Is this the Juno thread?

I made it less than 10 minutes into Thumbsucker before I put it back in its Netflix envelope, so...no.

hey guys i don't want to see this

me too. also i liked thumbsucker.

It's better than Thumbsucker, but that's not much of an accomplishment really.

I liked Michael Cera ("Actually I try really hard," was the best line in the whole movie.)

I could not stand the main character.

these are both v. OTM
and they give away that michael cera line in the commercials!

i cant believe how much kimya dawson they crammed into this bullshit

-- bell_labs, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 05:44 (Yesterday) Link

holy shit so otm. so now i know what i've been uh, missing? fuck me. so, so bad.

anyway... so many hate-able things about this movie, quite a coup that I came away somehow kinda liking it. as noted above, some genuinely touching & funny scenes. also, props for not turning Bateman (or Garner, for that matter) into a monster.

that sonic youth record is just noise

went to see this last night at v. popular movie theatre and it was sold out!! that must be a good sign...

saw this on friday because my mom wanted to go for her b-day, and surprisingly, i didn't really hate it. lots of cringey things in it (way too much music and embarassing music references, pretty easy to see where the plot was going), but made up for with strong performances all around

during the opening credits, the song reminded me of barry louis polisar, this guy who made offbeat kid's music and who played at my elementary school in maryland, made me wonder what he was up to these days. yesterday i look up the soundtrack and i see the song was by polisar after all. today i look up his website and he's still going strong, playing in the maryland area and putting out kid's albums. i can still recite many of his songs from memory, i might need to buy a couple of his cds

The director and writer deserve a dart in the ass for the "All babies want to get borned" scene alone.

I agree. That's not a good sequence.

This movie is the most redeemed movie ever, judging by how many people (myself included) have gone the "I liked it better, I should have hated this" route.

I'm firmly in the "I mostly hated it, I should have liked it better" camp.

Yeah, I am in the camp that expected to hate this more than Garden State and Little Miss Sunshine combined, so I should hardly be surprised I didn't.

oh i definitely liked it more than garden state and little miss sunshine

also michael cera was very good and more of a presence than i expected after jaymc's comments upthread

yeah I would watch this again whereas GS & LMS not so much. Not that I necessarily hated the other two, just, you know... whatever.

The cutesy-folksy-Wes Andersony soundtrack = bleccch

Watching it a second time I realized ... the last entire 15 minutes of the movie is one big montage set to those shitty songs. There are, like, five in a row.

If you watch it a third time, you'll realize that the entire 90 minutes is one long montage of moldy peaches.

after pro-deregulation corporatism diguised as satire thank u for smoking and pro-life disguised as indie flick juno what right wing position will jason reitman make hip in his next movie?

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"i have to tell you something... the surge is working!"

pro-life disguised as indie flick

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citizen ruth was not pro-life

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"all it takes is tamper-proof id cards"

citizen ruth was not pro-life

Or pro-choice.

or pro-abortion

(to coin a phrase)

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colonia decuma corrigo... it's latin for "estate tax reform"

There are, like, five in a row.

Are "those shitty songs" all by the Moldy Peaches? cuz they're one of the few bands of the last 10 years worth loving.

Then again, I can't tell "Nasty" from all those interchangeable Prince proteges' hits.

Janet's "Nasty" or Vanity 6's "Vanity"?

The Velvets' "I'm Sticking With You" is in there somewhere, sounding arch and coy in this company.

The Moldy Peaches and Spielberg. You pick the weirdest shit to love.

I hope they score his Lincoln movie

Wait, I'd assumed the songs were all Kimya Dawson. Are some of them Moldy Peaches? (Not a genre connoisseur obv.)

I dunno, if "pro-life" = "opposed to abortion being legal," I'm not sure the movie takes this stance per se.

citizen ruth was not pro-life

Or pro-choice.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, January 7, 2008 6:07 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

uh?

it really is.

i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film

thank you for smoking pissed me off more than any movie ive seen maybe ever, and took a similar aw-shucks stance - 'yeah smoking kills but itd be pretty gay to try and regulate it!'

That's what you get making a movie based on a Christopher Buckley novel.

uh?

it really is.

The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.

Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan.

"i think by treating it as a non-viable option you're chipping away at support for it, but i havent seen the film"

I don't think the movie treats it as non-viable option (in fact, in contrast to Knocked Up it's ACTUALLY brought up as an option.) The one actual pro-life person in the movie is portrayed as being totally ridiculous. Of course, the Planned Parenthood people are treated as being pretty doofus-y too which is kind of sad.

The only thing the movie endorses is the heroine's delight in financially exploiting the wingbats on both sides.

i think it's too "equal opportunities" in its satire, but it's def pro-choice.

"Stay away from Charlie Wilson's War, ethan."

Good advice for everyone.

Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course. Calls to mind the Clinton figleaf "SAFE, LEGAL AND RARE" -- like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare.

It's just the choice Ruth makes at the end has nothing to do with whether or not to have her baby.

If you like the music in Juno, Morbs, you should double-time it to a screening of Once.

i think the movie pretty clearly doesnt think it's a good idea for ruth to have the baby, they just sidestep it by having her miscarry

"like any Dem pols are breaking their backs to make it rare"

You are kidding, right? You don't think that trying to provide adequate family planning/birth control isn't trying to make it rare?

and while the pro-choice wiccan lesbians are pretty goofy they arent as outright repugnant as the pro-lifers

depends how you feel about wiccan lesbos.

i dunno obviously youre getting close to bullshit south park style 'fair-minded' satire with that but if the pro-choicers were more saintly it wouldve been dismissable propaganda

"Any crit of Planned Parenthood is heresy, of course."

I don't think that the movie's view of Planned Parenthood or the single pro-life girl is really intelligent enough to be called a crit anyway, but my experience with pro-lifers who stand outside of clinics is that they ARE wingbats while most people I've known who worked at those clinics were pretty normal so yeah I'd say it was a pretty lame "equal opportunity criticism" or whatever.