Remake/Remodel: DC Rebirth so you don't have to

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spoil away, aldo, i don't think any of us give enough of a fuck to worry about it

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

we can add one-legged lois to the ever-growing roster of dismembered dc comics characters, i guess

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:16 (six years ago) link

Superboy Prime, the universe puncher from Infinite Crisis.

Since nobody else has read the Flash/Batman 'Button' crossover, the final 2 pages of the last part are 1) a blue hand picks up the Rorschach badge while the "perception of time" speech between Laurie and Doc Manhattan is recited and 2) the badge resolves out to be part of the Superman shield. There appears to be fairly strong analysis of the design indicating exactly which Superman's it is, none of which are the Action/Superman/Trinity/JL Supes.

Other circumstantial hints are that the one "pulling the strings" has erased 10 years of continuity, with the Rebirth event marking 10 years since Superboy Punched The Universe, and that in Legion Of Three Worlds and Adventure Comics it's made clear that Superboy Prime is in his parent's basement on a paradoxical Earth Prime reading the comics that describe the rest of the DCU so he might be the only person in the DCU aware that Watchmen is a comic that co-exists with Superman comics (even the Psycho-Pirate doesn't).

It can't go well.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:31 (six years ago) link

gnnnnnnnnnghhhhhhh

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:32 (six years ago) link

Oh, and the other news from Flash is that Hypertime is in continuity again.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:33 (six years ago) link

they're really taking the long way round to writing an in-continuity batman/rorschach teamup huh

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:34 (six years ago) link

Actually Hypertime goes a long way to explaining Why Superman, and also Why Titans and Why Green Arrow.

But not Why aldo? Nothing explains that.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:39 (six years ago) link

after exasperatedly bringing up the concept of hypertime so much in this thread i feel somehow guilty that this is what they're using it for

be careful what you wish for i guess

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 10:41 (six years ago) link

i'm sorta reading these things but generally not following or caring

you're reading the way geoff johns is writing by the looks of it

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

sadly

Wait, who's the SECOND dick?

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link

He's Dick as well. Nightwang is Dick and Titans Nightwing is Dick. They have different costumes and everything.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:59 (six years ago) link

Juggling multiple Dicks is hard.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

Are they literally different dicks, or are they they same dick, but no one bothered checking with each other?

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

take it to tmi guys

I think they're supposed to be the same Dick but they're clearly not because they're dressed differently (eg one has a little cape). Dick looks different when he's older.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

Ain't it the truth (defeated sigh).

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

guys, just so you don't make the same mistake DC does, "dick" is slang for male genitalia
just fyi

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

quite the boner they made there

mh, Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

stuck their cock in it, as it were

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

penis

🎵 it's grey pubic now, stoner blue 🎵 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link

I just want to make it clear that I'm clear on the distinction between discussing multiple instances of the character Dick Grayson and discussing male genitalia. Clearly, there's a vas deferens.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

at an unprecedented moment of good will for the wonder woman character, the bigwigs at DC decide to cash in with a groundbreaking special sure to please new fans and win them over into becoming ongoing comic buyers

http://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL046492%3Ftype%3D1

http://i.imgur.com/AVBpSkn.png

http://i.imgur.com/szr6BqM.png

http://i.imgur.com/LMWv1XY.png

SYNERGY

so confused

Nhex, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

I so misread that "kicked some rectal" thing at first.

Mr. Crackpots (WilliamC), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link

uhh yeah

mh, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

they're just kickin it, doing butt stuff. wonder woman and the tazmanian devil. nothing to see here.

mh, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

to be clear: that book came out THIS WEEK

is this the real life

total eclipse of the beefheart (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

"F from Professor Bechdel" -- how rude

face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Friday, 23 June 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

lol at The Comics Journal review:

Lobo/Road Runner Special #1: Fuck these comics; $4.99.

and further

I dunno, I just have a really visceral aversion to these DC serious-but-funny takes on Warner Brothers and Hanna-Barbara cartoon properties, which seem designed primarily to coax oh my god such a weird idea ha ha ha ha ha ha reactions from credulous entertainment news sources that translate to added visibility, theoretically leading to impulse sales from curious and/or potentially-ironic-but-probably-assertively-‘sincere’-and-anyway-still-buying-so-it’s-exactly-the-same-thing-as-far-as-the-publisher-is-concerned consumers of popular ‘geek’-categorized franchise content. Hey, it worked for Archie. The Flintstones book is supposed to be actually good, and, as we know, only one (arguably) actually-good title is needed to valorize the whole line’s calculation, given the curve on which these corporate funster efforts are typically graded. Whoops, I just fell into their clutches by even talking about it! Still, NONETHELESS, the Lobo/Road Runner book is drawn by Kelley Jones, and it’s nice to see his work, and to know he’s getting paid. Maybe It’s Good (TM).

um. someone's gotta chill. punisher meets archie shaped a generation, yo

Nhex, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

I can roll with this latest wacky crossover iteration much more easily than I can John Constantine vs. Evil Orko.

President Buttstuff (Old Lunch), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

oh god i forgot about Evil Orko. i love it

Nhex, Friday, 23 June 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

i just read the lobo/roadrunner thing and it's bad btw
tho nowhere near as bad as wonder woman/Tasmanian devil; that thing is garbage

Why is the comics press so snarky

face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

inferiority complex

Nhex, Friday, 23 June 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

comics are terrible

bonamasso guitara (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 June 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link

the kelley jones art is really bad

season of mists > lobo/roadrunner is a sad career arc

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 23 June 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

If you had told me that in 2017 Aquaman and Super Sons would be two of the best comics DC or Marvel were publishing I would have laughed in your face. But here we are.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

The Batman/Elmer Fudd comic is... quite good, and maybe better than anything King's done on the solo title? The art is *really* nice.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link

(This is a variation on EZ Snappin's previous post I guess.)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

Your entire post is in English, and I understand all of its constituent words, but for some reason my brain is refusing to process any of the things you just said.

Duane Quarterdump (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

Wow, it does sound good - http://www.cbr.com/review-batman-elmer-fudd-one-shot/

face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

I have to respect Warner's openness to pushing the envelope so far with the classic WB/Hanna-Barbera characters. I imagine Disney/Marvel would not follow a similar path with "Deadpool vs. Uncle Scrooge" or something (though I know there have plenty of "Uncle Scrooge" comics, and I don't know how funky they've gotten).

On a similar note, I recently saw "The Lego Batman Movie." It was good, but left me a bit nonplussed at how "non-canonical" a take it was... almost like "fake Batman," made by folks who are familiar with the basic Batman elements, but not interested at all in staying true to tradition. The movie's characterizations are very far afield; and it presents an alternative history of Batman that alludes to his many familiar incarnations (going back to the beginning), yet retcons Robin out of the history altogether. And while I'm no Batman purist, I found it took me out of the movie. For example - everyone in the Lego world remembers Batman in his swingin' 1960s incarnation, and a brief clip is even shown of Adam West in costume (to drive the point home); but the viewer isn't supposed remember the fact that Robin was also in the series?

I was expecting something more like the direct-to-DVD Lego Batman/Justice League movies, which have lots of humor and in-jokes, but are otherwise "standard" stories that fit well enough within the DC canon (just for a younger audience). And while "The Lego Batman Movie" is more overtly absurdist and ironic in its execution, it's not all played for a joke... it has the standard action movie beats, peril and resolution, etc.

I guess my point is that while it is impressive WB/DC were open to such an alternative take on a key property, it didn't quite "work" for me as a viewer with a basic understanding of Bat-history (and not even as a "rabid Batman fan," which I'm not).

face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

I think it's just a version of Batman who is also a Lego guy, and is for children who have no idea what any of those previous things are but have a general idea of Batman? All the references are for older kids and adults to pick up and add some value, not for the primary audience.

retcons are retroactively changing continuity, it seems like Batman being three inches tall and made of plastic would be a much bigger retcon than not having a sidekick

mh, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

I suppose, though it retains a ton of other elements from the "real" continuity (a cameo by the Justice League; a bunch of first-, second- and third-rate Batman villains who are painstakingly taken from canonical sources; etc.). Weird to have a Bat-world where Harley Quinn and Bane are familiar nemeses; Barbara Gordon is older than usual and taking over as commissioner, has never been Batgirl, and Batman has a crush on her; and Dick Grayson is a young orphan whom Batman is just now meeting...

face it, tiger... you just hit middle age (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link


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