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haitch (haitch), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I only played it for a few hours... to be honest I didn't like but as ronan and I agreed that's the pattern with all new pro evs... you're so comfortable in the old one that the shock of the new is always a bit disappointing... like they've somehow managed to fuck it up (oh no!!)... I was having a lot of problems maintaining possession in this one and having a lot of trouble actually getting my players to move the ways and directions I wanted them too... but that's because I was pedal-to-the-R1 constantly... when I let go of R1 and started only using it sparingly, for burts down the wing, or R2 dribbling in the centre of the park I was having a lot more success... as I think I said above successive pro evs feel like the team are finding new ways to refine their old problems... notably the ease and ubiquity of both hold-X-to-press (which they've progressively stamped out... I remember playing pro ev 4 and thinking god it's so ineffective now but really by the end of PES4's life it was possible to shut out the game completely using X + square properly...) and also the the hold-R1-ALL-the time problem... which, see above, they've put some work into...

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

it still looks the same, which was a bit of a disappointment but I guess konami feel that they've achieved a level of graphical comfort that they're happy with and now they can concentrate FULLY on tweaking other aspects... no hideous commentary that I noticed... and the menus and music are awful YAY

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link

and plus it's ALMOST HERE

(... and so is shadow of the colossus and the warriors, incidentally... the PS2 has had a great later life)

cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 16 October 2005 11:43 (eighteen years ago) link

(I am hanging out for shadow of the colossus so bad.)

I am going to get pes 5, but I do hope that I have more time to properly devote to it this "season", I never quite got to any real level of skill with pes 4.

haitch (haitch), Sunday, 16 October 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

TWO DAYS!!!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 10:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm liking what I've played on the demo so far, even if it does take getting used to. It feels a bit more fluid, the goals I've scored have been less dependent on the through ball/one on one with keeper pattern.

Also, it's harder to just keep the ball by changing by blithely changing direction at full pelt. This will probably make it harder for the people I play who like to just keep the ball until they can pass it to somebody on the six yard line and tap it in, which always irked me rather.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Friday, 21 October 2005 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

yo order has been DESPATCHED

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I scored the first free kick I got, with N Solano.

I am unintentionally committing a foul every four seconds.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i had 28 fouls in one five minute game without a single yellow card. I don't think they want you to tackle people or press or be in their vicinity.

jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 21 October 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

it's fucking hard

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 October 2005 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link

yo order has not been DELIVERED

I like how all the posts by people who now have it are just duck-in duck-outs...

c7n (Cozen), Saturday, 22 October 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

haha. there's a vague anticlimax with a new PES, always!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 October 2005 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually think I was enjoying 4 most in the last month or two!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 October 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

It's weirdly intense playing this, I find myself hunched over the controller with a furrowed brow, desperate to get a touch of the ball, then I'll get it in an attacking position, sidestep one defender then panic, run out of ideas and get shunted off the ball.

I had a couple of 3-0 wins with England in friendlies to start with that lulled me into a false sense of security.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Saturday, 22 October 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I STILL haven't had much chance to play it. I've played one match, which I won 2-0 with 2 identical diving headers. But tonight, after work, I have 17.5hours til I'm next at work, so I reckon at least 10 of those can be spent on Pro Evo (less eating time etc). I'll be the best again in no time.

Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Saturday, 22 October 2005 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link

it's so hard it almost feels like starting again.

rio natsume, Saturday, 22 October 2005 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I have resigned myself to playing it on 2 stars, 6-0 victory's are now the norm but whenever i decide to try an exhibition on 3 again movement of any kind becomes pretty much impossible. On 2 stars tho i seem to be getting the hang of dribbling which is all about being much slower and thinking about every slight movement to beat people rather than just hammering past them, it's pretty hellish but you really feel like you earned it.

jeffrey (johnson), Saturday, 22 October 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Just found out we're having a work "Pro Evo Tournament" on the 11th of November. Sounds like it should be enough time to practice PES5, but we'll be playing BOTH PES4&5! That's gonna be confusing as hell.

Craig Gilchrist (Craig Gilchrist), Saturday, 22 October 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It's weirdly intense playing this, I find myself hunched over the controller with a furrowed brow, desperate to get a touch of the ball, then I'll get it in an attacking position, sidestep one defender then panic, run out of ideas and get shunted off the ball.
I had a couple of 3-0 wins with England in friendlies to start with that lulled me into a false sense of security.

This is absolutely otm. It's like watching Liverpool. I have started picking Milan and Real Madrid to try and do better, but to no avail.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 October 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

why did they ruin my baby so?

haha just kidding but I'm still rubbish

c7n (Cozen), Saturday, 22 October 2005 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link

"footballing simulator"

c7n (Cozen), Monday, 24 October 2005 07:19 (eighteen years ago) link

PES5 (PS2) >>>>>>>>> PES5 (x-box)

despite some unforgivable slowdown this thing is LOVELY

top tip in a line of top tips to come: change your long passing type to type 4... this means that inside the crossing box (tht area of the park where it normally auto-crosses if you press O) you still retain full (power-bar) control over long passes and so can better direct crosses... mmm lovely

c7n (Cozen), Monday, 24 October 2005 17:27 (eighteen years ago) link

where do you change that setting?

I am getting into it now, I have to say, you can do some very fluid movements forward.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

button configuration

you can still use the ordinary crosses (O, Ox2, Ox3) by holding down L1 then pressing... this just gives you a nice other option, which is great for actually picking out players rather than relying on the randomness of the auto-cross

c7n (Cozen), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

if I buy a network adapter for my PS2 can I just plug and play PES5 online?

anyone down for some action if I get it going?

c7n (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I am tempted to buy one too, if I do then yes.

I think it's supposed to be easy enough to set up if you have a broadband connection already.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't you need to pay a Sony online subsription, like with XBox Live?

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

my problem is my broadband setup at home is wireless and very temperamental

I just bought the network adaptor anyway - so we'll see how this goes

I'll report back

c7n (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"With the purchase of a separate unit called the Network Adaptor (which is built into the newest system revision), some PS2 games support online multiplayer. Instead of having a unified, subscription-based online service like Xbox Live, online multiplayer on the PS2 is free, but split between publishers."

c7n (Cozen), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel the need to draw attention to a feature of the PES games that's probably not been discovered by most people.

You can rewind time in the free training/practice match mode.

So for example if your cross gets cleared by a defender you rewind to the appropriate point and instead put a high cross into the back post. This point in time becomes 'bookmarked' so you can very easily rewind over and over experiment with all the different crosses - each time with the striker and defenders in the same position so you can judge the variations properly.

Similarly you are through on goal and blast your shot over - rewind and instead try an R2 side foot shot - rewind and try to chip the keeper.

You lose the ball - rewind until you have posession back.

Wonderful.

By the way you have to press R2 AFTER pressing the shoot button to do a side foot shot.
Posted by Tom on October 27, 2005 11:37 AM.
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I had a little fiddle about with this feature a long time ago in PES4 but had completely forgotten about it... if I remember correctly it's kinda fiddly but v. useful for creating 'test conditions' where you can try difft. approaches over and over in the one situation

c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Training mode? People use this?
Maybe this explains why I'm not very good.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 27 October 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

particularly stupid-headed guardian review

c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Fortunately the more you play the more innovations you will spot, which is just as well as the game is superficially identical to its predecessor.

huh. i played my friend's version of pes5 on sunday night and noticed MANY differences almost immediately. the animation is much smoother.

foxy boxer (stevie), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

The surprisingly widespread view that PES5 is almost identical to PES4 is base idiocy.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Thursday, 27 October 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah have these people never played PES4, have they never played it every day for a whole year? fools.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

haha!

c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

This game is incredible. It's really started clicking, especially in two player, the neat passing, the long build ups for goals. It's magical. You only get two or three great chances a game, and you must make them count!

At the moment AC Milan are my preferred team.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope it'll click for me. I'm still stuck on two difficulty and any time i try on three or four i always end up with a 0-0 draw. My biggest problem is that running/dribbling used to be the strongest aspect of my game and now i am absolutely useless at it, i can still pass well. I have pretty much given up for football manager 2006 anyway.

jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

ronan otm... this is pretty much the best PES ever

glorious when it all comes together... plus the best defenders in the game are immense: john terry is a legend

still playing with arsenal as my team

c7n (Cozen), Monday, 31 October 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hello, my name is ramirete.

i`have the pes5 but i dont found a page where i can play this perfect game in the internet...so i need help, if someone know where i can play it, please send me a e-mail!

thanks!

ramirete, Monday, 31 October 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I always had this steady sense of incremental improvement, but having had my first multiplayer session at the weekend I came back and beat Blackburn 4-0 away in the Master League and subsequently went on a run of beating the top clubs. So yeah it's kind of Clicked, but I was sort of bizarrely enjoying the 0-0 drudges in a weird masochistic kind of way just because they felt real.

I would possibly have felt a bit more outraged if I didn't play as Villa all the time.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Monday, 31 October 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

two words: pro evolution soccer management.

rio natsume, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ding dong battle

rio natsume, Friday, 4 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Earlier I beat Chelsea 4-1 in the D1 Cup Final in Master League, scoring a first half hat-trick with noted complete donkey JP Angel. Those red condition arrows make a reeeeal difference.

During an earlier 3-2 league victory over Chelsea in which John Terry scored an own goal, I found myself setting the replay camera to follow his unpleasant smug face, that I might watch the exact moment when realisation dawned that he had turned the ball hilariously into his own net. You know, like Ralph Wiggum's heart bursting.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Saturday, 5 November 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I had a humorous moment last night with Portugal. After a goalmouth scramble which followed a corner, Cristiano Ronaldo eventually managed to bundle the ball into the net. However as he attempted to run off to celebrate he became entangled in the net and began writhing back and forth. This went on for a while, and then he eventually broke free and ran off celebrating............


ONLY TO FIND THE LINESMAN HAD RAISED THE OFFSIDE FLAG BUT HAD TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE CELEBRATION!

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 6 November 2005 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link

that is fantastic.

I have finally purloined a copy. should I pack up the ps2 and take it to work tomorrow?

pretentiosexual rights activist (haitch), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link

you know, just "a quick game over lunch".

pretentiosexual rights activist (haitch), Monday, 7 November 2005 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

geez gettin the game was one helluva headache(spent my allowance on my girlfriends birthday, so couldnt afford it.. had to download it!!!)...my broadbands majorly temperamental off late, only works(that too, miserably) so i sat up ALL NIGHT reconnecting to bittorrent every half an hour!! Geez i wanted it so bad!! as somebody said, it IS like starting all over again.. u cant just tear up ur opposition like PES4, but its good.. more challenging..I was amazing at 6-star wid PES4, but had to go down to 2-star for a while.. a lot of 4-0, 5-0 victories gone, n im ready for 3-star.. THIS IS AN AMAZING GAME!! they've done a great job with the subtle tweaks in graphics.. wish i didnt have so much to study for engineering, only get time after midnight!!! oh.. if anybody's up for a lil one on one, email me, n we can fix up sometime..
cheers!

Azeem the Great, Monday, 7 November 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

oh, and if anybody thinks this is game is, what was it? 'superficially reminiscent to its predecessor'.. dont believe that for an instant.. this is a whole new deal.. much more fluid, more realistic(didnt think that could be possible after PES-4, but proven wrong by technological advances again!) its an absolutely brilliant game, that has all of PES-4 and MUCH MUCH MUCH more to offer.. i only wish the ref was a bit less trigger happy and allowed a bit of physiccally, but watever, they'll come out wid a tweak for that sooner or later.. advantage of havin the PC version!

azeem the great, Monday, 7 November 2005 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link


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