What's your tolerance for blues-rock?

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This might not be the exact thread for it, but something I've been wondering: The kind of melodies that typify (for instance) Louis Armstrong's Hot Five recordings are considered blues, right? If that's the case, when did the idea of a typical blues melody transform from those kind of 32-bar things into the more familiar 12-bar I-IV-V form?

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

Pulled up behind this guy at a red light this afternoon and immediately thought of this topic. Of course I had to take a picture and show you guys.
http://i.imgur.com/1apP9Nt.jpg

Austin, Friday, 28 April 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

...before you plowed into him?

Charles "Butt" Stanton (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2017 04:10 (six years ago) link

"If that's the case, when did the idea of a typical blues melody transform from those kind of 32-bar things into the more familiar 12-bar I-IV-V form?"

I think it was kinda always there, you really got to look that alot of "rock and roll" kinda comes more out of the Mississippi blues tradition (like say Charlie Patton) which was way more stripped down both harmonically and instrumentation wise than jazz then got electrified in Chicago, Memphis and Detroit. That stuff including say the classic blues singers like Bessie Smith was happening same time that jazz happened too.

earlnash, Friday, 28 April 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

I had this early Small Faces compilation album when I was a teenager and am only seeing now that some of my favorite tracks on it (especially "Sorry She's Mine") were not singles or not A-sides.

https://www.discogs.com/Small-Faces-By-Appointment/release/2938339

timellison, Friday, 28 April 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link

Oh dear wrong thread

timellison, Friday, 28 April 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link

i mean i get why he might come across as a sorta overplaying white blooze dude, but he is actually great.

His cover of Tony Joe White's As The Crow Flies from the same album is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heD3siavZBg

the_ecuador_three, Friday, 28 April 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 29 April 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

i like harvey mandel. does that count?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 29 April 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

harvey mandel rules

a but (brimstead), Saturday, 29 April 2017 01:39 (six years ago) link

Resisting the temptation to once again post video of "Can Blue Men Sing The Whites."

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link

They missed out on a goldmine by not licensing their name to other products.

Foghat's Hog Fat would've been a big seller.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 29 April 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link

wow that's a real thing. i guess i assumed it was too good to be true

http://foghatcellars.com/

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 April 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

"Mmm, Roger, this is good stuff...notes of oak...a hint of near-cinnamon...and the finish goes down like a SLOOOW RIIIDE!"

"Fucking knock it off."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 29 April 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

One of my all-time favorite stories shared by others on ILM:

Sometime in the Summer of 1996, Foghat played after a minor-league baseball game in Louisville with Mountain and Iron Butterfly (I didn't actually witness this, unfortunately). According to my friends who were present, Foghat started the set by having the lead singer ask the audience, "Do we have your permission to JAM?!?!?" When he received a positive, enthusiastic response, he then yelled "Then jam we must!!!!" and they broke into a 20-minute version of "Slow Ride," which was basically their whole set. My friend Chris took off his shirt and twirled it 'round his head.

― hstencil, Tuesday, April 8, 2003 3:06 PM (fourteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 April 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

Forever Bad Blues Band Just Stomping

Stevolende, Saturday, 29 April 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1GSbkOT26L._SL1500_.jpg

I love this album. Very old school very bluesy kick butt album. I don't know what album the guy who said it wasn't very good was listening to. But Under The Influence ROCKS!

nomar, Saturday, 29 April 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

Resisting the temptation to once again post video of "Can Blue Men Sing The Whites."

― Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:42 AM (nineteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's an obvious thing to post, sure, but id does underline the fact that even in the sixties there was a reasonable suspicion about a lot of this stuff. And Clapton was his mate too, so there's also that.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 29 April 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

Foghat's latest effort is a masterclass in musical alchemy, reigning in a stunning diversity influences -- everything from Cream to Led Zeppelin, the blues to blues-rock -- and proffering a record that is, at turns, both powerful and poignant. It's as if the band had finally decided to kick open the proverbial oak casks, those mythical vessels which contain all the LPs that have music on them that you like, and let the influence flow.

budo jeru, Saturday, 29 April 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link

I remember listening to Foghat's 2010 album. I don't remember what it sounded like, but I remember listening to it.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 29 April 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

While I don't doubt that modern Foghat is probably a very professional live outfit, I tend to doubt it really can scratch on the original band with Lonesome Dave and Rod Price. You really can't go wrong with any old 70s Foghat or Savoy Brown.

I always loved those two pictures. The funny thing about the Rock and Roll Outlaws cover shot is the plane was a total prop for the record, they didn't tour in one.

earlnash, Saturday, 29 April 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

Keep thinking thread title reminds me of that one Le TIgre song.

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 April 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Damn right.

Mark G, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

i call bs on the person who voted "I seek out and attend gigs by the surviving members of Blodwyn Pig." i don't think any of them still tour. though this would have been cool...

On 9 May 2016, Mick Abrahams, the legendary founding guitarist with Jethro Tull, Blodwyn Pig and the Mick Abrahams Band, brought together musical friends old and new, for a night of celebration of his music.

Mick was joined on stage at London’s Borderline by special guests, who included Mungo Jerry, Rick Wakeman, Geoff Whitehorn, Clive Bunker, Elliott Randall and more. Visit's Mick's Media for exclusive pictures from the night

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 30 April 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link

as a member of Blodwyn Pig I take exception to your post

ANOTHER new album from Robin Trower??

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 30 April 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

Jump on it!

Shpilkes for a Knave (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

More Trower To Him!

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:25 (six years ago) link

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and there's another live set around.
All instrumental

Stevolende, Sunday, 30 April 2017 15:32 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

don't skip "Stormy Monday"

Brad C., Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link

More Trower To Him!

Delayed lol

Lmao Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 May 2017 01:36 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

More Blueshammerism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF6yiV8N6G4

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 15 June 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Kingfish (new blues trio) is opening for Vampire Weekend, so...is Hendrix-SRV-Buddy Guy Blues/Blues Rock to next Hipster Musical Crush?

frustration and wonky passion (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 August 2019 01:08 (four years ago) link

Jeff Healey deep cuts

calstars, Sunday, 18 August 2019 01:39 (four years ago) link

I love straight up blues. Most blues rock always sound like it was made for people that own faded "Fuck Disco" t-shirts.

Blues metal is great except when it isn't.

FUCK YOUR POTATO (Neanderthal), Monday, 19 August 2019 01:50 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Wade in the Water" by Harvey Mandel is a stone cold groove and awesome psychedelia with strings. Recent find for me and a great track.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link

yeah I just got a nice copy of Christo Redentor what an album!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link


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