Algiers -- The Underside of Power

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i don't get the notion of resenting the popularity of a band i love. maybe because it's so rare. i'm never going to be like "oh god look at all these bandwagon jumpers listening to the insensible eggs".

― increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:40 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't resent it at all. But I do get tired of hearing stuff sometimes, and when everyone else is listening to the same thing it (selfishly) impairs my own enjoyment. Like, I can't think of the last time I played Phoenix. (sorry Phoenix)

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 27, 2017 4:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

um guys...like i wouldn't really worry too much about having to hear algiers from every passing car this summer

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 April 2017 14:03 (six years ago) link

nice song. The chorus has a "Get Ready" sound to it.

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 28 April 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

apaprently DM is touring with Warpaint and not Algiers for most of North America :/

Yup, that's what I've learned too. Pity, but I can't wait for the standalone tour. (And I like Warpaint so everyone wins.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 April 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link

Yeah, no big deal, I was just hopeful

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link

I really like Warpaint but they were a muddled mess when I saw them open for Nick Cave

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 28 April 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

nice series of opening gigs they've got there

a landlocked exclave (mh), Friday, 28 April 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this has leaked. holy shit.

Cyborg Kickboxer (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

Well that's highly unfortunate. (I mean, yes, it is great, but c'mon, a month out?)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New single "Cleveland" is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xDDCxodgIs

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

^^^^tune

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 15:05 (six years ago) link

Keep an eye on this thread Monday.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 June 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

love you ned but you've been following too many trump conspiracy theory twitter accounts :)

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 June 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link

Yeah, not that funny.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link

ned you posted rick wilson, you should expect some good-natured ribbing

anyway I'm looking forward to the NPR stream or whatever

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link

*scratches chin idly*

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link

algiers set supporting depeche mode from this week up on dime now

Frank Ocean is the Ultimate Solution (rushomancy), Saturday, 17 June 2017 12:37 (six years ago) link

Anyway, as I said:

http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/06/19/533237337/a-band-apart-fractured-fury-algiers

So, I interviewed all four members, as well as Adrian Utley and Ali Chant, Ben Greenberg and Randall Dunn. Three months of intense work at times but I'm sure glad I did it; everyone was a pretty incredible interviewee -- a lot of terrifyingly smart people, in essence -- and this piece could easily have been at least three times as long based on their answers to questions alone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:02 (six years ago) link

nice one . gonna read this later.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Monday, 19 June 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

Will definitely read the article later. That second track is a lot weirder/noisier than the first, which I liked better and which reminded me of The Heavy (who I like, so that's not meant as an insult). Ultimately, though, I know myself - this is the kind of thing I admire a lot, but wind up never actually listening to that much.

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link

Fantastic, Ned. Since I tripped across these guys in your tweets I've had a lot of great listening and thinking.

popcorn michael awaits trumptweet (Hunt3r), Monday, 19 June 2017 14:32 (six years ago) link

xpost You might surprise yourself when you hear the whole thing -- but I understand that impulse very well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 14:37 (six years ago) link

Great read Ned! Very cool.

This is my album of the year at this point. And while we're talking about it, I wrote about them for CLRVYNT and also found them to be a super interesting bunch of people. Very smart, very interesting perspectives on... everything really.

http://clrvynt.com/elder-interview/

jterich, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link

Ah, sorry, wrong link: http://clrvynt.com/algiers-feature/

jterich, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

Hey we can talk about Elder too.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

haha, both great bands!

jterich, Monday, 19 June 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

i really liked their first album & v hyped to see them live for the second time next month. thanks for the long article ned!

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link

You're welcome! I hadn't realized how exhausted it would all make me but I'm kindly weirdly wiped out today.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

And now you can all finally hear it and judge for yourselves.

http://smarturl.it/TheUndersideOfPower

Still my album of the year, easy.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

This album absolutely rules and I'm definitely looking forward to exploring it further.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:44 (six years ago) link

Can't help but think that Matt Tong made the right decision.

― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, April 25, 2017 6:01 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 23 June 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link

yeah so this is incredible, *perfect* sequencing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 June 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link

I'm a minute into this and... DAMN

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:24 (six years ago) link

this album really harshly reminds me of the fact that so many bands would benefit from having an actual singer

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

Ah, got an even better bonus for you -- so when the advances first came out, an incredibly detailed breakdown of all the tracks accompanied it, explaining specific points of inspiration, who wrote what song, what they were thinking of, created by all four bandmembers. (It was a big help for my piece, but also because it essentially answered a lot of my initial questions, and let me pursue other points of discussion.)

Anyway, NPR is now running an edited version of it along with links to all tracks -- this by no means covers everything they discussed but it's a hell of a lot of it.

http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/06/23/532904335/algiers-unpacks-its-kaleidscopically-dense-the-underside-of-power-track-by-track

And even more handily, they've included a playlist connecting not only to their own songs but a variety of the performers and songs referenced/sampled:

https://open.spotify.com/user/npr_music/playlist/0ZcfxhLxDzP3PsT0IZZIC9

Go nuts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link

haha this is the exact opposite of Vince Staples' "look, just listen to the music and make your own connections to it before you come back to me to ask 'what's it all about, man'" stance

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Friday, 23 June 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link

it's still not quite connecting with me on the same level as y'all but this is some impressive stuff. closing track is an especial treat (actually that whole run near the end is great)

between this and vince it's been quite the day for new releases

imago, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:48 (six years ago) link

that one really, really industrial one is where dan will lose his shit the most, i predict

imago, Friday, 23 June 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

I've been waiting for a week when I can really dedicate myself to this, but my early reaction was this is the album TV on the Radio sometimes hinted at but never delivered. But maybe next time I listen I won't think/hear that at all.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link

this album really harshly reminds me of the fact that so many bands would benefit from having an actual singer

I don't think this can be stated enough.

Also, I don't know if a side-effect of my reaction to this band/album should be "fuck off forever, Zeal and Ardor" but it's definitely popped into my head a few times.

a butt groove but for feet (DJP), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

I'm still quietly amazed that Franklin considers himself -- as he said to me directly! -- much more of a guitarist than a singer. He's definitely not interested in being the perceived frontman/focal point of the group.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

Pitchfork putting DJ Khaled and Jeff Tweedy in their "new albums to listen to" roundup but not this has me deeply annoyed

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 June 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I've been wondering if there's any particular reason as to why Pitchfork has basically ignored this album.

MarkoP, Friday, 23 June 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

this rocks

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 23 June 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I've been wondering if there's any particular reason as to why Pitchfork has basically ignored this album.

― MarkoP, Friday, June 23, 2017 11:52 AM (forty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it seems very "Pitchfork-y"

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 June 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

it's too good and they're scared

black covfefe in bed (voodoo chili), Friday, 23 June 2017 17:48 (six years ago) link

This and Kendrick tied for my favourite LP of 2017 so far.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 23 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Well this is a thing isn't it.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

okay so this album...

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link

...yes?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:38 (six years ago) link

it's very good isn't it? i mean, very VERY good. If Ministry circa Psalm 69 had teamed up with the Four Tops and made a super-intelligent protest album, this would be it. The vinyl I got sent the other day comes with some lovely packaging and a free 7" too.

Shat Parp (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:43 (six years ago) link

I am listening to this song now and a) it rules, and b) I do not think this is addressing criticism of the band as such

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

like, I don't think anyone is telling the two white members of the band that they aren't real niggas, like that Chris Rock sketch

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link

the reference of the title btw for those who dont know https://cup.columbia.edu/book/can-the-subaltern-speak/9780231143851

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

I'm listening to "Can The Sub-Bass Speak?" again and I am impressed with the level of restraint I showed here in responding to the description of the song

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

one of my tracks of the year, easily, but first time I've read that description and fucking hell

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

The new album is quite lovely, BTW; my review of it runs next week I believe.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:58 (four years ago) link

there's really a lot going on in "can the sub-bass speak?" so my apologies for not capturing all its intricacies in a very brief description upon first listen

ufo, Thursday, 9 January 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

but ill maintain that critical attempts to pigeonhole the bands music etc. is one of the many things it does address

ufo, Thursday, 9 January 2020 04:55 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

new long-ass remixes of "Cleveland" just in time for the election

https://open.spotify.com/album/2ttGvriuz92KNvllIjp30A?si=MdXPB0PySj6hTTmaF4blyQ

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

Oh great, thanks!

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Friday, 30 October 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link


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