"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.
― the ghost of markers, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link
thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.
I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
welcome vryna!
#teamlulu always needs more members
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:21 (six years ago) link
strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.
The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link
totally. i actually think a great book would be like a big oral history interviewing Lou sidemen/women from over the decades.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
i'm sure fernando saunders has good stories. and michael fonfara ... i just looked him up and saw he's canadian too -- Lou had a thing for keyboard players from up there i guess. that canuck soul, right?
― tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link
where was primary female backing vocalist? (she kinda looked like she should be fronting a late 90s band that liked Get Up Kids a lot), she was great
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:11 (six years ago) link
Havent checked the Prague recording but I attended the Amsterdam gig of the VU to Lulu tour. Joan as Policewoman was the support act and did (some) vocals during Lou's gig.
― willem, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
I'm sure Mike Rathke has seen some shit in his time
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link
I bet a signed album of this (if there are any) will go for a zillion dollars.
Checked eBay to see if any are out there, but all I found was
http://vinylsamongotherthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LuluFront.jpg
― to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
Jesus, are we going to have an upswing of ironic praise of this turd now?
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
we always liked it
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
amen
― niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
'You never had aLittle Dog !'
― Mark G, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
I've been aggressively consistent in my praise of this record, which I tipsily referred to as "my Sticky Fingers" on Saturday night
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
there were a few that could see Lulu for what it was....us...David Bowie, few others
― I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
i still want to write a book about it, even after having my proposal rejected by 33 1/3
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
what's that crowdfunding platform I keep hearing about
― niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
Feel like if we polled this again, “Junior Dad” would win again.
― the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link
i mean, rightly, it's a tremendous piece of work
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link
probably my favorite piece of music released this decade so far
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:01 (six years ago) link
A more interesting poll for this record might be second favorite track, not first.
― the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link
Jessica Troy's viola is as primary a part of "Junior Dad" as anything else.
― to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
Released on 11/1 missed the anniversary :(
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, May 8, 2017 2:28 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
would love to read this
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
The DeCurtis Lou bio gives a decent amount of coverage to Lulu, Lou was pretty hurt by the response, though maybe the (non) response to "Ecstasy" bothered him more.
Both are great records!
Amazing that in the day and age of everyone overthinking and market testing and "curating" everything a record has perverse and off-putting as Lulu was allowed to happen
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
I still like this album a lot
― silverfish, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VyWW5hnXY
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
holy shit
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
it's uhhh pretty amazing (especially the last minute or so)
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
i love and miss lou reed
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu, I wonder if there are any demo recordings that might see the light of day eventually.
There are couple of times when very Lulu-esque noises/almost riffs churn up on the live performance of Creation of The Universe MM3 live record. I think this was obv something Lou spent a long time thinking about.
Looping back to my earlier comment, per the DeCurtis bio Lou was basically in "fuck it" mode after Ecstasy, a record he kind of slaved over & poured himself into and was met with "yeah another new Lou record, big whoop" & he retired essentially from making straight up Lou Reed records, which is why he did the Raven & then the Berlin tour, but it seems like he still wrote songs, etc.
Anyway I am very curious to hear early vers of these tunes
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
that laurie version is really great
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link
It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu
yes, they were all (?) originally written for robert wilson's production of the frank wedekind plays, but my impression is that the initial material was much more droney and abstract. iirc metallica came in later bc they had the enormous sound lou wanted for the words
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
yeah, there are early junior dads stretching back to 2008 or thereabouts ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0
there's probably enough stuff for LULU: RELULUED ... 10th anniversary release?
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
thank you thread revive for inspiring me to rewrite my book proposal
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
brad, i will buy your book
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
if i ever get an agent i'll tell them we already have one book sold
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
make that 2!
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
i still have never listened to this album. maybe today is the day
― akm, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
xp Only two people bought Brad Nelson's book about Lulu, but both of them went on to write their own books about Lulu
― tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
Zero votes for "Cheat On Me" wtf guys
― billstevejim, Friday, 2 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
why do we cheat on ourselves
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
The window broke the silence of the matchesThe smoke effortlessly floating
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link
Is it unfair to ask youTo help pull me up
― Mule, Sunday, 5 April 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
RIP Lulu producer Hal Willner
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
Listening to the boot of the VU to Lulu live set from Lou's last tour and right away on Brandenburg Gate, which otherwise sounds fine, the backing vox are just regular people singing "small town girl", like in a way completely normal people who went to college for music but also listen to Can and have a lot of good dub records would sing it and not the over-the-top "small-TOWN GRRRL!"s that we endlessly clowned James on for becuz he is a maniac and right there that is why Metallica is the ONLY band who could have made this record with Lou because Lulu is a record about maniacs, written by a maniac and played by maniacs. It isn't a good or polite or pretty record, it's a mean, weird grotesque played by and for people who sleep on a mattress on a floor and think about Lemmy as they fall asleep and first thing in the morning and have two different bullet-belts, a nice one and one for everyday wear.
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 28 January 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link
otm!!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link
SMALL TOWN GIRL