just think of the photo ops with the dogs!!
― sarahell, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link
aw, man, would have totally read a fear and loathing with the feral dogs from whiney...oh well.
― scott seward, Friday, April 28, 2017 3:57 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hell yes
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
The article about the dude's card/concierge service shows his business model is at least consistent
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm drooling for the droll 5,000 word New Yorker piece on this mess.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, April 28, 2017 3:05 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i'm praying at least one pub like new yorker, vanity fair or rolling stone that still has some resources sent someone to cover this thing
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, April 28, 2017 4:16 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
we need this but instead we will probably end up w/ a thousand thinkpieces on instagram culture and "influencers"
― marcos, Friday, 28 April 2017 20:59 (seven years ago) link
and looooooool @ the juicero image
― marcos, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
lol
http://themuse.jezebel.com/fema-tents-government-cheese-and-feral-dogs-ja-rule-1794742843
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link
"For Ja Rule at least, the festival started off promisingly..."
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
I know every failure sounds like a Trump venture in 2017 but this whole "we're going to have the best festival" followed by the actual work part being passed off to an underqualified employee (or not addressed at all) as you take pictures with supermodels advertising the best festival ever...
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link
xpost Interesting. Do you remember how you heard about it? Was it the IG bombing?
― Ned Raggett, Friday, April 28, 2017 4:57 PM (thirty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I got an email from a publicist in January after the Kendall Jenner thing. I'm looking back at my emails now.
First thing I did was fwd to three coworkers with "This festival is insane"
Second email from me to two coworkers:
The more I research this, the more insane it gets…Apparently this is the brainchild of Ja Rule?Also, the pub told me cap is 10,000. They’re going to fly TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE to an islandTrying to get a Rule interview because this is the best/stupidest thing I’m fully convinced there’s no way they can actually pull this off….
Apparently this is the brainchild of Ja Rule?
Also, the pub told me cap is 10,000. They’re going to fly TEN THOUSAND PEOPLE to an island
Trying to get a Rule interview because this is the best/stupidest thing
I’m fully convinced there’s no way they can actually pull this off….
― Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:04 (seven years ago) link
feral yet patient, the best kind of feral
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:06 (seven years ago) link
was gonna be so cool...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5kY3RsmKo
― scott seward, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link
we all weep now for getfuktantifacucks
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link
lol nice promo
― Spottie, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link
See the thing is about that promo -- having worked for years and years at UCI and all and seeing endless frat party announcements around the campus, it just reads like exactly that. "An epic event like no other," etc. Which I suppose explains who went to this thing.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Now I'm flashing back to a frat at my college who FILLED THEIR ENTIRE BASEMENT WITH SAND for some sort of beach-themed event.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:35 (seven years ago) link
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, April 28, 2017 3:59 PM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
same
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:37 (seven years ago) link
this all feels like Land of the Dead
― nomar, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, April 28, 2017 4:35 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
imo fyre should have started with this idea and one band. no concert experience and jumping straight to secluded island festival was a bridge too far
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
perfect pr.next year this will sell out.
― mark e, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
we better get a new york post LYRE! headline out of this or the world truly has gone mad.
― scott seward, Friday, 28 April 2017 21:57 (seven years ago) link
Hey, Whiney (or rather one of his writers) got some goods:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/fyre-fest-head-billy-mcfarland-we-were-a-little-naive-w479502
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
Today is definitely the toughest day of my life. I'd love the opportunity to go through and tell my story of how we got here and how I see it now and where it's going.I was a computer programmer, and after computers, the two things I love most are the ocean and, for some reason, rap music.
I was a computer programmer, and after computers, the two things I love most are the ocean and, for some reason, rap music.
Trying to imagine who's the best voiceover for this.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link
Stuart Smalley
― sleeve, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
Once we got flying lessons together, we got on these really bad 40-year-old planes and flew from New York to the Bahamas – not really knowing the Bahamas very well – ran out of gas and landed in the Exumas and both of us immediately fell in love.
Sadly, not with each other.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:18 (seven years ago) link
I mean:
We started this website and launched this festival marketing campaign. Our festival became a real thing and took (on) a life of its own. Our next step was to book the talent and actually make the music festival.
He seems to be blaming everything on the weather. First I heard of that being an issue.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
Love how much he tries to cram in to the final paragraph:
There will be make-up dates, May 2018 in the U.S., free for everybody who signed up for this festival. We will donate $1.50 (per ticket) to the Bahamian Red Cross. It'll keep the theme of being on water and beach. It'll be not just music, but all forms of entertainment. The one change we will make is we will not try to do it ourselves. We will make sure there is infrastructure in place to support us.
http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/04/fyre-festival-exumas-bahamas-disaster.html
― Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
Separate RS story had this:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/fyre-fest-attendee-it-was-just-a-nightmare-w479493
Some who helped organize the festival took issue with the "out of our control" portion of the festival's statement. In early March, former Saturday Night Live talent associate Chloe Gordon traveled to the Bahamas to tour the site as a producer hired to work with the talent. "It was about two months out, and it was a mess," she says, adding that she quit after returning to New York. "They had already, when we got down there, hired and fired two full production teams. And they hadn't started planning anything. They basically just fired everyone along the way that told them it wasn't feasible."
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:23 (seven years ago) link
He seems to be blaming everything on the weather
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/questions-about-the-bermuda-triangle-have-a-weather-explanation/
― mark s, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:24 (seven years ago) link
xpost with Malcolm's post there -- same person.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:25 (seven years ago) link
" They basically just fired everyone along the way that told them it wasn't feasible."
beautiful
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link
This bit from the Gordon story says it all (and underscores my frat party comment):
On Wednesday, Ja Rule arrived for a “site visit.” I don’t know if he actually visited the “site” but he did spend a lot of time on a yacht, according to his Instagram. Meanwhile the event planners were holed up indoors putting together a game plan and a budget. With so little having been prepared ahead of time, the official verdict was that it would take $50 million to pull off. Planners also warned that it would be not be up to the standard they had advertised. The best idea, they said, would be to roll everyone’s tickets over to 2018 and start planning for the next year immediately. They had a meeting with the Fyre execs to deliver the news. A guy from the marketing team said, “Let’s just do it and be legends, man.”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:28 (seven years ago) link
Oh damn, the following paragraph is even better:
At this point it was pretty clear that this was a mess and I shared my concerns with the man I reported to. But he assured me that the Fyre execs were legit, and said some socialite was underwriting the whole thing. The budget was okayed and we were told to carry on with our planning. That night Ja Rule gave a toast. “To living like movie stars, partying like rock stars, and fucking like porn stars.” If Ja Rule is punished for anything perhaps it should be that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link
let's just do it and be legends, man
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:34 (seven years ago) link
I kind of pooh-poohed the experience stuff when I first got here. But this shit is hard.
it's weird it's like i've seen this story before
― we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
Take a crap, get drunk, put a festival, let's just do it.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link
and in that, they will succeed xxp
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:37 (seven years ago) link
do you think they had the intelligence to do any legal work and have liability waivers or anything else? because there's no way this isn't a legal mess
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 22:38 (seven years ago) link
Oh my god, the coup de grace at the end of the Gordon piece:
I cannot explain how or why the bros running this festival ignored every warning sign they were given along the way. The writing was on the wall. I saw it firsthand six weeks ago. They overlooked so many very basic things. And baby, they forgot to make me sign an NDA.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:39 (seven years ago) link
NAME NAMES
― nomar, Friday, 28 April 2017 22:40 (seven years ago) link
Thank you for my new display name, based fyre lyre lords
― Let’s just do it and be legends, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 28 April 2017 23:23 (seven years ago) link
it's really good, but let's just do it and be legends, bro would have been all-time
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link
I think we can all agree that putting on a music festival is tough and takes a lot of bravery and strength
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 28 April 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, April 28, 2017 6:38 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
apparently not to do NDAs!
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 28 April 2017 23:33 (seven years ago) link
related lols from a friend on FB:
Because of my job at the opera people are always asking me to be involved in some "edgey, culturally inclusive theatre project in an abandoned church in the lower 9th ward that's been flooded in Katrina" and then they talk for an hour about the voices of the oppressed and the ancestors etc etc. and when they are finished I ask them some questions. Like:1 is there electricity?2 do you know where to get a silent generator3 have you inquired unit the city about permits?4 do you have a dressing room for the performers?5 do you have water for the performers playing the oppressed people?6 do you have food for the performers?7 do you have a lighting designer?8 do you have lightning?9 do you have stage hands? Will they be union or ?10 how much are you paying the stagehands?11 how much are you paying the performers? Or do oppressed people even have to be paid?12 will you have beverages for the audience?13 how will you keep that cold?14 will you need a sound system ?15 who will be the sound man? How much will you pay him or her?16 will there be parking?17 will there be security?18 are there functioning bathrooms? Or will you have to get pot o' gold?19 what if it rains.20 do you have insurance ?
And then, after a few moments of them looking at me blankly, I say I have to go to the bathroom and I walk away
― sleeve, Friday, 28 April 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link
cocaine is a hell of a drug
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 29 April 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link
so the anecdote about the organizers urging people to load money onto their payment bracelet things as soon as they arrived... so they had no money to pay people to continue setting up the grounds, did they?
― a landlocked exclave (mh), Saturday, 29 April 2017 00:10 (seven years ago) link
fyre festival seemed like a pretty good plan, cruise some chicks and get a suntan
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 29 April 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link
“Let’s just do it and be legends, man.”
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 29 April 2017 00:48 (seven years ago) link