Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors

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That is so utterly shameless that it's kind of impressive

JRN, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link

That's gotta be some algorithm, right? If it's a person rather than a computer making these connections they should charge thousands per shirt and call it art

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

I like the 69 Love Songs shirt (while agreeing that it looks nothing like the cover to 69 Love Songs, obv)

soref, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

an app where you take a picture of your shits before flushing and it sends you a $50 closest cover match record with inset of the shit you sent us

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

you will own so many copies of Further Down The Spiral

Sufjan Grafton, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

there was a time, the used cd stores could have really used that app

mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

That is so utterly shameless that it's kind of impressive

Indeed.

Austin, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link

I have a shirt I bought at Ross a few years ago because the pattern resembled the cover of "No New York" :/

sarahell, Friday, 26 May 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link

In the 80s I had a blue and white plaid flannel that I adored because the squares were so large it looked like something Jaime Hernandez would draw for a Love & Rockets character.

https://frivolousnow.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/img1951.jpg

pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Friday, 26 May 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

^Maggie Minus Garfield

JRN, Friday, 26 May 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

haha

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 May 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Some prime Alan Partridge in this article
http://bedfordandbowery.com/2017/06/new-east-village-record-store-will-be-like-flight-club-but-for-records/

"Sorge says the impetus for the store is partly a response to the “vinyl resurgence” underway, and also a sense that contemporary music is not well stocked in record stores, which tend to be dominated by a “pony-tailed, Dylan-loving old guard” which caters heavily to Led Zeppelin and Beatles fans but not those of Nirvana or the Pixies or more recent work."

I was hoping they would say something like Foo Fighters : Only the band Nirvana could've been.

"They’ve been posting finds to their Instagram as they go — “everything from Nas to Jawbreaker to De La Soul and a bunch of stuff we picked up in Japan like the Smiths and the White Stripes and Nirvana and the Roots. We’re all over the place, as long as it’s contemporary, and I use ‘contemporary’ very loosely. Indie rock or anything past the ’80s.”

The shop will be located at 221 E. 10th Street, between First and Second Avenue. The storefront will be small and intimate — “a little sub-street-level place,” said Sorge — and the hope is that it will serve as a community and gathering place, “like Flight Club, but for records.”

Sorge and Porges are eschewing the dusty, rummage-bin atmosphere of the stereotypical record shop in favor of a cleaner, more modern aesthetic. Boles Studio, which supplied furniture for Etsy’s offices among others, is building the record bins."

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

Nirvana and Pixies are further away from now than the beatles and zep were when I was 17 in 1990

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

otm

it's the flattening of time that happens when you age. the stuff I remember being on the classic rock station when I was a kid was barely a decade old

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

has the station changed since though?

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

lol aside from adding select REM and U2 cuts, I doubt it

sleeve, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

they play nirvana now iirc

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

nirvana and elvis, back and forth forever

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link

oh there's no way they play elvis

I just installed their app since the website's playlist/streaming stuff was useless

it's 99% 70s/80s stuff, with the newest inclusions two Guns n' Roses songs, Soundgarden (Black Hole Sun, of course) and a song by Collective Soul (?!?)

there are about five .39 Special or Van Halen songs for every one of those, though

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

.38 Special is only one hundredth of a percent older?

sarahell, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

ooh good typo joke

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

that is the second reference to .38 special ive seen today. Never heard them.

Odysseus, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

all their songs are actually misremembered hits of other bands -- you know, where someone plays you a handful of songs and you're like "yeah, that one is by the Eagles, this one is by Foreigner, this is Lynyrd Skynyrd" and it turns out you were completely wrong and they're all by this band you've never heard of

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

So... out of business in six months?

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 June 2017 02:25 (six years ago) link

first rule of this record store is you don't talk about the record store

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 June 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

Done!

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 29 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

God, that Limited to One thing. I checked out the Instagram and it's, like, posting Alkaline Trio 45s and third rate Morrissey albums.

If that shit is "Fight Club, but for records" I hope it's one of those super violent fights where there's not a clear winner because all the participants died in the fight.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link

Just reading that article and looking at the Instagram profile. Yuck.

I need to wash my hands or something. I feel gross now.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link

Good god, I shut down my computer and went to play guitar, but all I could think of was how infuriating that Limited to One bullshit is. Through their various outlets, they're all like, "be punk, be DIY." But then they go on to regurgitate the ethos of the exact opposite of that philosophy.

I mean, jeez. This is like scum of the earth level status as far as I can tell. Fuck these people.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

it's Flight Club not Fight Club. I was informed its a 'sneakers store'

Odysseus, Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link

another thing that has made my blood boil lately is that the VINYL ME PLEASE editions of some records are becoming more valuable than other pressings. i think the record collecting community should all come together and agree that blacklist any and all of these n00b editions.

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

but.... are they better pressings, or just some dumb "limited" release? genuinely curious, not familiar w/them

sleeve, Thursday, 29 June 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

If they're pressed on colored/picture disc vinyl, they are inherently inferior. Doesn't matter about the size of the pressing run.

Austin, Thursday, 29 June 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

generally ltd run colored, but sometimes special like the remaster

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 29 June 2017 23:55 (six years ago) link

So it looks like they're using the same matrix #/plates on the War on Drugs... so nice, worn out plates and inferior grade vinyl. Noice!

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 30 June 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

haha good catch

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

I'm down with the 45 rpm thing but fuck a colored vinyl

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

see also: 4 different color vinyl options for the Snowy Red/Carol reissue 7"

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link

Every time a new release comes out on colored vinyl, I go out of my way to make sure I don't get the colored version. Colored/picture disc vinyl is one of the biggest shams of all time. Anybody who claims to be into vinyl "because it sounds better" and then goes on to seek out these colored and picture disc pressings is so fucking bamboozled. I'd feel bad for them if they didn't create their own quagmire.

Austin, Friday, 30 June 2017 01:07 (six years ago) link

where does it end? how long till vinyl me please offers hot stampers?

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 30 June 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/06/30/vinyl-records-are-so-popular-that-sony-plans-to-make-them-again/

In 1989, Sony Music decided to stop producing the outdated, cumbersome records. Since then, music has enjoyed many formats, including the compact disc, the digital MP3 and, finally, streaming.

Somehow, though, the vinyl record hung on. Now, after a 28-year hiatus, Sony announced it will resume production of the vinyl record.

The details are scant, but the pressing plant will be in a factory southwest of Tokyo, CNN Money reported. It’s unclear what genres of music the company will be producing.

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Vinyl record sales have been skyrocketing. More than 9.2 million records were sold in 2014, according to Time. In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988, pulling in $416 million, Fortune reported.

They even gave digital a run for its money. As The Post’s Thomas Heath wrote in December, “In Britain, vinyl sales ($3.02 million) — those petroleum-based discs that you hold gingerly by the edges — eclipsed digital music downloads ($2.6 million) for week 48 of this year.”

“That a format nearly a century old generated 3.6 percent of total global revenues is remarkable,” wrote NPR’s Andrew Flanagan of the vinyl record’s performance in 2016. And “vinyl could account for up to 18% of all physical music revenue this year,” CNN Money said, citing a recent report by consulting firm Deloitte.

i actually had to stop collecting vinyl just as i was getting started because i ended up moving not once, not twice, but about half a dozen times across two different countries, which kind of makes me sad, as ever since i've lived with minimal things because i don't have a stable place and no place feels like home

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

“That a format nearly a century old generated 3.6 percent of total global revenues is remarkable,” wrote NPR’s Andrew Flanagan of the vinyl record’s performance in 2016. And “vinyl could account for up to 18% of all physical music revenue this year,” CNN Money said, citing a recent report by consulting firm Deloitte.

I like the elision from "3.6% of total global revenues" to "18% of all physical music revenue". Very slick.

This is nicely done, too:

In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988...

What were the sales totals for LPs in 1988, though? I bet they were significantly more than 12 million.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

http://static.spin.com/files/140516-vinyl-riaa.jpg

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

that looks like maybe 20 million? hard to tell

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link

hey look what else I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival

sleeve, Friday, 30 June 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

Looks like about 50 million, compared to 150 million CDs.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

You GUYS, I just put out some rare Texas Is The Reason vinyls that I picked up on my buying trip to Jakarta last month. Get on over here!

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19510360_10156007504502137_2046837864419874975_n.jpg?oh=150aa9f643c45ce34b7e80af83a4f720&oe=59C49A23

scott seward, Friday, 30 June 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

In 2015, that number reached nearly 12 million, Hugh McIntyre wrote in Forbes. That year’s sales were the highest since 1988...

What were the sales totals for LPs in 1988, though? I bet they were significantly more than 12 million.

― grawlix (unperson), Friday, June 30, 2017 9:52 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're getting into more advanced math because you need to account for inflation, which in itself has different theories of ways of doing it

i mean...in 2015, i'm assuming that $416 million number is revenue

in 1988, revenue was $532 million and in 1989, $220 million, which is good enough for me (accounting for inflation, 2015 is up by ~$18 million); deal in cost of production/labour/wholesale and things get more complicated

revenue data: https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/

and if you want more fun, cpi inflation calculator: https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 30 June 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

why the heck doesn't that chart include cassette tapes?!

mh, Friday, 30 June 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link


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