The stars turn: the TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread

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The thing in the David Blaine cage

everything about that box was delicious. maybe i'm analysing too hard, but i thought lynch was either (a) telling the audience to persevere because something will happen soon or (b) taking the piss out of viewers who've been waiting for this show to start and having no idea what to expect.

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 22 May 2017 11:48 (six years ago) link

There's the log lady, bobby's tears and the roadhouse and I think we will get to an emotional centre at some point

i mean not that i want to set an expectation on this but yeah, it seems we're coming into it from a real sharp angle

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 12:08 (six years ago) link

Some of the quibbles here aren't incorrect upon thinking about it, but none of that really registered while watching these. First and foremost this is utterly hypnotizing. Totally sucked in.

circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link

And I'm not sure how alienating this is? I was watching this with a handful of people who had little or no connection to the show and they were glued to it too.

circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link

i don't know if this is precisely the case but i do appreciate that evil dale seems stuck between cooper's actual personality, believing that he is truly undercover, and being an unencumbered source of evil, basically just like leland

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

Some of the quibbles here aren't incorrect upon thinking about it, but none of that really registered while watching these. First and foremost this is utterly hypnotizing. Totally sucked in.

I went back to remind myself of how it opened and from the moment I saw that slowed-down shot of the screaming girl from the pilot I was enthralled all over again & ended up rewatching all of parts 1-3 so yeah turns out I just love this

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:27 (six years ago) link

Part 3 with the pink planet, eyeless woman, ronette pulaski(! I think) on the sofa, the "mother" banging on the door, major briggs floating head, electrical sockets, rancid garmonbozia puke, dougie in the red room: a masterpiece

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

yeah, pretty much immediately in the pantheon of Great Lynch Sequences.

i loved Good Cooper materializing on the floor out of the smoke/socket and just kinda lying there smiling all dopey. hilarious.

circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link

ronette pulaski(! I think)

Yup, that was Phoebe Augustine, though she's mysteriously only credited as "American Girl"

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

carel struycken was credited as "?????????"

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

Yeah I saw that & was like wut - also Walter olkewicz is credited as jean-michel renault, al strobel as phillip gerard and carel struycken as ?????

Part 3 is so fat trout/above the convenience store that I forgot to include some of the incredibly weird bits in that sequence, like "119!"

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

Xp

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link

snap

early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 22 May 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link

I hope we only get brief shots of renault tending bar & it's never explained

btw how many other nerds thought of Richard & Linda Thompson during the opening sequence of the premiere?

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:00 (six years ago) link

meee

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link

a la senor droolcup, i hope it becomes canon to refer to reactive baby dougie cooper as "mr. jackpots"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

HELLLOOOOO

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link

otm

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

everything about that box was delicious. maybe i'm analysing too hard, but i thought lynch was either (a) telling the audience to persevere because something will happen soon or (b) taking the piss out of viewers who've been waiting for this show to start and having no idea what to expect.

Whatever assorted narrative ends it serves, it's also part of his ongoing meta-narrative about cinema and perception, who's watching whom, etc. I love how he first shows you the box, and then the room from every angle, and then finally the perfectly-lit shot of the guy sitting on the couch, which is what "the box" sees. He loves pulling back the curtain on himself, showing how the magic is done, and then still making you go "wow" when he does the trick.

(David Foster Wallace would have loved the box, it feels like something out of a James Incandenza movie.)

Watched the first four episodes last night. Reminded me of when the X-Files moved from Vancouver to LA. Maybe it's good David Lynch, but it's not good Twin Peaks. Perhaps once everyone gets back to Twin Peaks and normal Agent Cooper returns... he anchored the show. When he's adrift, it's just too hard to watch.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

i'm glad it's not beholden to any idea of what Twin Peaks ~should be~, personally

circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

Yeah there will be some split on all of this between "Twin Peaks fans" and "David Lynch fans."

It was madness to expect a show called Twin Peaks to spend any time in Twin Peaks, I guess. So far it's CSI: South Dakota.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link

most quality cinema since Hollywood fell to pieces is "hard to watch" in some way

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link

i think they've been spending a pretty decent amount of time in twin peaks

needs more fat trout trailer park though

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link

this is the first slice of what Lynch envisions as an 18 hour movie, i'm sure we'll be spending more time in Twin Peaks

anyway, happy to let the dude do his own weird thing if it works and so far this works pretty well imo. much happier to have something like this than some lame DAMN FAN COFFEE fan service stuff.

xxp

circa1916, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link

I was hoping to read the plot synopsis on wikipedia butnto tehre yet - come on internet!

Violet Jynx, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

Maybe he should have called it Hooters.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

works on several levels

in a soylent whey (wins), Monday, 22 May 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

Found it hilarious that the dialog when Denise was talking to Gordon about Chrysta Bell's character sounded like it was from an episode of Decker.

Otherwise I loved this. The box, the opening scenes of episode 3 and bad coop vomiting in the car were exactly the kind of 'eat my fear' nightmare I was hoping for.

devvvine, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

obvious point, but i love how the box is really the camera. i loved that scene where the stoic top secret guy without emotions and the horny coffee delivery person start to get it on, with the big box/camera watching them, and the earth cameras in turn trained on the box camera. it was like a documentary about a documentary about a director filming a really weird porno

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

one cool thing about the sound design: when gordon and albert are having the conversation in ep 4 i thought something was wrong with my speakers whenever lynch spoke, but it's the metallic echo of his hearing aids

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

I've watched the first 4 eps, and unless I'm missing something, they haven't directly followed up to what was going on between those two guys in Las Vegas in episode 2, have they?

MarkoP, Monday, 22 May 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

afaik no

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link

He enjoys a Police Academy marathon every couple of months but that's about it.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

That was either one of the giant's clues or I posted in in the wrong thread.

human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 May 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

I think my favorite scene so far (aside from the thrill of the re-enacted 'sometimes my arms bend back' scene) was the entire beginning of episode 3 with the purple glitchy shit and the eyeless woman and the non-ronette pulaski. It looked new, and different, but having cooper in it made it feel firmly of-a-part. less enamoured with the scene once he and the woman were outside in the starless void but everything up to that was pretty thrilling.

akm, Monday, 22 May 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

i love how the box is really the camera

To push it a little farther, it's the camera and the screen at the same time. The watched watching the watchers. [mind-blown gif]

exactly!

there are so many new scenes that already seem like instant classics, but the entire mystery box setup hasn't left my mind since it first came on

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

also - i guess that evil force that came through the box and murdered the horny people is on the loose in south dakota now?

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

Love the box and Lynch's continual fascination with industrial set aesthetics. Made me think of Silent Hill which Lynch influenced

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Monday, 22 May 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

Have finished through ep 4 now and am over the moon about this, feel like I could paint some shovels gold I'm so happy.

sciatica, Monday, 22 May 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

(David Foster Wallace would have loved the box, it feels like something out of a James Incandenza movie.)

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, May 22, 2017 3:01 PM (five hours ago)

I think this is really spot-on.

Chris L, Monday, 22 May 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link

The evil force from the box was Mike's arm's doppelganger, right?

Dan I., Monday, 22 May 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link

(haven't seen eps 3&4)

Dan I., Monday, 22 May 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

"I am the arm and I sound like this... *garbl garbl*" <3

Only just seen 1&2, but yeah, this is... quite something. Mind-blowing stuff, fantastic cinematography, and I watched it with headphones on. No wonder Lynch is doing sound design himself: superb how nearly every scene is layered with a deep drone, different from any other scene.

Patrick Fischler's role felt as if it could've been a straight continuation from his Mulholland Drive. In a suit now, but danger still looming, him dealing with someone you wouldn't ever want to deal with. Love that guy so much.

And then ending it with the Chromatics.. Boy, I'm probably not alone in this but that felt especially for me.

One random thought: with the X-Files reboot, after so many years, the use of modern technology was this big thing, I like that here it isn't. There's smart phones now, Bad Coop uses something like a tablet to get into the FBI system, but it's all very unassuming and 'normal', without emphasis on it.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

Catherine Coulson absolutely broke my heart. I've never seen anything like her emotion delivering those cryptic lines, and what it must have been like for her and Lynch to film them.

Chris L, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Yeah that was gut wrenching

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

xpost i thought bad coop's hacking scene was so great because of how unmodern the tech was! it had a 2000s era Windows logo on the side, and a really big "DOWNLOAD" button on the right side of the display, off-centered.

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 May 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link


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