i agree w/ calstars, there's a pretty huge leap between Dead Roots Stirring and Lore, imo ... which is more a reflection of Lore's quality than DRS
― alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link
Kinda into this now
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 3 June 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link
Their 2009 debut isn't chopped liver either. Yeah it's more traditional stoner/doom, but it's fun. I've been lucky enough to see Elder four times now. The first, around 2012, was the loudest. I just jammed in the earplugs and let the sub-bass massage everything down to my hair follicles. I think they go for a more balanced volume level now that they're a bit more intricate. They're touring all over Europe this summer then back in the U.S. in the fall.
No one is better at their particular style. I do kind of think of Wo Fat as their cousins in Texas with more of a swamp/blues element, and an occasional nod to Bitches Brew fusion. After not properly touring the U.S. for their entire existence (again, they're more appreciated in Europe), I'm excited to finally see them in a couple weeks.
I banged out a review late one night.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 3 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
okay wow yeah these guys rip... can tell they'd be pummeling live
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 June 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
i've already said this upthread but their set at Psycho Las Vegas last year was literally a jaw-dropping, stupid-grin-making kind of thing. i was absolutely blown away.
― alpine static, Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
These guys have me revisiting Ancestors, who I hadn't listened to in quite a while (their last album is in 2012). Apparently they're currently recording a new one.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 3 June 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
(she sells) sanctuary
\m/
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 4 June 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link
bless this album
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
"Thousand Hands" is fight my geration's "lonely is the word"
― calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link
Watching the sunset with E. what could beat this?
― calstars, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link
Sorry for the psychedelic intrusions : )
― calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
Sorry to interrupt the hosannas, but I don't know, this seems a bit same-y to me. Now I admit I've only listened to it once so far, but I think the songs on Lore had already started to differentiate themselves a bit more after one listen. It's super-pleasant and accomplished and all, but it seems like they've foregrounded the sonic wallpaper aspects this time around in place of memorable hooks. Hopefully further listening will change my mind.
― o. nate, Thursday, 8 June 2017 00:54 (six years ago) link
52 answers w/o a trollGuesss that's ok
― calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link
Sorry, of course everyone's entitled to their own opinion
― calstars, Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
I wouldn't call that trolling. It's a fair complaint, and when not in the proper mood, I've had similar reservations about both Lore and Reflections. Elder build fascinating sonic journeys out of riffs, shifting textures and melodic fragments, but immediately memorable hooks are scarce. Not absent - more like sneaky. Can see why some might grow bored waiting for the point to arrive.
― Beetle Juice continued to spit all over our drinks (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link
that's funny, earlier today i was thinking about how immediate i found this record compared to its proggy psychy metal peers
― adam, Thursday, 8 June 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
this album
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 15 June 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link
"blind" is the sequel to "snowblind". holy shit
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 19 June 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Love this band! I actually interviewed Nick a few weeks ago and he was a super interesting dude.
http://clrvynt.com/elder-interview/
― jterich, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link
my god this album
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
I think staving off truth is the highlight
― calstars, Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
wow, there are a lot of great riffs on this. "The Falling Veil" especially.
― jmm, Thursday, 17 August 2017 14:06 (six years ago) link
830 or so in Blind is tops
― calstars, Thursday, 24 August 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link
"staving off the truth"!
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 October 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
yes.
― calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
I've listened to Staving Off Truth so many times I've hardly heard the rest of the album yet. When it kicks back in after the long chill part in the middle I just, like, gaze over the canyons and dwell upon my many adventures as a wandering barbarian.
― orifex, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link
Carry on then
― calstars, Saturday, 11 November 2017 22:54 (six years ago) link
yep that track is
― ciderpress, Sunday, 12 November 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link
Put this on my year-end list for The Wire.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 12 November 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
At over 2200 this album is far and away in the most other collections of things I've bought on Bandcamp. The median being around 100 or less probably.
― Noel Emits, Sunday, 12 November 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
Interesting. They felt pretty small-time / undiscovered when Lore came out (and even after). 2200 is 600 more than any of my shared albums and that includes Pinegrove and Deafheaven.
Is Elder huge?
― alpine static, Monday, 13 November 2017 06:56 (six years ago) link
Can you guys explain what these numbers get at? College friend of mine is in the band so I always get a kick out of exploring their success.
― tomorrow, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
It means that 2200+ people have paid to download their album from Bandcamp (including me).
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
Their later stuff is #great but their high point remains “release,” at least for me
― calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
As leaves upon the water etc
― calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link
#asttheplanetsrealign etc
― calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
this fucking band, man
― alpine static, Friday, 1 December 2017 05:19 (six years ago) link
They're a hard working band -- I think they've crossed the country four times in the last couple years. Every show I see there's more and more people. A group of five curious friends accompanied me at the one last month, and minds were properly blown. However, they're definitely still underground, as there is a big hurdle to cross over into the more semi-mainstream success of, say, Mastodon, QOTSA or uh, Evanescence. They don't neatly fit into any genre that is fashionable right now.
A good example are the two reviewers from Overkill via BangerTV. Seeing them talk about other music, they are often fairly articulate, but they come off pretty moronic here because they just don't know what to make of Elder. They don't fit into any one convenient bucket of doom, sludge, psych or prog, so they dismiss them as it's outside of their comfort zone.https://youtu.be/mBsTQ1_UFow?t=8m17s
They remastered their first two albums, and added demos to the first one. I've already bought two different CDs of the first album, but I gladly paid the $7 on Bandcamp for this:
https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/elder-remastered-demoshttps://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/album/dead-roots-stirring-remastered
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
For additional perspective on their sales, here's the report after their first week of sales.
http://www.metalinsider.net/columns/metal-by-numbers/metal-by-numbers-614-miss-may-i-missed-some-sales
Miss May I sold 4,425, and Eighteen Visions 3,525. I've never even heard of those bands. Elder was the 11th rock/metal entry listed with just 520 albums sold.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
Nick also has a 50 track or so public playlist on Spotify.
― calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/user/nickdisalvo/playlist/0gUCNLoCeXP1viRN3ej68u?si=1Cn-5p_PT7WwEht451RmiA
― calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
...and it’s very mellow, very “the amazing” for lack of a better reference
― calstars, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link
I wonder how they calculate numbers for albums that sell in those numbers. It's usually very hard to find credible sales figures for classical recordings that sell even five figures. Is the album only available through Bandcamp?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 4 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
"Even six figures" (Reich/Glass numbers) is what I meant.
https://open.spotify.com/track/2nTFISlOwaTdUXOtpuiXRp?si=Cb4kkLHQTvecPosVjhNpWg
― calstars, Thursday, 10 May 2018 02:08 (six years ago) link
i mean who is better than this band, heavy/hard-rock-wise? good lord, they're monstrous.
LOL. QFT.
UK dates from September 30th.
― Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Saturday, 16 June 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link
Every now and then, someone gets out of their head and discovers E
― calstars, Monday, 18 June 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
Annoyed at myself for neglecting to pick up a T-shirt at the London show. Really want a green on black 'embryo' (medium). Help!
― the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
I’ve got 2 shirts, one gold on black head in the desert, one blue on black cosmic. Don’t think I’ve seen the one you’re talking about
― calstars, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
I think it's this design but on a black shirt. Looked much better.
https://tshirtslayer.com/files-tshirt/styles/shirtviewbottom/public/user-23801/x12a86e3d9df6cfc6dcf796697f66e029.jpg?itok=9ClTzz8y
― the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
on first listen the last two tracks really stand out. definitely listening to this a bunch.
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 27 November 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
overall this feels more propulsive than the last one. the mood is less earthbound and more playing in the sky. more sections featuring fast, flashy runs and switch-ups. skyward synth arpeggios. the end of track 4 and then the last track are more somber. it's really fucking good imo. gonna be my workout records for the rest of the year.
― ꙮ (map), Sunday, 27 November 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link
this rocks, giving me some much needed pep lately.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link
Damn this band is so consistently great, loving this new one.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 23:00 (one year ago) link
high five
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 1 December 2022 01:25 (one year ago) link
They're playing the Modified Ghost festival in Vancouver with Yob and Khemmis, plus other bands.
Tempting!
― alpine static, Thursday, 1 December 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
catching up on the new one, this is fantastic
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 18:20 (one year ago) link
Don’t sleep on the Eldovar album either from 2021
― calstars, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/CguFpEK.jpeg
― calstars, Sunday, 24 March 2024 00:45 (one month ago) link