i learned about this b/c my wife audibly gasped looking at her phone at about 7 a.m. while we were waking up. first thought was something happened at her job, second thought was something happened to trump.
this news was unwelcome, to say the least.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link
Michael B OTM. 7/4 riff is inspired.
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
Musically I have no problem with the song! But still.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link
I don't know what the lyrics are about, really, but I didn't think that was a concern for you.:)
― My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
Genuinely curious about the cavils!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link
I may be the only person who thinks Ultramega OK is their best album
The remastered version gives you a much stronger case.
― grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link
nah I still have a block with that song
I did only just realize how Zeppelin-y Big Dumb Sex is with that big old fat riff, which makes the song even funnier
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link
Is it just me or did he look very handsome on the "like a stone" video? That said I was never much of a fan of Soundgarden or Audioslave and I hated his Bond song in Casino Royale but I really respected him and liked him as a person... saw several interviews and fan videos of him instage joking with the audience and to my surprise he was not an asshole at all. I feel like most rockers from the late 80s early 90s were very unpleasant people.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
Not Cornell tho... so he was a talented guy, humble and charismatic and pretty good looking. A keeper all around... real shame he wasn't happy with his life, seemed like he had it all.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link
My modest obit
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link
Spoonman is about heroin right
― sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link
the only thing you got wrong is that cornell was the only credited writer the majority of those songs. respect to thayil but if you believe the band chris came in with many of those twisty riffs mostly formed.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
Oh I believe it.
I love Michael Beinhorn's pedigree -- Material's keyboardist producing this band!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link
xxxpost Moka, fyi Chris Cornell looked handsome in every waking moment of his adult life
dude was hot af
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:39 (six years ago) link
fuckin hot
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
remember in the mid 00's when he was suddenly super-tanned? even then
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
be still my ovaries
https://68.media.tumblr.com/7095b8a000a9bd1a822ac07703b231eb/tumblr_olcb9vuudJ1w4tfzvo1_400.gif
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:45 (six years ago) link
lolol
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
I think I've written about this previously on ILM, but back in the mid 90s I was in a band that briefly was being courted by a record label in southern California. The head of the label was pals with Chris Cornell and arranged for him to come down and hang out with us. We went out to dinner with Cornell and the label folks and then later hung out with him at his hotel room, mostly drinking beers, shooting the shit, goofing around. For some reason, we ended up watching Barbarella, which happened to be on the hotel tv. Anyway, Cornell was very nice to us, he was a chill, down-to-earth guy. We were of course very star struck. This was shortly after Superunknown came out, so pretty much the height of his career. There was really no reason why he should have to hang out with me and my band friends, but he was perfectly friendly and patient with us, and gave us some good advice about the record biz. I appreciated the fact that he was the one person we were interacting with that didn't come across like he was trying to sucker us in one way or another. He just seemed to really have his shit together and to be enjoying life.
One thing I remember is that in the record label guy's office there was a Christmas photo of Chris Cornell and his wife both in big garish Christmas sweaters with big smiles, very cute. It was nice to know he didn't take himself too seriously and could just be happy and silly, despite the heavy rocker image.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
wow that's awesome
he has always seemed very thoughtful. and i love his super dry sarcasm, he has a pretty killer sense of humor like a lot of guys from that scene
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
possibly the best gif ever, at least for my needs
https://68.media.tumblr.com/ad84d8f2408c29edd533be0ab7e85d3a/tumblr_o4bifeOogB1scx7dho1_400.gif
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
xps to crut, fwiw
Cornell on "Spoonman"
It's more about the paradox of who (Artis) is and what people perceive him as. He's a street musician, but when he's playing on the street, he is given a value and judged completely wrong by someone else. They think he's a street person, or he's doing this because he can't hold down a regular job. They put him a few pegs down on the social ladder because of how they perceive someone who dresses differently. The lyrics express the sentiment that I much more easily identify with someone like Artis than I would watch him play.[6]
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
speaking of Beinhorn, this bullshit was still floating around int he '90s:
Jack Endino: I’m not a big fan of the production. It’s okay. It’s kind of noisy now when I listen to it. The production captures a feel, which I think is good, but it’s an odd-sounding record if you listen to it with technical ears
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link
Yeah I really like him with the tan and the shorter hair.. its how I first saw how he looked like I think.
Moodles story confirms my suspicion that he was a really cool guy to be around and not a pretentious asshole like others in the scene.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link
lol 'my needs'
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
i don't think it's controversial to say that beinhorn's production was a little stilted, tho i think it mostly works
― call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
I can't hear how it's stilted.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
it is a bit odd-sounding, it sounded weird to my ears when it came out. Sounds great now.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
I think superuknown is the gold standard for 90s big budget rock production
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link
"Material keyboardist producing grunge band" is my idea of a fantastic idea.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link
the drums in particular are very loud and crunchy, almost distorted, guitars a bit de-emphasized from where they were on Badmotorfinger. It's unusual, but I like it.
― Moodles, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link
xxpost yes mookie my needs
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link
<3
― mookieproof, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:15 (six years ago) link
jeezus Down on the Upside was 1996? It feels so much later in my head.
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link
I remember when that came out it felt like there was already this subtle shift in the wind. Hard to put a finger on but I kinda wasn't surprised that was the last album (for a while), but it wasn't just them, more like a collective 'hmm...now what?' (Sadly, that ended up being the dregs of third-wave ska and nu-metal...)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 03:44 (six years ago) link
And swing. Don't forget the swing!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link
yeah ned otm - it was a weird period for a few years there
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link
i just called it high school
― j., Friday, 19 May 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
Michael Beinhorn is the producer in the infamous Hole drummer story btw, despite having been in material he seems to have been the epitome of the interventionist label producer
― fish louse (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 May 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
lol xp
― Spottie, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link
I remember when that came out it felt like there was already this subtle shift in the wind. Hard to put a finger on but I kinda wasn't surprised that was the last album (for a while), but it wasn't just them, more like a collective 'hmm...now what?' (Sadly, that ended up being the dregs of third-wave ska and nu-metal...)― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:44 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I imagine the Pumpkins losing Jimmy and Jonathan dying that summer cast a pall over it all, a year later all of the leading voices of the early 90s were dead, inactive, or broken up (except Pearl Jam).
― flappy bird, Friday, 19 May 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link
for pumpkins fans, maybe. idk that that really registered much w me anyway, pall-wise
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 04:37 (six years ago) link
i know i'm headed for the bottommmmmmm
― Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 May 2017 05:01 (six years ago) link
Been working on another tribute thing and finding I Awake to be really REALLY difficult to listen to this morning
― pickety third (stevie), Friday, 19 May 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Mailman is pretty underrated, basically a Queens of the Stone Age template.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:37 (six years ago) link
Every single song on Superunknown is really good and really distinct. A tremendous feat for a fifteen track album.
― chap, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:48 (six years ago) link
Goodbye little brother. You're folded in now I'll carry you inside me. Thank you bless you pic.twitter.com/YhkDHATS8t— Alain Johannes (@AlainJohannes) May 19, 2017
― how's life, Friday, 19 May 2017 10:50 (six years ago) link
That's nice. Not to derail, but decades ago friends from LA used to tell me stories about what a talent Alain Johannes was.
― The Pickety 33⅓ Policeman (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 May 2017 11:08 (six years ago) link
Agreed the new Ultramega Ok remaster is great
Speaking of Down on the Upside I was stuck yesterday at how good it is, it's really not much of a drop-off at all.... Though... One of it's best songs is not ruined but takes on a lot now :(
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 May 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link