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And the fact that it's just him and Hagerty is key. "Revolution Summer" could have been on Sugarshit Sharp or something and been fucked up by some other Joe or Josephina making *shit noise* on guitar!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah. The schtick quotient. It's a problem, ain't it?

For me, Spencer's borderline-horrifying attitude schtick just somehow works in PG's dumbfuck noisepunk context. Seems both appropriate and funny. Whereas it really, REALLY doesn't work for the rock/blues thing he moved on to. (Like, I can't even listen to that one song where he humiliates poor old R.L. Burside with his retarded "blues" interjections. "Snake drive!" my black ass...)

Now, I can't say how, exactly, but "Right Now!" fucking does my head in properly. It feels connected and right-on and effortlessly appealing all the way through. Course, there's nothing to the music but denatured "rock action," but it STILL kicks a million miles of flabby white ass.

And I just don't get that same feeling of effortless, exhilarating, spontaneous CORRECTNESS from "Historia". It just sounds like a group of simililarly-minded junkie-pose hipsters rotating the blues grinder while they try to figure out what to do next. Nothing special.

But, you know, that's just me...

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and Spencer would have sang "Revolution Summer" more garble-mouthed if it had been on an earlier record.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Revolution Summer" is beyond reproach. I have nothing bad to say about it. One of my very favorite Pussy Galore songs.

fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
wow, pussy galore...the godz...the shaggs...

i haven't listened to these bands in years, but MAN how i listened to them once upon a time (and pretty much around the same time too).

i wonder what i'd think of them all now. i think i got rid of my godz records for some reason.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 11 September 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Ha ha, just watching a rerun of "House" and he's playing an instrumental from "Dial M" to annoy everyone (and eventually to induce a seizure in a patient). It does sound a little annoying out of context.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 03:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ha ha ha ha

seriously, tho, where can I find historia?

Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 08:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Not a hard record to find, dude, at least not on CD. There's currently one on eBay for $2.50 Buy It Now.

I've been half-heartedly searching for a vinyl version for a few years, though

and just to weigh in, it IS their best album

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

yes it is

the galena free practitioner, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link

historia de la musica! great record. but yeah, doc supes, it's not too tough to find. i even see the LP every few months, i feel like. want a tape of it?

ian, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

found it already. I just didn't actually look for it for ten years, and Matador never mailed it to my house, so I assumed it was hard to find.

Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

There's currently one on eBay for $2.50 Buy It Now.

Not any more there isn't! ;)

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 24 January 2008 09:34 (sixteen years ago) link

That House re-run was the first time i've seen the show. Kind of an amusing surprise. I was hoping (but doubting) the thread revive was in reference to this.

LO AND BEHOLD

The Alan Milman Sect + Man-Ka-Zam were featured as well.

circa1916, Thursday, 24 January 2008 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

you Historia boosters are nuts. That record is easily their worst, right behind Right Now.

sleeve, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

WTF Right Now is awesome! I guess I would say Historia is their worst album, as in least best, cos I like the others more, but it's still a good album and I don't know why they didn't reissue it when they did the others.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not saying it's just their best, but EASILY their best. As someone said upthread, Pussy Galore in theory were awesome, and live (judging by the footage I've seen) were awesome. But come on, those records sound like shit. Historia is just an amazing rock and roll record - proto-Trux, or like the Workdogs if they were much, much better.

For some unknown reason, it's also one of those damn CDs that just won't load into iTunes for me...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 24 January 2008 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

If Historia... on LP is that scarce I should prob try and offload it cuz I never got much out of it

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 24 January 2008 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

those records sound like shit

That's what I LIKE about them! Are you really trying to say Historia sounds better than something like "Kill Yourself"? 'Cause to me, the non-production sound way better and Historia sounds like, well, a Workdogs album.

Don't know what it is about Right Now (no Julia?) but I always preferred Dial M, with Groovy Hate Fuck sitting up about 10,000 light years above it.

sleeve, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

never mind, Airport, I just remembered you think Zen Arcade sucks for the same reason. There can be no reasoning with such a stance.

sleeve, Thursday, 24 January 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

its all about sugarshit sharp

stevie, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

"But come on, those records sound like shit."

yeah, i'm with sleevey, those albums sound awesome. sugarshit sharp especially, but the other ones as well.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link

those records sound like shit

Dude, we're talking about Pussy Galore. If you want sonic clarity, go listen to Jean Michel Jarre, for cryin' out loud.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i always thought they were very artfully shitty. it takes talent to get stuff to sound good and shitty.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The guitar noise on Punch Out on Right Now is so fucking great. I should go and put that on now

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 24 January 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I still agree with myfuckingself upthread: Historia still blows. I suspect that if it actually HAD been reissued with the other stuff, there would be no contention on this point.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link

But come on, those records sound like shit. Historia is just an amazing rock and roll record

Sounding like shit doesn't necessarily preclude an amazing rock and roll record. Better produced or not, though, Historia sounds like they gave up on the project before they entered the studio. Zzzzzzzzzzz. Rob Tannenbaum (I believe) wrote a remarkable review of it in Spin, though.

Then again, my taste re: Pussy Galore are unorthodox. I only love two of their records. Right Now! sounds like shit and is an amazing rock and roll record, most amazingly on "Punch Out," the Bad Boy to the NY Dolls' "Bad Girl."

And Dial M For Motherfucker is one of the greatest albums of the 1980s. It's the pig fuck It Takes a Nation, an ADD whole that exceeds the sum of its tape fuckery, stops and starts, voices ghosting in and out, songs midwiving other songs, repeated themes, DNA strand guitar solos, radio transmissions, phone conversations, beeps, bloops, buzzes, etc. All of which aids the Pussies in rockin' the fuck out. Gawd, I adore this record!

I actually saw the beginning of that House episode but didn't stick around to hear PG. Which Dial M For Motherfucker did he play? ("DWDA" fits the description best.)

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

The guitar noise on Punch Out on Right Now is so fucking great.

Ah! A consensus is forming!

But I played that very track for a student a few weeks ago and he didn't get it. I even banged my head a bit to underline the effect. No go.

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus Dial M For Motherfucker is in the fine tradition of godlike albums with crappy posters inside, e.g. Daydream Nation (still another reason why vinyl >>>>> CDs...has a poster ever been smooshed into a CD? Prolly but I can't think of one right now. Right Now!)

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Thank you, Kevin John Bozelka, for being right about things.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

like the Workdogs if they were much, much better

yeah, sorta my impression. was kinda expecting more hagerty vocals and less Spencer ham. So I haven't really figured out what i think of yet.

Dr. Superman, Thursday, 24 January 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

God bless you Kevin John Bozelka. I didn't wanna be all contrarian, but Dial M is a serious masterpiece. Actually pretty tuneful, in a weird way. I was kinda surprised by how obnoxious DWDA sounded in the House episode, 'cause I never thought of it as *that* annoying. One of my favorite albums of the 80's as well.

dlp9001, Friday, 25 January 2008 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't remember the last time i actually listened to pussy galore. it's been a long time. other than groovy hate fuck, which i feel is its own entity in a weird way, the 2nd side of sugarshit sharp is definitely the thing i have played most over the years. i can't understand anyone not loving that sequence of songs and the sound and everything about it. so amazing to me.

i'd probably like historia more now than when it came out. i LIKED it, but i didn't play it much. and i sold my copy years ago, so that must mean something. or it did at the time. i definitely thought it sounded cool.

scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, I didn't mean for this to become an aesthetic debate - I love the new Times New Viking, Sic Alps, all the prime ear Siltbreeze stuff, scratchy old blues 78s...I'm not against great music 'sounding like shit.' My problem with PG's albums are just that they render almost every song an incomprehensible blur. Dial M is an exception, I grant you, and a good record, but not as good as Historia. I don't like Sugarshit Sharp at all.

I stand by my opinion of Zen Arcade (don't liked it, never did), but offer Replacements's Tim as being an amazing album despite one of the worst production jobs in rock history.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link

It's probably worth noting that the original CD of Dial M included all of Sugarshit Sharp except for Yu Gong. As a result, I've always thought of SS as an extension of Dial M.

dlp9001, Friday, 25 January 2008 01:46 (sixteen years ago) link

"I don't like Sugarshit Sharp at all."

but why? it's so good.

i always liked how tim sounded. and i love zen arcade. we have way different ears. which is cool.

"It's probably worth noting that the original CD of Dial M included all of Sugarshit Sharp except for Yu Gong."

that's just friggin' idiotic.

scott seward, Friday, 25 January 2008 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, and the CD added a version of Devo's "Penetration Of The Centerfold" in its place! Which is even MORE idiotic! The only place I have that awesome version of Yu-Gung now is on my original cassette.

sleeve, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Groovy Hate Fuck has always been closest to my heart of any PG.

libcrypt, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The only place I have that awesome version of Yu-Gung now is on my original cassette.
Me too. Bought it when Sound Warehouse went out of business. I don't have a cassette player hooked up right now, though.

Mike Dixn, Friday, 25 January 2008 07:53 (sixteen years ago) link

My Sugarshit Sharp CD has both Yu Gung & Penetration In The Centerfold on it, I have the Mute reissues from the late 90s tho.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 25 January 2008 08:10 (sixteen years ago) link

"Groovy Hate Fuck has always been closest to my heart of any PG."

What he said.

Nate Carson, Friday, 25 January 2008 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Pussy Galore Love!

Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 25 January 2008 10:33 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Live In The Red is destroying me right now. I never got a chance to hear it before. Everything I could want in a live album. I hope there's a fight on side 2.

sleeve, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, s'great, and Slo Pig's on there, isn't it? Nice to have that official and all.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 06:07 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

any fans of pussy galore,please get in touch wanted live audio/shows I don't have

I've just got these:

AUDIO
SHITHAUS(pre-PUSSY GALORE) 1984-85 "live crush" cassete?? 60'

demos 1985 20'

1985-86 Oven Bait(Original Version) 60' *

1985-86 Unauthorized Oven Bait ACR007 60'
1986 1 YR Live 70' *

1986 Exile on main St 60'

Exile on main Street Unmixed Version 1986(DIFFERENT THAN THE CASSETTE VERSION) 60Â’

1-6-86 JedÂ’s?,NEW Orleans,Lousiana 30'*

8-6-86 the Complex,Washington DC 25Â’

10-16-86 the rat,Boston 37' *

9-19-86 hoosier ballrom,Indianapolis IN 45'*

CBGB,NY halloween 1986 3 tracks

CBGB 1986?love you live 7"(bootleg,4 songs live)

8-5-87 the channel, Boston 30'

10-13-87 Brewery, Raleigh, NC 40' *

31-1-87 maxwell's,Hoboken,NJ 40' MASTER=CDR1

7-26-87,asylum,NYC 25'

31-7-87 anthrax,Norwalk,CT 40' CDR1=CDR2

1987?right now cassete extra 2 live tracks 7'

11-18-88 Maxwell's,Hoboken, NJ 30' 1ST= CDR1 *

12-1-88 kennedy's club,Vienna,Austria 40' 1ST GEN=CDR1 *

22-1-88 Limelight,Kortrijk,Belgium 50Â’ CASS

1-8-88 CBGB's, NYC 30' MASTER=CDR2 *

Osaka,Japan ?-?-88 30Â’

?-?-88 Bonn,Germany 30' *

27-1-88 bad club,Hannover,Germany 30' MASTER=CDR1 *

11-17-88 Night Shift Cafe, Naugatuck, CT 35' *

17-11-88 Nightshift CAfe,Naugatuck,Conn. 1st GEN=CDR full show+interview

11-24-88 tropic,club,Bristol,UK 35'*

1-17-88 Effaanar,Eindhoven, Holland 45'*

12-2-88 the Boardwalk,Manchester,UK(this friday night only bootleg LP) 45'

23-2-88 Mean Fiddler,London,UK(cum into my mouth bootleg LP) 30'

30-11-88 drohnland,Nurnberg,Germany 30' AUD3=CDR1

23-11-88 fabrik,hamburg,Germany 70' MASTER=CDR1 *

26-11-88 rose club,Koln,Germany 60' MASTER=CDR1 *

30-1-88 the forum,Enger,Germany 30' *

17-7-89 the probe hollywood,CA 40' MASTER=CDR1 *

3-8-89 ground zero,Boston 45'

24-7-89 old avalon theatre,Minneapolis 40' AUD4=CDR1

?-july-89 apocalypse club,Toronto,Canada 60' 1ST GEN=CDR2

5-8-89 CBGB,NY “live in the red”(last show) 40’ ANY AUDIENCE RECORDINGS??

7-25-90 peel sessions 15' *(probably live tracks from a show of 1989)

VIDEO
(V)Maximum Penetration (o) 40'(X)(24) DVD

(V)1-3-87 CBGB,NY 30'(86)(24) DVD

(V)1989 british UK TV (PIG SWEAT)live in London 88+int 5'(86)

(V)Bad Club,Hannover,Germany 27-2-88(Jon Spencer stops taping,date probably as 27-1-88??) 10'

(V)9-7-89 Axis club,Forth Worth,TX 40'(78)(86) DVD

(V)dick johnson clip 5'(86) DVD

(V)22-7-89 Central Tavern,Seattle,WA(Camera Effects) DVD 40Â’

almudeno, Thursday, 6 November 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

yay

admrl, Friday, 12 June 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

classic Jon, Julie, Neil & Bob lineup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYhTplwlLhQ

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 May 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

From the Teenage Riot video! At 00:12 you can see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPytYrYqDbA

fpsa, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link


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