Imagine if Cronenberg had cast Fassbender as Freud and Jung.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
naked fassbender or just the regular one?
― Balðy Daudrs (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:34 (six years ago) link
All Fassbender is Naked Fassbender
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
ppl were like "wow the crew in this movie is the dumbest yet" but nah other than the lady who broke quarantine and fired on a bunch of oxygen tanks no way do they make dumber decisions than anyone in prometheus
Bad robot: hey captain come peer into this monster egg I promise it isn't a monster egg
Captain: ok well I just found out you're the bad guy so *sticks entire face right the fuck into the monster egg*
― in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:02 (six years ago) link
^^^as dumb as any of the decisions in prometheus, maybe. dumber? no
― mark s, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
lol fair, I'd say the same of the woman who shot up the oxygen tanks actually - all about equally dumb
― in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
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eh, i'll allow it if it causes billy crudup to die horribly
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
as a friend said, at least there wasn't an unmotivated suicide in this one
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
Crudup was beautiful once.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
also i'm pretty inured to horror movie logic so "peering into something that is obviously going to kill you" is fine with me in a way that, say, "charlize theron gets flattened by a spaceship bc she's only capable of running in a straight line" isn't
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
i revisited prometheus before watching the new one, the anger is fresh
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link
I went to the local theater that has the beer/food delivered to your seat and they seat you early to get orders, and show a reel of material related to the movie. Included was one of those youtube "honest reviews" or w/e for Prometheus, which would normally drive me nuts because it's nitpicking, but with Prometheus... they were pretty on point
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Which was the unmotivated suicide?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
idris elba sacrificing himself and two other undeveloped crew members by flying the prometheus straight into the side of the engineer's ship... because....noomi rapace said it was a bad ship????
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
He'd already seen the armaments by then, and had a conversation with her about how that ship could never reach earth.
(I assumed you meant The Boy with the Worm in his Eye)
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
yes i also remember the scene where idris started speaking in pure exposition
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
ugh
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
thrilled that covenant doesn't follow up on "why did that one guy turn into a wolf zombie"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
so is it too explained, or unexplained? it can't be both (lol or maybe it can)
in re new one, yes the captain is egregiously stupid but it's very baked into his character and the script
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
i mean, maybe i was really tired when i watched prometheus the other day but imo yeah it totally can bc the character relationships are so arbitrary and unformed
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
i saw prometheus on t.v. long after it had come out and had zero expectations and i was probably drunk and i didn't mind it. remember thinking a movie about the alien dudes and no earthlings would have been cool.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 June 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
How about a movie about the alien dudes and just a few earthlings?https://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-production/stills/132359-f817877867d4b2a6514f9fc3f7b7faba/Film_820_FantasticPlanet_original.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link
i'm just always hoping to see a big budget sci-fi movie where the cast doesn't look like it just got off the hollywood freeway 20 minutes before a scene was filmed. but that's mostly what you get. stupid american generics who sound like they are from 1992 and their ship.
i liked that one about the monoliths that land on earth. except for all the people in the movie.
― scott seward, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
was good fassbender's accent supposed to be generic american or irish?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
when will they finally make an Alien movie where the characters all make smart choices, avoid danger and get to their destination safely?!
― Darin, Thursday, 1 June 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
Alien: Avoid
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
lol Darin
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
Once again, the people generally make smart decisions, and at the very least make in-character ones. That this isn't enough to get them all out alive is part of what makes the alien so terrifying! The Covenant crew seem like they'd have ended up the same way faced with the rascally rodent from "Mouse Hunt." So, not such a fun summer horror movie.
― ﴿→ ☺ (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
ER I mean "the people in the original Alien"
see, for me, the awful choices and general dumbness of the characters just adds to the nightmarish sense of dread. maybe I'm just more eager to dump my suspension of disbelief for this franchise I dunno.
― Darin, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link
or I should say hold on to my suspension of disbelief
― Darin, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
I mean if you genuinely can't see a difference between wanting characters who are infallible and wanting ones who can turn left, if those two things look the same from where you are standing... I have a mission for you
― in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
the only thing that REALLY bugged me was the very end w/whatsherface hopping in her sleep chamber all willy nilly w/out questioning Walter/David
― Darin, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
Dude I'm such a moron it literally never occurred to me
I was like "Why does Walter seem slightly amused by this alien chase"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
haha
I immediately thought, when "Walter" emerged from the fight with David, "IT'S DAVID!!! WATCH OUT!!"
I was starting to question whether they actually let Walter win, but then remembered that David had a really strong case to play the long game -- thousands of humans and embryos for experiment fodder. So, no matter how nice he seemed or how scorched his arm looked, I knew that fucker was David
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
walter turning evil would have been a better twist. also funnier if walter ended up severing david's head and smuggling it back with him.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link
It's kind of a cheat, we don't know for sure if Walter is dead or just incapacitated when they leave the planet. So there's the opportunity to continue from this movie with Fassbender once again being the only recurring actor
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
Guy Pearce is in both films too
― Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:53 (six years ago) link
I'd blocked out that awkward David intro
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link
tbh i love that intro
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
I liked it, but Ridley's tendency to do these mood pieces and then jam them in at random spots is not so hot
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link
Was there a suggestion that Demian Bichir and the guy who spawned the second alien were a couple, or did I make that up? Rest of the crew was couples, and those two seemed to have a moment.
― geoffreyess, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:27 (six years ago) link
it's implicit iirc
― mh, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
What if this film and Prometheus are about not only the production of aliens as a species but of Alien as a franchise
And thus our protagonists are Walter (Hill) and David (Giler)?
― Harthill Services (Neil Willett), Saturday, 3 June 2017 22:48 (six years ago) link
^ VERY similar thesis laid out here!
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/13/film-crit-hulk-smash-ridley-scott-cinemas-underrated-weirdo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link
What a weird piece. Spends all that time coming around to saying things that people were saying about his general aesthetic and approach to film over thirty years ago! What's he going to write next, a semi-breathless piece about how Michael Bay likes shooting action scenes?
Meantime, Ridley's gearing up!
Ridley Scott revealed the next Alien film will feature a return to the ruined home world of The Engineers."We’re being written now. There’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space."Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet. In so doing…I’m not going to tell you the story!"
"We’re being written now. There’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate. One of which will be the Engineers arriving back to find their planet decimated. I think those ships come and go on regular intervals. I see them as the gardeners of space.
"Where we go next is obvious. We’re gonna actually go to the planet. In so doing…I’m not going to tell you the story!"
I know you're all thrilled.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:56 (six years ago) link
There’ll be three or four different players coming in to investigate
aliens vs predators vs humans vs muppet babies
― total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 22 June 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
I am!
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 22 June 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
the underrated weirdo essay needed the title PYGMALIEN or gtfo
― mark s, Thursday, 22 June 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
yeah idk after covenant i'm sorta excited for whatever the next one is, though it sounds like there'll be fewer gay robots, which, dud
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 June 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link