Maliki was not alone in objecting; President Obama opposed the deal, and his aides had prevailed upon Exxon executives to drop the Kurdish project. “We were concerned that this would further embolden the Kurds to strike out on their own,” Tony Blinken, Obama’s deputy national-security adviser at the time, told me.

The meeting, held at the Willard Hotel, ended in acrimony. Exxon had previously made an agreement with Maliki to undertake two drilling projects in southern Iraq, and Maliki, a former dissident and guerrilla fighter, threatened to cancel them if Exxon pursued the Kurdish deal. Tillerson refused. Maliki argued bluntly, “You’re dividing the country. You’re undermining our constitution!” But Tillerson held firm. “It was one of the worst meetings of my career,” a senior Iraqi official who was in attendance said. In the end, Exxon made the Kurdish deal.

Mordy, Saturday, 7 October 2017 04:41 (six years ago) link


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