The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

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Maybe it's good David Lynch, but it's not good Twin Peaks. Perhaps once everyone gets back to Twin Peaks and normal Agent Cooper returns... he anchored the show. When he's adrift, it's just too hard to watch.

― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 01:07 (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree re cooper (if he's in it, he needs to be in it), but the essence of twin peaks was how groundbreaking it was at the time. it reset expectations of what can be done on television. if this new show were good twin peaks, it wouldn't be much else.

imo this show does an immaculate job of being good-twin-peaks by being like nothing we've ever seen (and not feeling in any way like a throwback or a lazy reunion), while promising to continue the world and the story.

The only thing I didn't like was evilcoop saying "i'm supposed to be sucked back into what they call the black lodge". too on the nose, sounds like Frost's book, blah.

haha yeah I also thought that was a bit *too* much exposition

xp

he said "it's raining Post Toasties" clearly this is the line that the new series hinges on

i think Lynch is struggling with using technology in TP world and Lucy not being able to wrap her head around cell phones is the personification of this. that WIN95 style graphics was A+.

― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 08:03 (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe i'm trying too hard (again) but are they also telling us the town of twin peaks hasn't moved on but the show (and the world) has? like saying to the viewer "this is why we're spending more time outside the town now"?

major briggs floating head

why don't i remember this? i'm going back through the episodes and i still can't find it.

nm got it

Sound design is incredible. Eyeless woman scene was great

Was the eyeless woman Caroline Earle?

Finished all 4 and - man - this is all I could've asked for: scary, hilarious and just plain beautiful to look at and listen to.

Bad Cooper sounding like a '50s Martian during the jail convo scene lol.

eyeless woman had a name in the credits that wasn't anything thta related to anything before (I'd thought she was maybe going to wind up being josie). also, ronette pulaski was credited as 'american woman' or something

well i guess zoller seitz was otm

god the slicing noises when the woman with no eyes gestures at her neck are so unsettling, not helped by the "two steps forward, one step back" editing rhythm

just finished the first two episodes. it was really good. i love the humor in the glass box. yes for a good chunk of time we are watching someone stare at an empty box waiting for something to happen. trenchant.

really loving Evil Cooper. he looks alot like Bruce Campbell!

James took me by surprise at the end. i had no idea that was him!

did anyone else notice the zig-zags were painted red? i thought they had always been black before. also i loved having the zags shifting up and down in 3d.

also Hawk when he was walking through the woods there was some weird cocoon or something in one of the trees but he gets distracted by his phone before he can notice it.

.... ok not a cocoon just a weird looking tree

i lost my shit at "There they are, Albert. Faces of stone."

finally watched episode 4, agree that it really starts settling in here. great scene with evil coop and cole and albert.

I'm not minding the other bands at the roadhouse, but I am missing Julee Cruise. Does anyone know if she was tapped to be back at some point?

(she was listed as returning in a welcome to twin peaks post from last year; but who knows. she appears to be suffering from some illness, if her FB profile is any indication)

First two episodes are some dark shit

The end of the 2nd was great though.

"He's still cool. James has always been cool."

she appears to be suffering from some illness, if her FB profile is any indication

Still can't believe they were able to film Coulson in time for this, she passed away almost two years ago

What is this other doppelganger now

I love that w a cast of like 200 KM still plays at least 3 characters

re the happy endings discussion in the non-spoiler thread: is it possible that laura and leland could also be socket-sucked into the real world and be reunited with sarah totally bob-free? there'll always be the incest-rapey overtones but it would still qualify as a david lynch happy ending, even if the final scene is the two of them yelling "HELLOOOOOO" at vending machines

The opening sequence in ep 3 was really wonderful. The whole thing with the eyeless woman, the way it looked, and was edited, the sounds and weird contraptions, it all reminded me of Lynch's student films and Eraserhead.

The show lost me a bit with amnesiac Coop's interminable wanderings in LV, and the sheriff's office stuff was kind of dumb. I was roped back in when it got back to Gordon and Albert. Their meeting with evil Coop was perfect.

I also like having a different dream pop act at the end of each episode.

Agree with everything you say except that I didn't like the purple scenes with the eyeless woman and liked even less when they climbed out and emerged on top of the metal box. Although the eyeless woman pulling the lever was pure eraserhead.

A lot of this looks much more like Lynch's paintings, rather than his previous film work.

I like this a lot. The "funny" scenes are the weakest. The chocolate bunnies scene with hawk and Lucy and Andy was a total misfire as were the scenes of cooper with his wife and kid at breakfast and the whole casino thing which was, frankly, boring. The only good thing there was the dirty old woman in velour. Didn't believe the scenes where they give him his winnings. Who was that actor who played the casino manager though? He was good.

And it has to be said that Lynch himself is an excellent actor. His scenes are brilliant.

The only black actor in the show being a hot chick with her tits out though was.... Not good.

To say the least.

otm

xp casino manager was Brett Gelman.

Before the series began I joked that no one should be allowed to get through Twin Peaks without dealing with some bad scenes, but Lynch's Chrysta Ball fixation is pretty embarrassing, especially having Albert ogle her ass. Highlights of 3 & 4 for me were the purple world, Michael Cera, and crying Bobby.

Ernie Hudson is in it at some point, probably for 30 seconds as a ghost or grotesque in the corner of a scene. It's not good but I don't expect different at this stage. Same for all these old dudes paired up with beautiful young women (even my name is earl's brother)

I thought jade was fun tho & wonder if we'll see more of her with the whole vegas subplot of these criminals being after the joneses. It's hilarious (and kind of a litmus test for people's tolerance for this show's style) that dougie has drastically changed his appearance and is showing signs of serious brain damage but everyone's only reaction is to get slightly pissed off at him

I hope Naomi Watts gets some substantial stuff to do once the penny drops that this isn't dougie.

The contents of cooper's car being cocaine--machine gun--dog leg was fucking great, albert's "what, no cheese and crackers?" line was not. He's one character that could do with a punch-up from the one of the Harley peytons & Tricia Brocks of the world. Didn't quite get his line about a truckload of Valium either, unless it was in reference to Bell's acting style/mannerisms

Oh and the "certain woman" they need to talk to is 100% Diane right

lol @ Wally Brando

Cera did a pretty great job with that

I can help but think about how subtly tired and ill Miguel Ferrer as Albert seems whenever he's on screen. Poor guy.

can't*

When Tammy asked him if he was feeling well it seemed like they were acknowledging his real life sickness the way they did with the log lady (and possibly Truman, if it turns out ontkean's pulling out was due to health issues)

I've got a crush on Ben Rosenfield.

Alfred that was my one of viewing partner's big takeaways as well

That's all I have to report.

one episode in.

I love the B&W sequences: same lighting and texture as Eraserhead.

man y'all are really selling the comedy scenes short. i'm still loling at "HELLOO!"

i lost my shit at "There they are, Albert. Faces of stone."

― ciderpress, Monday, May 22, 2017 7:42 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, tbh i could watch a whole show of just gordon and albert

some random thoughts:

- Dougie "manufactured" (idk how) by Bob as a way to trap Cooper upon his scheduled release from the Black Lodge? This would also explain who those dudes were that wanted to kill Dougie right after Cooper came back (ie, Bob's thugs/minions). I do love that Mr. Jackpots is basically Senor Droolcup redux.
- the chocolate bunnies Lucy/Hawk exchange felt like a meta in-joke about the bunnies from IE. ("It's not the bunnies!".... "Is it the bunnies?")
- Wally Brando a riff/inversion of James' James Dean schtick?
- what is a blue rose again, some "top secret" symbol? I remember this comes up in FWWM

my favorite part about the james reveal in the bar was the comment "...he doesn't talk so much anymore" - shelly's comment? either way it was like an acknowledgment that yes he is in this, and yes he is a very bad actor

also: 1&2 def front-loaded w horror and dread, 3 felt like Eraserhead level wtf-ness with the extended leaving-the-Black-Lodge sequence, and 4 primarily about the extra-banal hijinks and slow-burn "laffs"

no idea where this is going, which is great and one of the principal joys of Lynch in general imo

also lol @ John Ennis' 10-second role