Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

Thanks, will check those out!

I listened to Go To Nassau from 1980 recently and was surprised at how strong it was -- Garcia sounds great at least.

Oh yeah. This is a go-to "show" when I want to hear early 80s Dead. The first set is remarkably strong and their take on Jack Straw here is probably my favourite ever. Love the energy as they return to the final verse.

Grateful Dead Fan Sends Women Unsolicited Dick’s Picks

heh

I'm (re)discovering "High Time" today via Go To Nassau, and then a few different versions on Archive. Haven't owned a copy of Workingman's Dead since high school, and they didn't play the song all that often past 1970, so I'd kinda forgotten how good it is.

I've been wondering - are there any "standard" dead songs, like ones they've played more than 10 times or so, where sometimes Jerry will sing, sometimes Bob will sing? I haven't listened to nearly enough shows to have any examples of this.

I never thought too hard about the "bob songs" vs. "jerry songs" thing until I watched the recent documentary and it mentioned the spinners who would sit down for Bob songs.

i don't think so -- only thing i can think of is "when i paint my masterpiece" which garcia sang with the JGB in the 70s but Weir sang with the Dead in the 80s. there are random exceptions -- weir initially sang "dire wolf" and garcia didn't chime in on "jack straw" at first.

Hah hah, did not realize I had something in common with the spinners.

Thought I'd pass this on, really enjoyable and led me to some great AUDs which ordinarily I wouldn't have sought out

Brent sang some soaring harmonies during the chorus of Touch of Grey in the early 80s (thinking specifically of Merriweather 6/21/83, he's pretty high in the mix). Such a drag they cut his harmonies on the studio version until the very last refrain, and even then it's absurdly low in the mix.

dude sounds like grover

lol true

1:08:27 tho... his singing is amazing, fits the songs perfectly, not Grovery at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5XEHvJO9-A

discovered the bird song from 'ladies and gentlemen...' gentle and gorgeous

deep into the dead right now. one of those periods when they about 90% of what i'm listening to. goddamn i love the internet archive

past few nights i've been making art and listening to different versions of "black peter" over and over. this one from 1970-05-15 is killer https://archive.org/details/gd70-05-15.early-late.sbd.97.sbeok.shnf/gd70-5-15D3T01.shn

been really enjoying late 73 shows lately. find it hard to get into pre-71 stuff outside of 'live/dead' tbh. and can't get into black peter! it's so lugubrious

oh man it is possibly my favorite dead tune or at least rotates that spot w/ a couple of other tunes

i'll give it a shot once i wrap up my 11/11/73 listening :)

i do enjoy the studio version

fwiw, someone asked Geologist from Animal Collective at the Sung Tongs show in NYC recently what his favorite Dead show was, he said October 12, 1968 - Avalon Ballroom - San Francisco, CA

^ the second chunk of cryptical envelopment here rips, thanks!

so many 73 sugarees I am digging

i love this band so much. they are getting me through the winter man

live stuff finally clicked for me in the last few months after being a longtime workingmans/beauty fan and it's been an amazing ride, so much music to discover and enough variations to keep me happy for life i feel...

however, try as i might, i just can't get into dark star, can't even get my head around it. it's not the length- i can listen to a 30 minute love light or morning dew or 30 minutes of the same dancehall riddim or minimalist composition no problem but ds i just get lost and have nothing to grab onto, just sounds like a bunch of noodling to me.

i really WANT to like it. have mostly listened to 1969-70 versions, is there a different era of stars i might dig more?

68-69 are my favorite dark stars. iirc a lot of folks swear by 72-73

this one has some nice panache, last one before their hiatus and it shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDXE2gGlqK0

i have never gotten behind the '69 dark stars. the stuff i first got into are the 1972s, which sound like shitty "live/evil" (that's a compliment). since then i've gotten into some of the better 1970s.

have you tried 1970-11-05? that's an interesting one for me because it's not very exploratory at all, it's kind of like a recap of everything they'd accomplished by jamming the song up to that point.

I love '69 Dark Stars personally - I learned to love them listening while driving, which I recommend if it's an option. I do feel like they're a good example of how a recording can't replace the actual experience of a show though.

Oh yeah...think it might be tyme to repost "Grayfolded," a trip through many Dark Stars---a few notes of this one, more of that---full album here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl0-f1Vt6aE

Got tix the other day to see Dead and Co. this summer with my pops. I've never seen any incarnation of the band in concert but I've heard good things about this group. Consider myself a very mild fan up until now but I'm starting to play catch-up and I'll admit it's pretty addictive to stalk the Dead through different eras and different versions of songs. Once you get in their headspace it's very easy to not want to listen to anything else. case in point I feel pretty guilty at how much Dead I ended up listening to last night and this morning instead of The Fall.

there's a fantastic app called 'relisten' which lets you store archive shows offline... it's dangerous

triggering word there----evol j, you know about this right?
https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead

yes i do, i'll probably get there eventually though i'm content with what's on spotify for now.

john perry barlow died?

RIP, seemed like quite a character ...

he was quite likable in the doc- also, one of the only 'cool' republicans i can think of??

haha, i thought he was a "cyber-libertarian" ... which maybe is just republican, i dunno.

rip he seemed like an okay guy

Never Not Funny Anecdote from the Annotated Dead lyrics site:

Steven Finney wrote:
> I posted this a few years ago, but it bears a repeat...I read an
> interview with Barlow (aka "the Barlitos"...to those who know the band)
> many years ago in an English music magazine, and the following was
> one of the original lyrics to "Hell in a Bucket" which Bobby chose
> not to sing...(hey! This could even be taken as an HS reference!)
>
> "And while you were saying your mantra
> I was humping your very best friend
> And comparing myself to Sinatra
> 'Cause I did it my way in her end".

It's true! I was hanging out at Weir's a bit in those days, and there
were some gnarly ideas batted around for that song. Gerrit Graham (who
wrote "Victim or the Crime" with Bobby) was around for some of these
sessions, too.

I was actually able to contribute a little to "Hell in a Bucket": I
suggested to Bob that he change "You imagine me kissing the toe of your
boot" to "You imagine me sipping champagne from your boot." Barlow
seemed slightly miffed about it, but I'm pretty sure he got over it.

Fresh Air re-ran a Barlow interview today--- he saw that his kind of early small town experience in Wyoming was disappearing, America was becoming "Generica," but then he realized that "the Deadheads were going to The Well, an online village green" founded by The Whole Earth Catalogue's Stewart Brand and some of his crew. I started hearing about this thing in the 80s, though the only specic news item I recall is from the mid-90s, maybe: a guy who had been detailing his love life on there for years eventually decided to run for office and wanted at least some of these posts removed---caused a big furor on there, because the main doctrine on there always has been (just checked, it's still there) is, "You own your words": they belong to you alone, and you're responsible for them. Anyway, any ilxors been there? I tried an ilx search, bur gave up, "well" too common a word in thread titles.

"The Epic Saga of The Well"---from '97, but looks good:
https://www.wired.com/1997/05/ff-well/

"Estimated Prophet" is one of the best jams of the disco Dead.

yeah that song grows in stature for me, I didn't used to love it as much as I do now

same

Fun fact: Barlow worked for Dick Cheney on his 1978 Wyoming House Rep campaign! Seems like he split w/ the Republicans when neoconservatism became dominant. His politics seem pretty squarely libertarian, though. Was cool to see JPB show up in HyperNormalization; less cool that Curtis used him/EFF as stand-ins for naive utopians unwittingly ushering in commercial control of the web.

Wrote many of my least favorite GD songs but "Looks Like Rain" from Without a Net is a booming track and probably best case scenario for a Barlow/Weir tune.

I always think of Estimated Prophet as envelope filter dead more than disco dead but there is a lot of crossover there

2/27/69 vinyl for RSD!!

This will be nearly impossible to obtain but glad they're doing it

how do deadheads have so much money

Legal Weed Sales

deadheads truly exist in almost all walks of life therefore there are many many rich deadheads

yeah, true — just seems crazy the amount of cash some people must be dropping on the endless reissues, various shows, cherry garcia in bulk ...