Weezer -- Classic or Dud?

The best Weezer song of all time is the one where Rivers Cuomo just lists the age of consent of every Japanese prefecture

— stefan heck (@boring_as_heck) April 26, 2017

Bush did 9/11

— Rivers Cuomo (@RiversCuomo) June 20, 2017

So... there's a new album!

*fart*

Ha!

https://vimeo.com/249694026

lmao that's really well done

woulda never thought to call weezer "nirvana in a major key" but there you are

Not bad, though this is probably my favorite "Poppy" take on Smells Like Teen Spirit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnAgMvSJmcA

That first one sounds much more like Third Eye Blind

The Black Album is the worst music I've ever heard in my life

I'd say "worst music I've ever heard in my life" is maybe underselling it a tad but practically every track makes me want to listen to something else. "Can't Knock the Hustle" is just a really bad modern Cake song. "Living in LA" rips a hook from The Police. "Piece of Cake" is like Dukes of Stratosphear with a lobotomy. And so on. I can't believe Rivers is 50 years old and still writing songs like this; I've never encountered a successful musician with less to say.

I keep seeing Weezer everywhere lately, and it feels like they weirdly might be like...the most popular rock band for non-music nerds right now? Along with....Queen again? I didn't realise they were classroom-instruments-and-barbershop-skit-on-Fallon big. Music's weird, man.

Didn't they just release an all covers album on the heels of Africa?

they were and are garbage

the white album is so fucking good, it's a shame rivers is like... an extremely cynical songwriter?

Who would have thought they would be the last (?) '90s radio rock band standing

Pearl Jam and the Foos still going.

Dare I say it, half of the Black Album is fine. Byzantine especially:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWzThKlk2Ac

PJ isn't making many albums (especially widely popular ones), are they? Foo Fighters probably are, idk, I always forget how many people seem to like them.

PJ pretty consistently make records every 3-5 years and never took a hiatus like Weezer/Rivers did. The records are definitely the secondary consideration compared to touring, though. (By a lot, at this point.)

I never understood why Weezer had this sort of eternal popularity on the backs of two decent albums instead of say, Everclear

Rivers being sort of a troll probably has something to do with it

god i had forgotten about everclear

So Much For the Afterglow is better than both of Weez's "classic" albums in my opinion

i liked that album at the time but can't remember anything about it.

worth revisiting, pretty perfect record

Everything Will Be Alright was about half ok.
White Album was actually solid.
2 or 3 songs on Pacific Daydream were ok.

Teal/Black are garbage - zero jams. RIP

the singles and the reviews made me expect that the black album would have a lot more actively terrible musical decisions on it than it did but unfortunately the rest of the album was mostly just bland and poorly executed pop rock, meaning it wasn't even as entertaining of a trainwreck as raditude was

i guess it's a bit disappointing that rivers is back to following his worst impulses after three albums that ranged from relatively pleasant (ewbaite, pacific daydream) to quite good (white) but there's really so little reason to have expected anything at all from this band these days so i can't complain at all

I never understood why Weezer had this sort of eternal popularity on the backs of two decent albums instead of say, Everclear

Feel like this is 100% the fault of people my age +/- two years (class of 2000) who were the core of the backlash to the Pinkerton backlash.

(class of 2000)

h.s. or college(?)

Pinkerton University

lol

Everclear's '90s singles all sound like boomer-grunge to me. No weirdness. No sense of humor. I've tried to get into them many times, but they're way too VH1 imo.

always thought of them as a grunge/power-pop hybrid with an emphasis on the latter

It's funny how their career after their third album has seemed mostly like an exercise in pissing off as much of their old fanbase as much as possible.

should i post “white album >> pinkerton” in the controp thread or just leave it here

You should post it on a Weezer forum!

I'm more likely to listen to Everything Will Be Alright in the End over Pinkerton these days, fwiw.

it makes me furious that rivers is capable of writing songs like "girl we got a good thing" and "wind in our sail" and just mostly doesn't!

i'm entirely with brad on "white >> pinkerton"

Yeah, it's not like he can't deliver the goods! This is ultimately the most frustrating thing. I wouldn't be so annoyed about his worst material if his great material hadn't been so good.

I should give White a proper listen. I thought Red had a few jams.

It did, but it also had some embarrassing tripe.

This sounds like the same exact conversation us Sun Kil Moon fans are having these days

I resist the idea that any of the last...five?...SKM releases have contained any jams at all

Well, not THAT exact, but tbf I have seen people citing "jams" here and there from recent albums. I can't be bothered to look into it myself. The guy retired with "Young Love" for me.

More broadly I meant that there were some great albums, then this huge drop that produced material way beyond parody that is so hard to understand the why and the how, and the frustrating realization that there are fans that actually prefer that direction and enable it.

Anyway, Weezer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl-hSj3gnks

best weezer song i've heard since the white album. new album van weezer (lmao) out next may

that's indeed pretty good! it's cool how rivers showing he can indeed make good music for a whole album if he wants to after all this time has only made him an even more frustrating figure

it's kinda like what i'd imagine a more successful version of maladroit would sound like lol