stephen king c/d?

oh is there a tie-in to The Dark Tower in there? I tried reading the first one as a kid and couldn't get through more than 20 pages, boring af at the time.

Dude, there's probably 15 non-Dark Tower SK books that tie into the Dark Tower.

minimum

xp all things serve the Beam

i know, but i thought for some reason that all came later post car accident.

one of the best things about king is the thread running through pretty much all of his work no matter how old, new, fantasy, contemporary and shite.

The later Dark Tower books are really aggressive at retroactively turning earlier books into Dark Tower tie-ins - I think it's in VI that the priest from Salem's Lot that was defeated by the vampires in a moment of lapsed faith (awesome scene) suddenly turns up as like, a bartender in a ghost town in another dimension or something. In hindsight, I'm shocked only that he didn't pull up to our heroes in a certain eerily familiar 1958 Plymouth Fury...

Although to be fair he then has his characters notice that the bad guys are ripping everything off of popular genre fiction, with Doctor Doom robots wielding tricked-out Golden Snitches as deadly weapons (IIRC), so maybe he was aware of just how fanficcy it was all getting.

i like to charitably imagine that he wasnt aware of fuck all for books five onwards tbph

I think Eyes of the Dragon was where he began the shared universe thing in earnest - as opposed to retconning characters into the narrative as in the case of Salem's Lot and The Stand (although both The Gunslinger and The Stand stemmed from his desire to create an American version of Lord of The Rings, so he may already have been mulling over the connection)

i get a post-vancian kinda wolfe-y vibe from the first Dark Tower book but I don't suppose those were actual influences (did book of the new sun come out after the first dark tower anyway...?)

I'm sure I've read King talking about Vance before (and I'd be surprised if he wasn't a fan tbh)

Wolfe idk

not necessarily wolfe imo but certainly that dried out twilight seventies dusty scifi/fantasy feel

i have been thinking recently about the character and feel of US fantasy vs UK fantasy and that feel, the difference between mesa and countryside, between technology/concept focus and adventure/story focus looms large-ish imo

mostly the covers on the us stuff is angular and has horrible colours like yellow and purple and the uk stuff is loamy and leafy or whatever

king may have set out for lotr but he never got there, i dont think, nor even close. wizard of oz maybe.

Still a worthy progenitor to be compared against imo.

yeah not a criticism at all just a comment on the feel of it

also... idk... louis l'amour wrote some bad fantasy western stuff that i cant help but bring to mind in some parts of tdt, again not the 'bad' that im paralleling but rather the vibe of the books, western, airport novel, american seventies pulp fantasy.... whatnot

I really noticed the Dark Tower 'connections' in The Talisman. The Territories is the big one. But there's also the train Jack and Richard take through the blasted (waste) lands, the wolves, etc. King really mined it for later Dark Tower elements.

SPOILER FOR INSOMNIA:

Slogging through Insomnia when it came out, and finding the whole point of it was to rescue some random character that had something to do with the Dark Tower (I think?) put me off SK for ten years, I was so disgusted. I've come back big to SK, but jesus that was lame.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-creepiest-thing-about-stephen-king-his-acting-career/

i liked insomnia and i even liked heart in atlantis there i said it

insomnia really just IT for senior citizens tho tbrr

Wrong thread, but maybe Trump's the Man in Black after all.

Just because the kid actor from Stranger Things is in the movie adaptation, my 12 year old daughter keeps asking me if she could read It. I keep telling her it is not really appropriate for her or her age, but

Weird. Anyway, I ultimately told her it was like beer. She is physically capable of drinking it, but she is not ready for it. She seemed to understand the analogy.

I guess it depends on the kid, but I'd read my fair share of King by that age (although, tbf, I probably didn't tackle It until the ripe old age of 13).

Guess that doesn't necessarily mean I was ready for it. I like to think of the attendant trauma as character building.

He writes about sex like someone who can clearly recollect a number of sexual encounters just shy of the number of children he has.

― Jigsaw Pizzle (Old Lunch), Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:22 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel like like im reading a 12 y/os pretend diary about their pretend sex life. Its where the true horror shines imo.

their sweaty bellies, still slim in those days, slapped together while her teeth clamped around ger cigarette in ecstasy

i mean thats a composite but i definitely remember something something

Yeah, that quote is from IT. Good memory.

the descriptions of the sex always have a sad-motel/dive bar flavor to them

like even when it's supposed to be attractive people it sounds like a divorced dad & a retired waitress

^^^^exactly

lol. perfect description.

Thirded

I am not really very into fiction in general but was suprised at how sophmoric his writing seemed to me - good ideas but he needs STanley Kubrick to eralie trghem

the last part of that sentence took a Lovecraftian turn

lol

r'lyeh!

Are you all speaking in Welsh?

Llew, h'aey.

valuable np

king-ready plot synopsis of my dream last night: there's a small band of misunderstood outcasts, i think mostly youths or teens, runaways, but it's heavily and repeatedly foreshadowed that each has a secret or isn't who they say they are etc (i think there's an idea about them being a group of seven people and there are "seven anomalies" in the story that they tell people as they travel around fighting the forces of darkness). the latest joiner, we see in extended first-person flashback, is actually a total psycho though he appears to be a misunderstood misanthrope, a slow-witted bully who was in former times such an asshole to the outcast heroes only because of his abusive father. but when he finally "stood up to" and "ran away from" his dad, during a physical altercation, actually he had taken up dad's beloved chainsaw and chopped off his hands and feet before leaving him to bleed to death in the dimly-lit, un-airconditioned, mildewy cottage they called home. now this nutcase is traveling around in the party and none of them yet had any inkling of the grim fate that lay ahead for at least two of them.

Can you throw in a child who "knows" things?

almost certainly one of the outcasts. maybe that's his/her terrible secret, they've already seen everything that will happen to the group but they're pretending like everything's fine.

you should call it The Real World: Cincinnati

lolol djp

Honestly this makes the film look like a romcom

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ioHcxOqc--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/o0hych3y69yzvunmbqol.jpg

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51le5rF-11L.jpg

He's wearing a marvel outfit when it should be dusty tarp

Granted, modern io9, but I have been wondering.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/with-less-than-a-month-to-go-why-have-we-seen-so-littl-1796771460

Waaaaaait, this was co-written by Akiva Goldsman?! Yeah, okay, no thanks.