They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

so is it too explained, or unexplained? it can't be both (lol or maybe it can)

i mean, maybe i was really tired when i watched prometheus the other day but imo yeah it totally can bc the character relationships are so arbitrary and unformed

i saw prometheus on t.v. long after it had come out and had zero expectations and i was probably drunk and i didn't mind it. remember thinking a movie about the alien dudes and no earthlings would have been cool.

How about a movie about the alien dudes and just a few earthlings?
https://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-production/stills/132359-f817877867d4b2a6514f9fc3f7b7faba/Film_820_FantasticPlanet_original.jpg

i'm just always hoping to see a big budget sci-fi movie where the cast doesn't look like it just got off the hollywood freeway 20 minutes before a scene was filmed. but that's mostly what you get. stupid american generics who sound like they are from 1992 and their ship.

i liked that one about the monoliths that land on earth. except for all the people in the movie.

was good fassbender's accent supposed to be generic american or irish?

when will they finally make an Alien movie where the characters all make smart choices, avoid danger and get to their destination safely?!

Alien: Avoid

lol Darin

Once again, the people generally make smart decisions, and at the very least make in-character ones. That this isn't enough to get them all out alive is part of what makes the alien so terrifying! The Covenant crew seem like they'd have ended up the same way faced with the rascally rodent from "Mouse Hunt." So, not such a fun summer horror movie.

ER I mean "the people in the original Alien"

see, for me, the awful choices and general dumbness of the characters just adds to the nightmarish sense of dread. maybe I'm just more eager to dump my suspension of disbelief for this franchise I dunno.

or I should say hold on to my suspension of disbelief

I mean if you genuinely can't see a difference between wanting characters who are infallible and wanting ones who can turn left, if those two things look the same from where you are standing... I have a mission for you

the only thing that REALLY bugged me was the very end w/whatsherface hopping in her sleep chamber all willy nilly w/out questioning Walter/David

Dude I'm such a moron it literally never occurred to me

I was like "Why does Walter seem slightly amused by this alien chase"

haha

I immediately thought, when "Walter" emerged from the fight with David, "IT'S DAVID!!! WATCH OUT!!"

I was starting to question whether they actually let Walter win, but then remembered that David had a really strong case to play the long game -- thousands of humans and embryos for experiment fodder. So, no matter how nice he seemed or how scorched his arm looked, I knew that fucker was David

walter turning evil would have been a better twist. also funnier if walter ended up severing david's head and smuggling it back with him.

It's kind of a cheat, we don't know for sure if Walter is dead or just incapacitated when they leave the planet. So there's the opportunity to continue from this movie with Fassbender once again being the only recurring actor

Guy Pearce is in both films too

I'd blocked out that awkward David intro

tbh i love that intro

I liked it, but Ridley's tendency to do these mood pieces and then jam them in at random spots is not so hot

Was there a suggestion that Demian Bichir and the guy who spawned the second alien were a couple, or did I make that up? Rest of the crew was couples, and those two seemed to have a moment.

it's implicit iirc

What if this film and Prometheus are about not only the production of aliens as a species but of Alien as a franchise

And thus our protagonists are Walter (Hill) and David (Giler)?

^ VERY similar thesis laid out here!

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/13/film-crit-hulk-smash-ridley-scott-cinemas-underrated-weirdo

What a weird piece. Spends all that time coming around to saying things that people were saying about his general aesthetic and approach to film over thirty years ago! What's he going to write next, a semi-breathless piece about how Michael Bay likes shooting action scenes?

Meantime, Ridley's gearing up!

Ridley Scott revealed the next Alien film will feature a return to the ruined home world of The Engineers.

"We’re being written now. There’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space.

"Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet. In so doing…I’m not going to tell you the story!"

I know you're all thrilled.

There’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate

aliens vs predators vs humans vs muppet babies

I know you're all thrilled.

I am!

the underrated weirdo essay needed the title PYGMALIEN or gtfo

yeah idk after covenant i'm sorta excited for whatever the next one is, though it sounds like there'll be fewer gay robots, which, dud

Well whaddaya know? I really enjoyed "Covenant". Liked the pulpy haunted house / Dr Moreau vibe and I think David is now one of the best recent movie villains. A solid expensive B sci fi flick.

Yes of course

http://io9.gizmodo.com/ridley-scott-has-an-idea-to-work-ripley-into-his-alien-1796788933

We’re heading toward the back end of the first Alien so [using CG] may be feasible. I don’t think it’ll... but Ripley’s going to be somebody’s daughter. Obviously. We’re coming in from the back end. The time constraints, of what’s the time between this film, where we leave David going off heading for that colony, I think you’re probably two films out from even considering her.

grrrr

obviously coming in from the back end

dude turning into george fkn lucas before our eyes

He should retroactively insert unicorn shots into the original Alien.

He could insert the unicorn from the back end. Or from his back end.

ridley nooooo

see, it's like facehuggery, they rhyme

I can see it now, he wants to end his final Alien movie showing Ripley and others getting into their sleep chamber on the Nostromo.

also david was a stowaway and reprogrammed Mother and then downloaded himself into Ash and then while they were in hypersleep (this would be a post credit scene) he zoomed ahead of them to plant the space jockey and the eggs and all that

Spoilers!

I can't tell if Covenant is better than Prometheus, worse than Prometheus, or better because it is worse. There are certainly elements of it that are smarter, and yeah, there are certainly characters in it that are dumber, which is ... almost impossible. Either way, I've been watching this and decided I needed to go to bed so checked out how much time was left and holy shit, 28 minutes? It's not boring, and it looks pretty good, but I can't conceive of nearly 30 more minutes this movie needs.

The story is just being extruded like alien slime into a potentially infinite number of receptacles (films, eggs, whatever)

If Ridley Scott has his way, it'll go on forever, never getting to the promised land of the point of transition to Alien

Zeno's alien

no zenophobia itt pls

Omg it really is the Zeno's of origin monster stories though

Monster origin stories I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KpZRJ4HE4Q

lol the YT ad that comes up with that for me says "egg customer refunds"