||| WARRIORS ||| CAVALIERS ||| NBA ||| FINALS ||| 2017 ||| PART ||| 3 |||

i recall nate silver saying is ELO model or whatever doesn't really treat playoff basketball as different from regular season

i very rarely bet sports, i think the last time i did was the finals 2 years ago. i just like thinking about it

NBA finals are kind of an interesting betting phenomenon tho, if you're a reasonably discerning and plugged-in fan there can probably be money to be made. combination of the better team usually wins + lots of media attention/terrible opinions by stephen a smith probably cause people to bet on the cavs when they shouldnt, making the warriors odds better

warriors odds are probably as good as they're gonna get because most books probably got a lot of money on the dubs last summer after KD signed

Just remember that LeBron has appeared in 7 consecutive finals but he doesn't have 7 rings.

if u add the number he has to the number jordan has he has 9

also remember that LeBron has yet to be on a team that would manage a .500 record without him

ehhhhhhh

lol he's literally been on 'superteams' since he left Cavs the first time

yeah any of those heat teams and kyrie/love would still easily be over .500 if lebron's place was taken by Arbitrary Defense Man

those Heat teams look a lot less good without Bron dragging Wade's corpse around with him. Cavs numbers w/o him have been pretty awful.

they're what, 4-18 in games Lebron sits?

dont think ur gonna get anyone on board w this one

team wins more games when best player plays, full story after this message

i don't think you understand how low the bar is for .500 in the east

hey I'm a Bucks fan, .500 in the East still feels like a feat to me

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19483056/closer-look-warriors-cavaliers-matchup

http://i.imgur.com/oOIkopj.png

jesus

KD was asked if he'll do better converting open shots than Harrison Barnes did in last year's Finals. "what do you think?" he responded.

— jacob c. palmer (@jacobc_palmer) May 30, 2017

z lowe on TT
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19491943/zach-lowe-cleveland-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-becoming-elite-role-player-nba

― Spottie, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:11 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is really good

tho lowe describing thompsons floater as silky is a bit much

i'm finding it hard to have much of a rooting interest in either of these teams. i guess i'll lean towards lebron becoming the goat he was born to be but it seems like such a long shot.

anyways imo lebron is the goat and i'm sticking to dubs in five

ya i dont really care just want to see some stuff

lebron didnt prove it already last year?

lol it's true my only preferred champ is Messy D xp

bron proved it last year but the dubs are so much better this year it wld be even more proving it

yea if Bron somehow pulls this off he's 100% the goat, instead of like 75% or whatever he is now

imo hes at 35% GOAT rn

if he wins hell be at 85% goat

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/5/30/15707478/lebron-james-defense-strategy-cavaliers-warriors-nba-finals-2017

538 saying it's 90/10

― frogbs, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:13 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cavs in 6

by the final two minutes of game 7

http://i.imgur.com/Xvk9049.png

lmao

i think if you're the cavs you just have to let draymond hoist, there's no route to victory if everyone's making outside shots and he's the most likely to go cold

yep

last year steph was hurt and dray missed an elimination game, bron was great but i'm not sure it proved much other than that he's great

I just want a nice competitive series which is what would have def occurred vs the Spurs if the desperate warriors hadn't on purpose taken out kawhi

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

12 dubs votes, 8 cavs votes, considerably closer than i'd have thought

sounds abt right for a site full of dummies homers and contrarians

more importantly, this means ilh thinks javale will get himself a ring.

congratulations to matt

Hm weird I set this poll to end tomorrow

lebron's already in your head bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd_SDGZvANk

good video! i may understand only half of it, but definitely the kind of basketball nerdity i find interesting

also shows the more subtle stuff Draymond is doing defensively

yeah wow that's great stuff

dray is an extremely special defender but contrary to what that guy says i have to believe that stuff is in the scheme. still, like he says, GS can do it better than any other team because dray is just that versatile and good

these are the kinds of little things that don't show up in the box score but add so much value to the team. our understanding of defense is so elementary because we can't easily quantify things like how often a guy switches to a higher-percentage defensive play compared to the average defender. shows up in plus-minus stats tho

they ought to take two weeks off between the semis and finals, like the super bowl, really build the buzz

But I don't want year round NBA.

im in sf today and there is hella fresh warriors gear getting around

the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).

― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh, man - I LOVE Hakeem. That he came from being a sub-7 foot soccer player to one of the top 5 best two-way centers ever, along with being a great dude, is just the best. His successive ownership of David Robinson and then Shaq in the '95 playoffs is still one of my favorite runs of any player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKIQK2O9Lc