http://bkref.com/tiny/wkZaL
pretty crazy how similar their numbers are. pierce is basically a slightly worse version of melo
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
pierce better on ts%, efg%, off and def rating, etc. it is close but he was a better shooter, more efficient, and actually played in the finals a couple times.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
not gonna read that undefeated piece but i do agree pierce won't be a beloved HOFer outside of one market.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
kevin k a slightly worse version of whoever is the worst at trolling
― lag∞n, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
pierce was definitely a better defender. melo will probably age better tho. melo's peak also higher
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
fwiw when i suggested that melo was slightly better than PP i was assuming his last 4-5 years would be a smoother decline than pierce's. could be wrong
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
pierce was kinda fun as the 4 on that wizards team. kinda.
― Spottie, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
pierce also generally doo-doo in the playoffs
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
also better shooting %s, net ratings, etc. than melo in the playoffs lol
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:34 (six years ago) link
i am not exactly a melo fan
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
i'm just struggling to find a meaningful number where he looks better than pierce in the playoffs. i'm open-minded to the idea but it's not really happening.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
well when i said he was doo doo in the offs i meant in general for a HOFer, not necessarily in comparison to melo. i assume the reason his PER is lower than melo's is mostly due to higher usage and lower turnover percentage
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link
er, lower usage and more turnovers
ah ok, that may be true re: general HOFers.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
pierce has a pretty big lead there in the regression-based advanced stats due to slightly higher efficiency and better defense. PER is a witches brew and i don't buy it in general.
i don't really know where the bar is for the basketball hall of fame these days.
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link
i think his heroic return within minutes from a devastating knee injury that would have crippled lesser players for a season or two during their finals win was certainly legendary
― nomar, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
remember when he got stabbed in the neck and face in a nightclub? i always forget that.
― nomar, Monday, 1 May 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link
looking the recent HoF classes now, pierce is pretty far above the bar. if this was baseball he'd probably be one of the guys who has to sweat it out for 5 years before people let him in. we're more inclusive with our HoF over here.
― ciderpress, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link
guys like melo and pierce probably wouldn't make it in a baseball style hall. melo is basically steve garvey and pierce is like...kirk gibson?
― k3vin k., Monday, 1 May 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
Paul Pierce has had a lot of big moments, many that Raps fans in particular won't forget. He was rarely a top 5 player in a season statewide but he was definitely memorable
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:51 (six years ago) link
*statswise
ask any knicks fan how they feel about him lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 02:53 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUWwDzBkUdw&feature=youtu.be
liked this video from coach nick. i loved stockton too, lol pvmic
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 03:50 (six years ago) link
Paul Pierce is top 20 all-time in scoring. Would a guy who was top 20 all time in hits not make the baseball hall of fame?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:24 (six years ago) link
iirc the guy who is #1 in hits in not in the baseball hof
― Clay, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link
Yah the goat isn't in baseballs a mess
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link
you can't compare 1:1 like that between those sports because baseball teams carry twice as many players and has a way longer history. the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player
that said a good answer to your question would be rafael palmeiro, who is 26th all time in hits and might not have made the HOF even without the PED stuff
xp lol
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link
baseball is terrible, why are we talking about the baseballs
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:37 (six years ago) link
literally none of the mlb players have ever dunked, all of them are disqualified from the halla fame
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link
"the 50th best baseball player ever is probably a lot better at baseball than the 50th best NBA player"
I would hope so
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link
mike trout dunks
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:38 (six years ago) link
Baseball >>>> football (as of 2015 for next)
Basketball obv better than both
― Spottie, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
mike trout doesnt dunk in game, shit dont count
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:44 (six years ago) link
here are the team sports
basketball>>>>>>>>soccer>>>>>>>>>>hockey>>>>>>>>>>cricket (bc its cute)>baseball>>>>>>>concussionball>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>esports
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:46 (six years ago) link
lol bise likes the floppy sports
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 2 May 2017 04:50 (six years ago) link
All of life is a *~performance~*
― nice cage (m bison), Tuesday, 2 May 2017 16:59 (six years ago) link
ah the ultimate game of being alive
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
like half the nba teams own esports franchises now, its a plague
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
I'm more into speedruns
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
speedruns r good
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link
http://www.blazersedge.com/2017/5/2/15527350/brandon-roy-shooting-report-los-angeles-la-king-5
Brandon Roy was maybe ... shot?
― Clay, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 05:41 (six years ago) link
yikes
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 May 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link
KCBS in Los Angeles reports about 20 people, including several nieces and nephews, having a barbecue in the street. They were watching children play basketball in the 2000 block of North Nestor Avenue about 9:30 p.m. when two men walked up and opened fire without saying a word, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.The suspects fled the area.Roy was standing next to his six-year-old niece, according to the girl's grandmother. He put her in a bear hug and took her to the ground. In the process, he was shot in the hamstring and butt.
The suspects fled the area.
Roy was standing next to his six-year-old niece, according to the girl's grandmother. He put her in a bear hug and took her to the ground. In the process, he was shot in the hamstring and butt.
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link
hero
wow
― lag∞n, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link
started this thread: BIG3 — America's 3-on-3 Professional Basketball League
― Spottie, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
Paul pierce is a hall of farmer u lunatics
Anyone who clowned Kobe in the finals gets in no questions asked
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, 5 May 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
Seriously though just going by the usual "qualifiers" (not saying these are the best but just what historically gets u in) top twenty scoring a finals MVP a bunch of all star spots and a ring basically means a lock
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, 5 May 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
Melo is gonna be a real interesting test, I'm assuming he has another couple yrs of decent but declining production and probably a massive drop off after that, and no way he's winning a ring unless he gets on someone's bandwagon as a 37 yr old eighth man
― gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Friday, 5 May 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
the melo comparison is funny cause "hes just a smarter tougher defense playing melo" is a description of a great player
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 May 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link