i really just hope its an epic finals cause otherwise whats the point of having two superteams
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
yea i don't want any chokers
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
in that same regard both teams have totally coasted up til now which is weird and adds an element of instability, like u cld see the dubs kinda freaking out when the spurs were torching them before they intentionally injured kawhi
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link
its like training to run a 4 hour marathon then suddenly having to do a six minute 26th mile
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link
this series is the ultimate challenge for bron and if he can do it he is the goat
yep
I agree that it'll probably be Warriors in 5 but I definitely think Bron will be the best player in the series
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
please no injuries for this series either
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
^^ injuries would only muddy up the results, which need to be crystal clear this time
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
stephen a smith changed his official prediction to dubs
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
yes very sad about that
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
i would genuinely encourage any posters here who are totally picking the cavs in good faith and not just because they're homers or anything to find your local bookie or log onto bovada and start printing money
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
don't worry I'm a homer though I do think cavs chances are higher than most people are giving them credit for
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
what are the odds rn? i would give the cavs at least 40% chance to win
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
right now it's warriors -240 which is 70/30. it opened at -260 or -270 i think
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
538 saying it's 90/10
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
dont forget friends, betting on sports is dumb for making money
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link
i don't gamble but 70/30 sounds ridiculous for a finals to me, let alone 90/10
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:14 PM (four seconds ago)
def, but every once in a while there's obvious money to be made. finals 2 years ago was pretty easy money for anyone paying attention.
70/30 seems like a very fair price, even if i think the warriors should probably be stronger favorites. don't think it's attractive enough to bet
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
90/10 is pretty far out but dont think anyones giving those odds, wonder what it was for that year the lakers beat the nets, had to have been one of the most lopsided matchups ever
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
538 is probably over-weighting the Cav's regular season after the ASB.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
havent read the 538 thing but that's probably right
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
yeah I'd take 70/30 for sure, but my book doesn't have a price on the series yet, lol
that said I do get a little suspicious of projection systems when they're dealing with superteams like this.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
main thing that 538 model doesn't account for iirc is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ playoff lebron ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
more or less
i recall nate silver saying is ELO model or whatever doesn't really treat playoff basketball as different from regular season
― marcos, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
i very rarely bet sports, i think the last time i did was the finals 2 years ago. i just like thinking about it
NBA finals are kind of an interesting betting phenomenon tho, if you're a reasonably discerning and plugged-in fan there can probably be money to be made. combination of the better team usually wins + lots of media attention/terrible opinions by stephen a smith probably cause people to bet on the cavs when they shouldnt, making the warriors odds better
warriors odds are probably as good as they're gonna get because most books probably got a lot of money on the dubs last summer after KD signed
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
Just remember that LeBron has appeared in 7 consecutive finals but he doesn't have 7 rings.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link
if u add the number he has to the number jordan has he has 9
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
also remember that LeBron has yet to be on a team that would manage a .500 record without him
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
ehhhhhhh
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
lol he's literally been on 'superteams' since he left Cavs the first time
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
yeah any of those heat teams and kyrie/love would still easily be over .500 if lebron's place was taken by Arbitrary Defense Man
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
those Heat teams look a lot less good without Bron dragging Wade's corpse around with him. Cavs numbers w/o him have been pretty awful.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
they're what, 4-18 in games Lebron sits?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
dont think ur gonna get anyone on board w this one
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
team wins more games when best player plays, full story after this message
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
i don't think you understand how low the bar is for .500 in the east
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
hey I'm a Bucks fan, .500 in the East still feels like a feat to me
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19483056/closer-look-warriors-cavaliers-matchup
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/oOIkopj.png
jesus
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
KD was asked if he'll do better converting open shots than Harrison Barnes did in last year's Finals. "what do you think?" he responded.— jacob c. palmer (@jacobc_palmer) May 30, 2017
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
z lowe on TThttp://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19491943/zach-lowe-cleveland-cavaliers-tristan-thompson-becoming-elite-role-player-nba
― Spottie, Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:11 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is really good
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
tho lowe describing thompsons floater as silky is a bit much
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
i'm finding it hard to have much of a rooting interest in either of these teams. i guess i'll lean towards lebron becoming the goat he was born to be but it seems like such a long shot.
anyways imo lebron is the goat and i'm sticking to dubs in five
― Clay, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
ya i dont really care just want to see some stuff
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
lebron didnt prove it already last year?
― Spottie, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link
lol it's true my only preferred champ is Messy D xp
― Clay, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
bron proved it last year but the dubs are so much better this year it wld be even more proving it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
yea if Bron somehow pulls this off he's 100% the goat, instead of like 75% or whatever he is now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link
imo hes at 35% GOAT rn
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
if he wins hell be at 85% goat
this team is for sure more fun to watch than the laker superteam i grew up with and all of the lebron teams imo
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link
was the laker team the aforementioned malone/payton "era"?
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:41 (six years ago) link
hmm i guess they only became a 'superteam' when they added malone/payton. prior to that it was just kobe/shaq and good role players, huh. but yes the threepeat lakers team
― 龜, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link
the second bulls threepeat team is still my ultimate superteam, lots of fun dudes on that squad. i'm sure they were immensely hateable outside Illinois.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
I prefer the 1st Bulls 3peat! Younger MJ, Ho Grant, BJ, Pax, Levingston, Scott Williams, Craig Hodges, still felt like an underdog team. Or at least hadn't had the "dynasty" tag slapped on with it's presumption of inevitability.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link
ya young(er) jordan was the shit too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
oh yeah i prefer the first bulls threepeat team myself, i just didn't consider them a superteam in the same way. overcoming the pistons, ostracizing isiah thomas, finishing off the magic/worthy lakers, arguably singlehandedly denying championships to ewing/miller/barkley/malone/stockton/payton, true magnificence.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:41 (six years ago) link
i was glad that during jordan's retirement the dude who won was Hakeem, he was my favorite NBAer outside of Chicago. I liked Drexler too.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link
ya hakeem was rad, super fun to watch and an a+ guy too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
hmm
In his autobiography, Living the Dream, Olajuwon mentions an intriguing draft trade offered to the Rockets that would have sent Clyde Drexler and the number two pick in the 1984 NBA draft from Portland in exchange for Ralph Sampson.[17] Had the Rockets made the deal, Olajuwon states the Rockets could have selected Michael Jordan with the number two pick to play alongside Olajuwon and Drexler, who had established chemistry playing together during their Phi Slama Jama days in college.
― nomar, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
wow
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 23:56 (six years ago) link
there's an alternate history i wouldn't have minded living in
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link
re: Matt Moore article. Good stuff, and I love the term "gentlemen's sweep!"
― DJI, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 00:50 (six years ago) link
Bay Area billionaires out in abundance
If you see this anywhere else but the Bay Area... they bitin #DUBNATION pic.twitter.com/lD6aNfH6SF— Fall Up Focus (@SBFocus) June 13, 2017
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:40 (six years ago) link
― lag∞n, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 7:37 PM (three hours ago)
the greatness of post-miami lebron has kind of given me greater appreciation for second threepeat era jordan tbh
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 14 June 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
Final playoff plus-minus leaders: 1. Steph Curry +2452. Draymond Green +2283. LeBron James +1954. Klay T +1925. Kevin Durant +177— Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) June 13, 2017
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 05:51 (six years ago) link
agree re: Hakeem. I should go back and watch those 94, 95 playoffs, I was still in MJ-mourning mode at the time. Such a beautiful player to behold.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 05:56 (six years ago) link
the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:04 (six years ago) link
I'm still tickled by Stephs 8 reb/game in the finals. Seeing a smaller dude jump into a group of bigs and snag the ball is like watching a squirrel steal someone's half-eaten sandwich and running up a tree at a picnic.
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:12 (six years ago) link
yah he was beastin
― Spottie, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 06:39 (six years ago) link
how did he even do that crazy, cavs really needed to dominate the boards to have a chance, and the did not
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 13:36 (six years ago) link
yea that was ridiculous
steph curry grabbing more boards than tristan thompson, rip cavs
― marcos, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 13:43 (six years ago) link
that was great/bizarre to see
― Nhex, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link
im in sf today and there is hella fresh warriors gear getting around
― micah, Wednesday, 14 June 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
the dream is my fav all time (non warrior).― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Spottie, Wednesday, June 14, 2017 6:04 AM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Oh, man - I LOVE Hakeem. That he came from being a sub-7 foot soccer player to one of the top 5 best two-way centers ever, along with being a great dude, is just the best. His successive ownership of David Robinson and then Shaq in the '95 playoffs is still one of my favorite runs of any player.
― TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 16 June 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKIQK2O9Lc
― down that brown path (Spottie), Friday, 23 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link