millennials be spitballing
― mookieproof, Sunday, 4 June 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link
Old millennials.
Young millennials have better sense than that.
― Treeship, Sunday, 4 June 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link
I'm "Generation XY Cusp" so I proudly embody the worst characteristics of both generations.
― El Tuomasbot (milo z), Sunday, 4 June 2017 04:11 (six years ago) link
slacker narcissist
nice
― Treeship, Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link
On another thread ryan said that everything has become political now, which feels right. Aesthetics/taste seems way more marginal in how people position themselves in the culture now. Maybe. Just spitballing.
― Treeship, Saturday, June 3, 2017
I'm under this impression as well, though I obviously have no way of proving it empirically. Although aesthetics is never devoid of politics, the two aren't one and the same. Simply glossing over the former as though it were mere window dressing is an existential mistake.
― pomenitul, Monday, 5 June 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link
The archetypal "hipster" would either ironically re-appropriate mass culture or reject it in favor of some underground "alternative" culture. In both cases, the goal was to carve a space for oneself outside the mainstream, which is political definitely but quietist as well.
Nowadays the zeitgeist is so loud people don't even try to pretend they can avoid it.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
tbh you would be amazed how good parents with young kids are at avoiding a lot of the zeitgeist that doesn't involve either tv that happens after their kids go to bed or headlines that are on whatever news site they check at work over lunch
― mh, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link
I don't meet enough gen'xers that aren't reasonably pissed off by their day jobs. Most either cynical or apathetic about their work.
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 10 June 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link
you own your own business, right? and stick around Texas despite itself. you really don't - you are responsible, determined and least of all "all about me" - I'm just saying it's demonstrable even if you leave out the self-awareness which is an instant DQ for anybody trying to belong to any stereotype
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 10 June 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link
I embody 2009
― Treeship, Saturday, 10 June 2017 12:50 (six years ago) link
I work for a big evil corp and actually enjoy my job too often
― mh, Saturday, 10 June 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Req588D.jpg
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Sunday, 13 May 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
seems accurate
― cr.ht (crüt), Sunday, 13 May 2018 03:11 (six years ago) link
Eh, fair point. Whatever.
https://i.imgur.com/dw2ywqs.jpg
― pplains, Sunday, 13 May 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
Boomers: actual phone callsXers: email threads millennials: slack gen z: discord
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 13 May 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
Folks... https://t.co/WU9JgfGwxo pic.twitter.com/pRAHrFIdBc— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) September 4, 2018
― sciatica, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:11 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/buvDZ5Z.jpg
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:16 (five years ago) link
* really good use of that King Crimson song
* i was at a house show over the weekend and this guy started talking about his taste in house music and how he liked old school stuff from when his parents were his age -- his parents were young enough to be my high school classmates.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:49 (five years ago) link
which got me thinking -- were baby boomers the first generation that really tried to socially/culturally integrate with younger generations -- or is it just another boomer myth? Like the stereotype of the aging gen-x hipster just seems like an update of the "weird old guy" at punk shows in the 90s?
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 05:53 (five years ago) link
The weird old person has been hanging around at the the young people since ancient Mesopotamia, I’d guess
― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:09 (five years ago) link
Wait what xp
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
were baby boomers the first generation that really tried to socially/culturally integrate with younger generations
there's also the flipside of that which is that so many of the touchstones of the boomer generation never went away - you can still go and see the rolling stones in concert, paul mccartney's still pumping out albums, music and film from the late sixties and early seventies are still forever being referenced in new art etc
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link
speaking of younger generations, a couple of friends and I were wondering: were millennials the first generation to think (collectively, as much as a "generation" can think or exist really) the generation after them was unambiguously better in any single way? given that every single "the first generation to" complaint/theory is wrong, the answer has to be no, right?
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:53 (five years ago) link
Are men’s sperm counts really dropping that dramatically with no explanation? That is definitely a symptom of more things going wrong in public health
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link
Btw i don’t think generation Z is better than me and ky fellow millennials.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link
BPA and phthalates in plastics, according to the article
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:56 (five years ago) link
― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link
and boy did they
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
i feel the boomers should be split into two generations. my parents were born in the early sixties and i don't associate them with any of that stuff.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link
they're not big pop culture people in any case, but if anything the 80s and 90s were their era. when they were my age, it was already the early 90s.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
your parents are generation x
― got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:38 (five years ago) link
or possibly "generation jones"
Technically they are boomers, as the cut off is 64. Mt mom was the youngest of seven so she does seem knowledgeable about the whole “boomer experience,” although she somewhat despises that era (vietnam/counterculture) which she says “destroyed her family.”
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:43 (five years ago) link
yeah boomers need a subgeneration because it's demographically viable to say there was this continuous baby boom through the mid 60s but you end up with a twenty-year span for the "generation," such that first-round boomers could have kids that would also qualify as baby boomers. and then culturally, yeah, there's very little affinity between ppl who graduated high school in 1967 and in 1985 or what have you.
― got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
hence the "generation jones" concept
― got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
yeah boomers need a subgeneration because it's demographically viable to say there was this continuous baby boom through the mid 60s but you end up with a twenty-year span for the "generation,"
I feel like the fact that people feel the need to subdivide these 'generations' to spans far shorter than actual human generations points to a flaw in the original theory.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
otm. so so tired of people talking about generation whatever.
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/05/sally-rooney-millennials-normal-people
I feel this could have been written about so many books of the last 40 years. "[...] her characters use irony to dilute their existential anxiety about being over-educated and aimless in a time when the very world order seems up in the air."
― fetter, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
Sund4r, my point is just that if a parent and child can belong to the same "generation" then either that generation has been too widely drawn or we should stop talking about "generations." i agree with the latter in principle but it can be a nice pointless diversion and if one doesn't want to engage in it one can just avoid this thread, idk.
― got the scuba tube blowin' like a snork (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:21 (five years ago) link
I do want to engage in it!: I'm pointing out that I think the theory is deeply flawed.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
The thread started out mocking generational theory don’f forget 🌈⭐️
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
Either you have to draw the generations widely enough that a parent and child can be part of the same generation or you have to draw them so narrowly that their spans have nothing to do with generations in the biological sense.
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link
(That's not the only flaw, though.)
― The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
But the theory has nothing to do with biology and everything to do with culture, I assume
― Josefa, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
the gilmore girls seem like the same generation
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
X'ers. rory is technically a millennial though, i believe.
“It’s stupid to measure position by a bunch of lines that all intersect at the top and bottom! If they all intersect, it’s meaningless!”“Measuring position by continuous lines that just go around in circles doesn’t tell you anything!”
― Paleo Weltschmerz (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
This isn’t a nerd forum please use a different analogy using cultural touchstones that millennials can relate to
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
back in the 90s, when generational theory was also popular, people born in the early 60s were considered Gen-X!!
Kinda feel like people who weren't born/were too young to remember Cuban Missile Crisis/Kennedy Assassination aren't boomers.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
similarly, people who weren't born/were too young to remember Reagan's presidency aren't really Gen-X
― sarahell, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link