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I was transfixed by the huge fly crawling around Geoff Hoon's head while he mentally transformed what everyone said into what he wanted to hear.

Apparently saying "I can apologise" is the same as apologising.

Kwame Kwei-Armah pissed me off with his "There are billions of people starving and that is more important than fox hunting" response. I'm sorry mate but you're there to answer the questions asked and debate the issues raised so get off the moral high ground or fuck off to the World Hunger Debate.
By his standards the entire concept of political discussion is a waste of time until everyone gets a bite to eat.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i doubt it's billions either

Brigadier Rainham Steele, Mrs (blueski), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Geoff Hoon actually managed the impossible - he made Ruth Lea seem almost human

Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the BBC are giving a lot of attention to Ms Hewitt's 'apology' last night - frankly, is this really that important? people seem to get so obsessed about an apology they lose track of what it is that actually requires one. i'm not interested in Blair or anyone else having to say sorry because it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the mess they've created. still it was good to see how much opposition persists and the anger and frustration of people spilling out (but not violently of course).

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I totally agree, what was galling was the fact that that Margaret Thatcher Wannabe Bitch would rather risk getting her arse royally kicked from the administration (which will undoubtably happen) for apologising on Blair's behalf rather than admit she/they were fucking wrong for not apologising when doing so would have still been pertinent.

mzui, Friday, 8 October 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

As I always say inside my head when 'please accept our apologies for this delay' comes over the railway tannoy, saying you're sorry means you're going to try not to do it again.

Makes Blair look a twit, either way.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Blair's own words - about how this report justified to an *even greater extent* the invasion - make him ever more a laughing stock.

As someone said on 'this week', it'd be a ludicrous situation where aggressive 'intent' and not action can be a cause for war. Why hasn't Blair been pilloried and laughed out of the country for making such a statement?

Voices of sanity on that QT Panel: Matthew Parris and Jody Dunn. And yes, Patricia Hewitt was appallingly predictable in parroting the Blair line.

Tom May (Tom May), Friday, 8 October 2004 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently the edition of Question Time before the US election (28th? I dunno) is going to be from Florida. Michael Moore is going to be a guest. Hmmm. I can't seem to find out who else will be on though.

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Special editions of Question Time are one of my favourite things.

Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

RIchard Littlejohn (!), Sidney Blummenthal and that tosser who wrote lots of Bush's speechers, David Frum, will be on QT in Florida next week.

Anybody see last night's? I actually whooped when Michael Hessaltine told that Daily Mail woman were to get off about the EU. Dimmers was also particularly mischievous.

Pete W (peterw), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

ah Melanie Phillips - i didn't expect her to sound like that actually, stern schoolteacher style. i couldn't pay much attention to it last night. i shall look forward to lampooning Littlejohn next week from the comfort of my own settee tho.

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is Caroline Flint and where have they been hiding her? For once, one of the Blair Babes was a bit of a Babe, thick as pigshit tho

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Overall, Clement Freud won

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

You could play a Richard Littlejohn drinking game.

Drink when he says:
"You couldn't make it up!"
"Cottaging!"
"Hell in a handcart!"
"The PC brigade!
"Guardianista!"

Drain your glass when he says:
"Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"

robster (robster), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I havn't seen/heard Michael Moore do intelligent debate before - the nearest I've seen have all been straw-man bluster. SHould be interesting. Mind you, if that Littlejohn feller is on there, we won't get much intelligent debate that night anyway.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Tatchell just talked in slogans last night (although Dimbleby's treatment of him was predictably cursory).

Why haven't the Left got a lucid, authoritative spokesperson in this country (Tony Benn is too old now)? One is sorely needed.

Venga, Friday, 22 October 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

They don't get invited on Question Time - there's your answer.

What did you do in the war, Dadaismus? (Dada), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I think George Galloway thinks he's it.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Caroline Flint was rediculously unintelligent - if I was Tony I wouldn't have let her on. Tatchell was alright, he certainly seemed passionate, although speaking at twice the volume of the other guests is always a turnoff. Is Clement Freud going blind?

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Friday, 22 October 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, Flint was dumb.

It is funny how old Tories become loveable lefties, viz. Heseltine's slapping down of the odious Phillips. (It is funny also that she was a Guardian columnist for so long!)

I saw Michael Moore on QT once and was so impressed that I rang the Corporation and told them how good it had been.

Hey, maybe that's why they've asked him back!

the bellefox, Saturday, 23 October 2004 09:23 (nineteen years ago) link


so OTM about ex tories/government ministers becomin lovable.

the snag seems to be that any member of the current cabinet, backbench labour types etc are aware that the pm may watching and have 2 constantly tow the line no matter how much the audience groans, dimbleby tears into them, fellow panelists laugh and suchlike. they've become just as toothless as the tories on the show were in the 80's. the current crop of blues couldn't give anything like as much of a toss what happens give or take, so they can kind of say what they like. i've seen the likes of boateng consistently reduced to the most simpering wet ball-less geeks, and felt sympathy even for tebbit at one point in the past few years. watching robin cook desperately unconvincingly trying to defend his position in early 2003 while sitting next to benjamin zephaniah was *agony*. he apparantly turned to bj as the credits rolled to say 'i agree with every word you said, i'm quitting next week' then did just that!

piscesboy, Saturday, 23 October 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Caroline Flint's website is lilac coloured, and she has a photo gallery.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 23 October 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.carolineflint.co.uk/gallery/gallery-large11.htm

the caption on this is great...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Saturday, 23 October 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It is on tonight, then?

the bellefox, Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The American edition - can't wait!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

oh lawks i need to get my housemate to record this

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd forgotten about this! That's something to look forward too, and hopefully take my mind off the fact that I still have no costume for a party tomorrow night...

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Go as Michael Moore!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 28 October 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, that might not be so hard. Anyway, I can tell this is going to be good already. (I'm going as Lincoln - I wanted something US themed. I was going to go as Ulysses S Grant, because he had a beard and wore his hair kind of long at times, but the thought of making a unionist uniform was kinf of intimidating.)

Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Fucking Hell, I never thought I'd say this but Littlejohn was probably the second most sane and coherent member of that panel (the woman from the Miami voting league thing barely putting a foot wrong all the way through). The most depressing thing was the remaining three trying to make every single question a party issue even when it wasn't (to Dimbleby's obvious annoyance) and Moore's tendency to make anti-British 'jokes' whenever he could (Also, laughing at your own 'jokes' is extremely bad form, surely? Especially if no-one else is?).

The highlight though was Moore confidently stating that Kerry will make the better President because he's going to properly go and hunt down terrorists, wherever they are. "Dude, Where's Your Credibility?" Haven't you just made millions from a film saying the very opposite?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/default.stm

Watch again folks

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, don't. It's abhorent whooping and cheerleading.

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I only saw a bit of this, but that Isreali woman who basically said that all Arabs were evil made me SO angry.

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I was astonished that her comments went completely unchallenged by the panel, but the whole show was pathetic: moore, frum and blummenthal lacked basic eloquency and made littlejohn look bright in comparison (although when he effectively accused moore of treason for failing to support his elected leader I couldn't help but bellow 'hypocritical cunt' at the tv).

littlejohn would NEVER get on Question Time in the UK, which just shows what a poor shower this lot were.

the audience was woefully ignorant and incapable of expressing points that weren't related directly to their own experiences (and even that was done badly). it was as if they'd never seen a political debate before.

the miami voting league woman was terrific though. she brooked no shit.

Pete W (peterw), Friday, 29 October 2004 08:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, it was funny how different it was from UK Question Time.

I am still wondering about the pagan woman. Why was her voted discounted? Not because she was pagan, surely? She seemed to imply that.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:58 (nineteen years ago) link

that Isreali woman who basically said that all Arabs were evil made me SO angry.

oh god. i almost threw my glass at the tv at that point. i can't believe that no one commented.

xpost - and pagan woman was nuts, too. i'm assuming she meant that her vote was discounted in that bush stole the election despite the popular vote.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 October 2004 09:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it was rubbish. The questions were rubbish (who would Bin Laden vote for?) and Michael Moore was rubbish and the audience was rubbsih and they hooted and hollered and generaly showed how civilized Mr Didcot-Parkway of Cheltenham and other great British audience members really are. It was like MTV Unplugged with questions. So I switched back over and watched 'Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion'. The only thing I liked was when Dimbleby referred to a Marilyn Manson-type dude as 'the gentleman in black'. Other audience members just assumed he meant someone else.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 29 October 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link

You people are nuts for liking the voting-agency-lady. She got worse and worse as it went on. That bit where she started banging on about religion was insufferable.

What's wrong with scoring party points? We need our people to be as partisan as possible. Moore was not, mostly, on fire, but he had a few better gags than anyone else, and when he takes a verbal swing at the enemy it gets me up and enthused with the blood of the battle. He is our commando guerilla comedy warrior of cynicism and low down dirty cunning and I'm backing him to the hilt any old time he wants to take down one of the enemy.

the bluefox, Friday, 29 October 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

PF, you never cease to amaze me, i had no idea of yr MM love...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I only saw the first ten minutes and the last two. MM's contributions in those bits were not scintillating. Perhaps he got better. I did notice his voice was very deep and raspy tho' compared to what I remember. Did he have a cold or something?

The audience was annoying - whooping/jeering at every soundbite or before the speaker had a chance to finish their argument.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

also.. the crazy older lady with drawn-on eyebrows and a red, white, and blue jacket hollering about how clinton was actually the one responsible for letting bin laden get away. i thought (hoped?) that she was going to have a seizure.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw a bit of it but found it so Jerry Springerish I had to go to bed. They should have forced the audience to watch a couple of episodes of Proper Question Time before filming began to give them an idea of how we like our audiences and panel members to behave. Romy & Michelle was way better, but Ally didn't laugh at it much, so I didn't make him switch back to it.

Madchen (Madchen), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't like the voting lady much either, especially when she paused for an uncomfortably long time before saying "incarnation", and it was completely not the right word.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

all of the audience were like hilarious caricatures. there was the feisty young cuban woman who made no sense about voting cards; the moody goth who just said 'boxcutters'; the woman who was really a man talking about personal liberty.

i've realised i liked the voting woman mainly because of her eyebrow usage.

Pete W (peterw), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

the moody conservative goth: "so what if weapons of mass destruction weren't found. you could walk on a plane with boxcutters."

ok. lock everyone up and have done with it. we're all capable of walking on to a plane.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I am surprised about Ally. I didn't know he was such a misery-guts.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I watched this with my mum and she pointed out there was a lot of screaming etc. Apart from the first 10 mins I was listening to the radio and put the subtitles on so from those opening moments it didn't seem that bad considering there is an election next week, the country being far more divided etc. (also there is a lot more cheering in US shows).

I liked Michael Moore's answer to the man who suggested that he wouldn't want war under ANY circumstances.

'I am still wondering about the pagan woman. Why was her voted discounted? Not because she was pagan, surely? She seemed to imply that.'

oh that is what she was saying.


I really got bored from the question about Blair onwards so I didn't get through all of it.


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Moore was disappointing, he came over as smaug and complacent. But still infinitely preferable to Littlejohn, who's comment that Moore was a modern day 'Lord Haw-Haw' was unbelievably offensive but washed over the panel and audience, probably as it's such a British reference.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't get the Lord Haw-Haw reference, but laughed anyway.

Cathy (Cathy), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

British pro-Nazi propagandist who broadcast in English from Germany during WWII.

Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 29 October 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link


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