Explosion at Ariana Grande concert in Manchester May 2017 (Also London Bridge/Borough Market attack)

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it seems easy to build a picture of how may thinks about things, in a way i wasn't with say, cameron or whatever. i think because she represents a certain type of civil servant i've dealt with almost exactly - the fear of the internet and transparency, the desire for small, private, opaque government, and the contempt for the public, the idea that government is something that should go on far away from them. it's quite reprehensible.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

Good post

Kozelek, Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

i prob mentioned before but when trump got elected an edict came down from on high that anyone in the civil service, literally anyone, should not criticise donald trump on social media, to avoid "besmirching the office of the us president" - people prob would have been annoyed except that it was so ludicrous.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

Theresa got the memo though.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

LOOOL saw that!

In other news, C4 News just interviewed Ginger Steve, a spacey homeless guy who used to hang out with the couriers at the pub under Ed's flat, and he is apparently due praise for tending to a wounded young woman hit by the van at London Bridge last night. Good on you, Steve.

I have been to this pub!!!!

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

Yes! Along with most of ILX Britisher old school (and a few lucky Americans). It's called The Clerk and Well now and the couriers have mostly gone (along with the table football, snooker and the occasional glimpse of Boris Johnson on both).

syzygy stardust (suzy), Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

This made me cry

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=NDJlPG_M600

Mule, Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

I don't even know who Ariana is but what a class act.

Whooremeister (jed_), Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link

Our family vacation has turned out to be educational for my kids in ways I didn't anticipate. We were in Manchester for the one-week memorial for the attack, we went down and saw the square full of balloons and flowers. We're in London this week, so when they woke up this morning I had to tell them what happened overnight. They were dismayed and sad, but not scared. I think terrorism to them is just one of those things that happens, like earthquakes and floods.

Solely judging on some youtube clips of One Love Manchester: What a woman. What a huge, loving heart.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 5 June 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

I'm impressed. She didn't have to do anything, and if she did, there were a dozen right things she could have done. That she did this one, and also did it right, warms the heart.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link

I confess that a fat tear rolled down my cheek during Over the Rainbow.

Madchen, Monday, 5 June 2017 05:45 (six years ago) link

Yeah, Ari was fantastic. Also really touching to see Miley helping her through it all like a big sister

del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 07:05 (six years ago) link

One of the London Bridge terror attackers was carrying an ID card issued in Ireland when he was shot dead, security sources in the Republic have confirmed.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link

The Prime Minister has called for barriers to be installed between the pavement and the road on all bridges as a basic safety measure.

Oh wait no she's not done that she's called for a magical regulated Internet to totally prevent maniacs from learning how to drive and stab.

nashwan, Monday, 5 June 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link

Asim Oddin, 39, who lived near the suspect in Barking said: “He used to park outside the flats which isn’t allowed and blocked everybody. We had an altercation when I told him not to park here. He said “not to follow the system” he was quite rude.”

wake up, sheeple.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link

an inconsiderate road-user and and murderer? not having that, sorry

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link

we need to crack down on parking offences.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link

one of the bombers allegedly had an irish id, the irish papers are saying.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

There's a suggestion he was a Moroccan living in Dublin - as recently as last year.

Ireland seems to have a relatively large Moroccan community iirc, though that might just be anecdotal.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

i have a friend whose family GP when young was harold shipman: asked how she remembers him she doesn't have much more than "he was rude and dismissive of my concerns, me, an impossibly sulky teen with acne" -- but it's not as if she was in the position to say "i remember corpses stacked three deep in the waiting room, i warned everyone but they ignored me"

so this guy's "he was an arsehole and everyone hated him" is almost bound to end up being about small neighbourly infractions -- if he knew worse (and didn't warn the authorities long ago) he obviously puts himself in a terrible position

mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

I don't even know who Ariana is but what a class act.

― Whooremeister (jed_), Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Safe to say, this clears her for the donut incident.

how's life, Monday, 5 June 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link

Asim Oddin, 39, who lived near the suspect in Barking said: “He used to park outside the flats which isn’t allowed and blocked everybody. We had an altercation when I told him not to park here. He said “not to follow the system” he was quite rude.”

If true, speaks volumes

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

Scotland Yard has named two of the attackers as Khuram Shazad Butt and Rachid Redouane, who are both from Barking in east London.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

Khuram Butt, one of the London attackers, appeared in the Channel 4 documentary the Jihadis Next Door last year.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link

Fuck me, talk about hiding in plain sight

del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

Some serious repercussions to come out of that surely?

del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link

Whoever was Home Secretary at the time might have serious questions to answer... oh, hold on.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

calls for police to get special permission to monitor broadcast communications

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

Sounds like some TVs to watch Channel 4 documentaries on jihadis might be more useful.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

that's the joke

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

Too clever for me and Theresa.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link

jesus

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

There are reports, quoting neighbours of one of the attackers, that he was driving the van very fast down the wrong lane of a street near where they all lived last Friday. People were freaking out because there were kids playing nearby and so forth. Makes sense now.

Like the Manchester bomber these guys had been reported to the authorities more than once. This is a massive fuck-up and several people deserve to lose their jobs for this, what's the point of requesting ever-more-intrusive surveillance powers when you can't even adequately monitor a guy who's *in a fucking documentary about jihadism*?

Matt DC, Monday, 5 June 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

Fuck's sake. I mean that's it right? Shows how deep the cuts have gone if they can't catch someone who's been on TV?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 5 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

There are reports, quoting neighbours of one of the attackers, that he was driving the van very fast down the wrong lane of a street near where they all lived last Friday. People were freaking out because there were kids playing nearby and so forth. Makes sense now.

why would he be doing this in advance of the attack?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

.....practice?

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Monday, 5 June 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

or mental preparation

del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link

cause he's fuckin kokooroo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 June 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

Reports that a van has driven into a crowd of people leaving a mosque in Finsbury Park.

stet, Monday, 19 June 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link

Reports of fatalities after a man knocked over many pedestrians near Finsbury Park mosque pic.twitter.com/V6JVNbBR4y

— Shulem Stern (@ShulemStern) June 19, 2017

stet, Monday, 19 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

Feels like it's time for a rolling thread tbh London Rolling

stet, Monday, 19 June 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

god fucking dammit

El Tomboto, Monday, 19 June 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link


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