Trump, June 2017: From [Covfefe] with Love

How many thousands of postmortem posts have we scrolled past from everyone and their Aunt Lillian?

It would seem odd if one of the two people most central all this nonsense is allowed to have and express exactly zero thoughts about it (however wrongheaded and/or self-serving those thoughts may be). Especially since the other person most central to all this nonsense is a flaming bag of garbage.

you missed an "also" in there

suggestions for a better Trump June thread title?

how about "Trump in June - as the World Falls Down" or "June must not become Trumpo"

Jareds and Germans and Leakers, oh my

how about "Trump in June - as the World Falls Down" or "June must not become Trumpo"

― Violet Jax (Violet Jynx)

they roll right off the tongue

worst sock ever

Totally pathetic his "I will be announcing" scheme. It seems that everyone knows what he is going to decide concerning the Paris climate agreement except himself.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified Account @realDonaldTrump 13 hours ago
I will be announcing my decision on Paris Accord, Thursday at 3:00 P.M. The White House Rose Garden. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified Account @realDonaldTrump May, 31st
I will be announcing my decision on the Paris Accord over the next few days. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

i'd be okay with 'worst sock ever' as a june thread title

props to alfred for thread title

I bet he announces the US will STAY with the paris agreement just to shock everyone

k3vin k otm

there is absolutely zero reason for Trump to stay in the agreement. he only gives a shit about pleasing two groups of people: a) his base, and b) plutocrats. the former (sadly) doesn't give a shit about climate change and the latter of course views responsible environmental policy as a hindrance to making money. this is why i remain at least somewhat optimistic about health care, because that's something his base does care about, and sure enough Trump has managed to periodically undermine AHCA via tweet.

xp

I bet he announces the US will STAY with the paris agreement just to shock everyone

yeah but he's president! THEREFORE, America is great.

I would have gone with "Trump In June: The Rule of Turds" but neofolk references are rarely crowd pleasers

I bet he announces the US will STAY with the penis agreement

^ read thusly. did not lol, but was tempted.

The US is expected to remain united in agreement that Trump is a penis.

Trump's penis belongs to Putin

a nice amuse bouche for the beginning of the month. bon appetit!

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/335886-gop-rep-on-climate-change-god-will-take-care-of-it

b) plutocrats... view responsible environmental policy as a hindrance to making money.

This is not accurate. The plutocrats, incl those actually in his cabinet, rightly see $$$ to be made from climate change mitigation policies and technologies. It's a growth industry in huge demand already generating tons of activity and money.

“I believe there’s climate change,” Walberg said at a town hall last Friday in Coldwater, Mich., according to the Huffington Post, which obtained video of the exchange.

“I believe there’s been climate change since the beginning of time. I think there are cycles. Do I think that man has some impact? Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No.”

“Why do I believe that? Well, as a Christian, I believe that there is a creator in God who is much bigger than us. And I’m confident that, if there’s a real problem, he can take care of it.”

sure! like he averted the 2004 tsunami, for example, or the 2010 haiti earthquakes, for example

thx god u the best

Yeah, of course. Can man change the entire universe? No.”

we're not talking about the fucking climate in alpha centauri you stupid cunt

I agree with the GOP that god will 'take care of it,' in much the same sense that a Mafia don would ask one of his button men to 'take care of it.'

I careen down the freeway with my hands off the wheel and trust that god will 'take care of it.' P.S. I am functionally brain dead and do not understand how reality works.

I don't think it matters much whether the US stays with the Paris agreement or not, for the simple reason that, as Οὖτις said above, America's billionaire class is already moving toward more environmentally friendly policies with or without the government. Trump can stomp his foot and bark about coal all he wants; the fact is, solar and wind are cheaper than fossil fuels now, and that's all that matters to big business. We're gonna wind up complying with environmental regulations despite ourselves, for the same reason we do everything else: out of greed and self-interest.

so you're saying he was right all along?

how are they ever going to make a two hour movie out of all this? hope oliver stone stays healthy:

"The source mentioned Farage’s links with Roger Stone, Trump’s long-time political adviser who has admitted being in contact with Guccifer 2.0, a hacker whom US intelligence agencies believe to be a Kremlin agent."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/01/nigel-farage-is-person-of-interest-in-fbi-investigation-into-trump-and-russia?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

i think anything which strengthens the belief that climate change is a myth is extremely dangerous, and it's hard to imagine what better propaganda win for climate-change deniers there could be than the world's second-largest polluter pulling out of a major international agreement on emissions

xposts The reason for Hillary to refrain from "blamesplaining" is not because she's incorrect or shouldn't be president right now.

It's because we're in a fucking crisis, and putting this crisis in the context of who won the election alienates the 50+% of the population who view her unfavorably. It completely plays into Trump's hands. Thanks for your service, but we have the FBI, two congressional committees, basically the entire fourth estate, and an infuriated public on the case. Please go away, you are not helping.

she appreciates the advice

with climate and business i figure it will just take some big oil company figuring out how to own the solar panels on every house in america to get things rolling. green can equal greed just as much as anything else can.

what she appreciates is her place in history

Is it cool if she starts talking shit midway through his second term?

I don't care whether she stays or goes but this Pierce column makes strong points:

Frankly, I hope she continues to "frustrate" Democratic panjandrums and I hope she continues to make the likes of Ruth Marcus simper about how bitter she is. Right now, as far as I can see, HRC is the only one completely free to hammer away at the extraordinary events that conspired to put Donald Trump in the White House. As the investigations continue to accelerate, the country needs somebody outside of the Congress and outside of Department of Justice to keep the country at large focused on the real cost of having abided by the Clinton Rules while an election was hijacked from afar. Might as well be her.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55410/hillary-clinton-2016-election-comments/

OKAY THIS IS A CONCEPT ARE YOU READY:

hillary runs for prez again and her campaign slogan?

Hindsight is 2020

— seems bad (@glaserface) May 31, 2017

xpost it would have been cooler still if she had won MI PA WI OH

HRC is the only one completely free to hammer away at the extraordinary events that conspired to put Donald Trump in the White House

^this is such bullshit

this thread is cursed

xpost it would have been cooler still if she had won MI PA WI OH

― Hadrian VIII,

it would've been cooler had voter fraud not happened in Wisconsin

the people who care about "the extraordinary events that conspired to put Donald Trump in the White House" aren't tabling that concern anytime soon, and the people who don't care aren't going to start caring because Hillary talks about it. I have no problem with her offering her own diagnosis of the election when asked but we shouldn't pretend it's going to win any Democrats any new votes.

Don't worry – she doesn't get air time. Ruth Marcus and Chris Cilizza do.

I think grawlix has a bullseye

kinda amused by this idea that Hillary has a responsibility to win over people who irrationally hate her and don't care about reason or logic

Hey let's try to build consensus that Trump is a puppet of Vladimir Putin, we'll put in charge the person who said exactly that on national television six months ago, that'll get the message over

Yeah, but she was just saying that to get elected, man. Now that she lost, people might listen to her.

"in charge"

we shouldn't pretend it's going to win any Democrats any new votes

is anyone pretending this

Honestly, there is very little about all these Russian investigations that weren't brought up months ago (go figure). People don't give a shit, because they are ignorant or assholes or just going about their lives.

Nothing Clinton will say will change anybody's mind (did Al Gore change anyone's mind when he protested the Iraq War?) but she doesn't have to shut up.

Yeah, it's a useful cover. Regardless, I'll take that.

Oregon automatically adds people to voting rolls when they do basically any civic process, like basically if you look at a DMV you are registered to vote, so there's got to be some legal consent issues there?

kolbach should just download that huge RNC leak from a few weeks ago

Haha yes of course

Scott Walker's Advice to President Trump: 'Tweet More'https://t.co/pLoR1d0rTv

— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 30, 2017

Moving to Maryland in late September. :)

Damn, that Hoseman statement makes me not quite as ashamed to live in Mississippi as I usually am.

Hm hm hm

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-activist-who-sought-clinton-emails-cited-trump-campaign-officials-1498872923

A longtime Republican activist who led an operation hoping to obtain Hillary Clinton emails from hackers listed senior members of the Trump campaign, including some who now serve as top aides in the White House, in a recruitment document for his effort.

The activist, Peter W. Smith, named the officials in a section of the document marked “Trump Campaign.” The document was dated Sept. 7, 2016. That was around the time Mr. Smith said he started his search for 33,000 emails Mrs. Clinton deleted from the private server she used for official business while secretary of state. She said the deleted emails concerned personal matters. She turned over tens of thousands of other emails to the State Department.

But also, the @pwnallthethings dude's story has gone live...and it's a doozy.

https://lawfareblog.com/time-i-got-recruited-collude-russians

I read the Wall Street Journal’s article yesterday on attempts by a GOP operative to recover missing Hillary Clinton emails with more than usual interest. I was involved in the events that reporter Shane Harris described, and I was an unnamed source for the initial story. What’s more, I was named in, and provided the documents to Harris that formed the basis of, this evening’s follow-up story...

Although it wasn’t initially clear to me how independent Smith’s operation was from Flynn or the Trump campaign, it was immediately apparent that Smith was both well connected within the top echelons of the campaign and he seemed to know both Lt. Gen. Flynn and his son well. Smith routinely talked about the goings on at the top of the Trump team, offering deep insights into the bizarre world at the top of the Trump campaign. Smith told of Flynn’s deep dislike of DNI Clapper, whom Flynn blamed for his dismissal by President Obama. Smith told of Flynn’s moves to position himself to become CIA Director under Trump, but also that Flynn had been persuaded that the Senate confirmation process would be prohibitively difficult. He would instead therefore become National Security Advisor should Trump win the election, Smith said. He also told of a deep sense of angst even among Trump loyalists in the campaign, saying “Trump often just repeats whatever he’s heard from the last person who spoke to him,” and expressing the view that this was especially dangerous when Trump was away....

Then, a few weeks into my interactions with Smith, he sent me a document, ostensibly a cover page for a dossier of opposition research to be compiled by Smith’s group, and which purported to clear up who was involved. The document was entitled “A Demonstrative Pedagogical Summary to be Developed and Released Prior to November 8, 2016,” and dated September 7. It detailed a company Smith and his colleagues had set up as a vehicle to conduct the research: “KLS Research”, set up as a Delaware LLC “to avoid campaign reporting,” and listing four groups who were involved in one way or another.

The first group, entitled “Trump Campaign (in coordination to the extent permitted as an independent expenditure)” listed a number of senior campaign officials: Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Sam Clovis, Lt. Gen. Flynn and Lisa Nelson.

The largest group named a number of “independent groups / organizations / individuals / resources to be deployed.” My name appears on this list. At the time, I didn’t recognize most of the others; however, several made headlines in the weeks immediately prior to the election....

I’m sure readers are wondering: why did I keep quiet at the time? Actually, I didn’t. In the fall, prior to the election, I discussed the events of the story first with a friend, and secondly with a journalist. The trouble was that neither I nor the reporter in question knew what to make of the whole operation. It was certainly clear that the events were bizarre, and deeply unsettling. But it wasn’t reportable.

After all, Clinton’s private emails never materialized. We couldn’t show that Smith had been in contact with actual Russians. And while I believed—as I still do—that he was operating with some degree of coordination with the campaign, that was at least a little murky too. The story just didn’t make much sense—that is, until the Journal yesterday published the critical fact that U.S. intelligence has reported that Russian hackers were looking to get emails to Flynn through a cut-out during the Summer of 2016, and this was no idle speculation on my part.

Suddenly, my story seemed important—and ominous.

Meantime

U.S. prosecutor in Manhattan to join office of Robert Mueller, who is overseeing the Trump-Russia inquiry https://t.co/6QBJs35jci

— NYT Metro (@NYTMetro) July 1, 2017

I hadn't seen the actual text of the request for voter info until that response from Mississippi, and I gotta say it makes these "refusals" a lot less impressive since it specifically asks only for that information which is already publicly available per state law. All of these press releases announcing that no private information will be shared with the commission are essentially saying "we won't provide what we haven't been asked for." Yes it's nice to see the Ohio Secretary asserting that their elections are not affected by widespread voter fraud, but beyond that this narrative that states are pushing back against the commission, at least in terms of this request, strikes me as (if you'll excuse the phrase) fake news.

NOT EXCUSED

goodbye covfefe

Is there a new thread already.
Is there a new scandal for today?
With the turnover of events, the spinning like a 45 does it become dioffcult to name something like this that will cover an entire month without things becoming so last week?

I nominate "Tweet More" as the July thread title

Should I just do it now

Go nuts.

where is oppo dump

yeah tweet more is good

http://community.oppo.com/id/data/attachment/forum/201606/01/103533xief1i0ktd010pek.jpg

are those the people hwo made my dvd player? cool

Trump, July 2017: Tweet more