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idk Soundgarden never sounded quite on the same level of bleak to me

Arguably it was more hiding in plain sight? I mean...Cornell *looked* great and was always undeniably there, 'present' in the moment. That kind of presence and image can, well, I don't want to say cover up a lot, but.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:29 (six years ago) link

they just always struck me as having a bit more self awareness of essentially being a classic rock band idk

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

A friend from my freshman year in college was a huge music nerd from Seattle and after returning from a trip home he brought back this warbly tape of 4-track demos from Cornell that was such a massive departure from Soundgarden at the time (Louder Than Love, Flower & the Screaming Life/Fopp reissue)... it was way more in line sonically with The Winding Sheet or what would become the blues/gospel songs off Temple of the Dog, but with lucid imaginative lyrics, experimental song structures and crazy guitar tunings played on his acoustic.

The only song I recognized coming to fruition from that tape was "Seasons" which showed up on the Singles OST. I'd love to hear those spooky, warbly demos again if any old school Seattle folks know what I'm talking about.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

that could be the tape he made in character for SINGLES, which is coming out as part of its deluxe reissue tomorrow

maura, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

Almost a decade ago, my wife and I hired a car to take us to the airport. The driver had just driven Cornell a few days prior, and said he was one of the most genuinely friendly people he'd had in his car, including everyone. I still remember his exact words: "Just a real gentle soul."

Rest in peace, man.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

Cornell *looked* great and was always undeniably there, 'present' in the moment. That kind of presence and image can, well, I don't want to say cover up a lot, but.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, May 18, 2017 8:29 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Think that's another reason he reminds me more of Hutchence now. 😞

nomar, Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

i've been listening to them pretty much constantly again ever since the reissue campaign got going, they were as big a part of my teenage years as any kid back then but it took until my thirties to realize just what cornell had put into those superunknown songs.

: (

j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

who will be the first to claim that the timbaland album is underrated?

veronica moser, Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

me

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

well, not underrated per se, but i've always enjoyed how strange and tasteless it is

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

I'm gutted by this. What a tragedy. If only he hadn't been alone, I keep thinking.

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 18 May 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

Review of last night's show. Not sure if it gets the right balance, but I don't know what IS the right balance.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2017/05/18/chris-cornells-final-performance-something-clearly-wasnt-right/101842384/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

That said that last paragraph...oof.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

(And I don't mean in a good way.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:05 (six years ago) link

yeah don't watch that stuff

j., Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:13 (six years ago) link

I watched a couple songs from the first night of the tour and a couple songs from last night -- the difference in energy level and voice are startling

Three Word Username, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

I forgot how great "Say Hello 2 Heaven" sounds.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRbSFprzSaA&spfreload=10

Darin, Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

i dont know if I can handle Temple of The Dog yet. i cried my eyes out at the live show in December when he was alive & singing, god knows I'd be a mess now

i am really struggling with this. i mean bowie & prince broke me but this is like my immediate musical circle, it's just too fucking real & i hate it

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

VG : hugs. xx

mark e, Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

ty <3

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

aw

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

yep god almighty do NOT watch clips from last night's Detroit show, just don't do it to yrself

pickety third (stevie), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

;_;

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 18 May 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

thanks for the warning- I don't want to remember him in some fucked up way.
goddamn I can't overstate how much I love that band. truly sad

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:03 (six years ago) link

i tried to do a top 10, so far i'm at 25 lol

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

I've always thought pre-major label Soundgarden was a bit hit-and-miss. I think they got better once they signed to a major...but I'm listening to "Screaming Life" right now and it is knocking it out of the park right now. Proper grunge biznizz

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

played through superunknown making dinner. i've never been one to play their records all the way through and i don't know why, they were really really good.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link

it's funny, i was so diehard about soundgarden that i fucking HATED superunknown when it came out

i hated all the dudes at college that suddenly were airdrumming to spoonman and i hated black hole sun on the radio endlesssly & i hated chris's haircut & the album was so new & polished sounding
i liked 4th of july & fell on black days but man thst album was a real sore point for me for a while until i grew out of it

so dumb

now i listen to it & it is so good all the way through, just so much going on musically & lyrically! fucking huge achievement

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 May 2017 23:58 (six years ago) link

lol i'm younger than you but there was a ubiquity to superunknown even for me so i can totally see pushing back on those songs.

and then tonight i'm like the spoonman riff is up there with any jimmy page riff ever.

call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

Superunknown is great.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

Yeah I was way into Badmotorfinger and then Superunknown was their "sellout"' record for me where they "lost their edge". Of course that's silly in retrospect, it's a fine record.

There are some really good songs on Superunknown but I have always hated "Black Hole Sun." Not since it got popular, but since the first time I heard it. It's slow and boring, it's got that lacy-cuffs psychedelic thing going on that I hate...it's just not a good song, to my ear. But "My Wave" still kills, and a bunch of other stuff, too. Like basically every album from 1996, it's too long, of course.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

I couldn't quite get over "Spoonman" to a degree -- I kept imagining Sammy Davis Jr. doing a riff on his "Candy Man," even more Vegas, though ("The shpoonman, he's got the shpoons!"). So I ended up more appreciating them for Superunknown where I had played Badmotorfinger into the ground, and I never quite returned to that same level in general with his work. Different sonic interests and so forth. Remarkable album nonetheless -- I remember it and The Downward Spiral came out the same day and charted 1-2 as a result. For a moment there things seemed aligned with my vision of the universe.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:15 (six years ago) link

A very nice touch

The Space Needle will go dark from 9-10pm tonight in remembrance of @chriscornell. RIP. #noonesingslikeyouanymore https://t.co/D0XmOhTbkp

— Space Needle (@space_needle) May 18, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:27 (six years ago) link

I couldn't quite get over "Spoonman" to a degree

OTM. That song is dreadful, I never even bothered to listen to the album.

https://genius.com/Soundgarden-spoonman-lyrics

But I loved every release up that one, saw them a half-dozen times.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

My Wave and Fell On Black Days are perfect meshings of sound, melody, arrangement, and singer.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

Wtf "spoonman" is awesome

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:47 (six years ago) link

Lately I've been waking up early in the morning and putting on NPR to help me doze back off, so I was only half-awake when I heard about his death and now its fact is trapped between concrete reality and a hazy half-memory. It just doesn't square to me.

I may be the only person who thinks Ultramega OK is their best album, but their singles are all-time, and he was a brilliant songwriter.

Bashir-Worf Hypothesis (Leee), Friday, 19 May 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

i learned about this b/c my wife audibly gasped looking at her phone at about 7 a.m. while we were waking up. first thought was something happened at her job, second thought was something happened to trump.

this news was unwelcome, to say the least.

call all destroyer, Friday, 19 May 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link

Michael B OTM. 7/4 riff is inspired.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link

Musically I have no problem with the song! But still.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 May 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

I don't know what the lyrics are about, really, but I didn't think that was a concern for you.:)

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

Genuinely curious about the cavils!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

I may be the only person who thinks Ultramega OK is their best album

The remastered version gives you a much stronger case.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link

nah I still have a block with that song

I did only just realize how Zeppelin-y Big Dumb Sex is with that big old fat riff, which makes the song even funnier

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:21 (six years ago) link

Is it just me or did he look very handsome on the "like a stone" video? That said I was never much of a fan of Soundgarden or Audioslave and I hated his Bond song in Casino Royale but I really respected him and liked him as a person... saw several interviews and fan videos of him instage joking with the audience and to my surprise he was not an asshole at all. I feel like most rockers from the late 80s early 90s were very unpleasant people.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link

Not Cornell tho... so he was a talented guy, humble and charismatic and pretty good looking. A keeper all around... real shame he wasn't happy with his life, seemed like he had it all.

dance cum rituals (Moka), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link

My modest obit

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

Spoonman is about heroin right

sexualing healing (crüt), Friday, 19 May 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link


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