"Aliens" : Some nice effects, but actually kind've a crap film.

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and what an ending! the surprise alien mother attack at the end (when ripley gets into the exoskeleton), i mean come on man. come. on.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, the whole "running through the ship before it goes kablooey" ship....didn't we cover that in the last film?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link

You're back to arguing against the obviously formulaic, which will ruin your appreciation of the movie every time.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm rooting for the aliens, if that's what you mean.

that's pretty much the subtext of EVERY ilxor post you've ever written, alex!

:-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, when the Queen Beastie gets sucked out into deep space, but only manages to slip away with Ripley's fetching Reebok pump (or whatever she was wearing). Weak.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

come on, you can't go wrong with a self-destruct climax

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, when the Queen Beastie gets sucked out into deep space, but only manages to slip away with Ripley's fetching Reebok pump (or whatever she was wearing).

Brilliantly parodied in the MST3K movie. So I will have nothing said against the original.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

If only Newt had been flayed alive and chopped into mcnuggets, this film would be way better.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I really need to get this DVD

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

What was the name of the cat in the first one?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

The only "marines battling aliens" film I like more is Starship Troopers, which has another kind of subtext entirely.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The third and fourth installments really did suck a big space bone, though, can we all agree on that?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Jonesy the cat.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

definitely, but go into any movie chatroom worldwide and Fincher bonesmokers will tell you it's the best in the series.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link

bonesmokers!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link

On another matter entirely, why can't they leave The Exorcist alone? Why another abortive sequel?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

xxpost

It's certainly the best-*looking*.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Ebert: "one of the best-looking bad movies I have ever seen."

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I will watch the Paul Schrader cut.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that an actual quote, Harold?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

It is.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Bishop just took one for the team. Milky vomit. Time for the robot loader battled...which is dumb/

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:49 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm... for some reason I can't find that Ebert review online.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

but there's this one:

http://www.suntimes.com/ebert/greatmovies/alien.html

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Why would an industrial forklift loader -- presumably designed to lift bulky stuff -- come with built in flame-throwers?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I believe you, Harold, don't sweat it.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Because he's a COOL ROBOT!

Oh, there's no talking to you.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The whole sucked outta the airlock scene is shit. I'm sorry.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Here we go... an excerpt.

"ALIEN 3 is one of the best-looking bad movies I have ever seen. It is a triumph of art direction and a disaster of screenwriting, and the eyes appreciate it more than the mind. Watching it in the moment, we are absorbed. After it's over, we are disappointed, because what actually happens in the movie is so much less interesting than where it happens and how it looks while it's happening."

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/alien_20.html

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

It is a triumph of art direction and a disaster of screenwriting

The fat man nails it!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

GOD I HATE NEWT!!!!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Why would an industrial forklift loader -- presumably designed to lift bulky stuff -- come with built in flame-throwers?

you can't tell me those flamethrowers weren't useful

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

this is the thread where alex watches aliens and we try to convince him to like it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't dispute that alien > aliens >> alien 3 >>>>>>>>>>> alien resurrection

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

More recently, I'm guessing...

http://www.planetavp.com/amr/films/a2/carriehennat22.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/djfl/1015/101540b2.jpg

Doesn't this picture make you just want to root for the aliens?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

aliens 3 and 4 were pretty turdy, and let's not even get into aliens vs predator

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that Adam Ant?

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

adam ant vs predator

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:00 (nineteen years ago) link

you can't tell me those flamethrowers weren't useful

Of course they were useful. Flame-throwers are damn useful tools. Hell, I could certainly use one right now. But why would a space-age forklift come equipped with one? That's my question.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I kind of liked #4 when it came out, I guess because my expectations were so low, and it seemed like kind of a clever twist on some of the conventions of the series. But then I saw it a little while ago on TV, and yeah, it's pretty lame-o.

(Winona is at her loveliest in that movie, though.)

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

you never know when an angry alien mama might come a-knockin'! (xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, but the manufacturers of Space Age John Deere equpiment (or whomever) probably wouldn't have anticipated such an instance.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link

But why would a space-age forklift come equipped with one?

Space-age palette wrapping is a motherfucker.

― Harold Media (kenan), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link

for welding shit! lift big heavy shit and weld it, it's a design miracle really.

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, the stupidest part about #4: how they crash a spaceship at the end, causing a gigantic explosion that probably destroyed an entire country and created a dust cloud that'll kill millions of people (as, it is said, even a small asteroid impact would do in real life) -- and they're all, "You did it! You saved the Earth!!"

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link

...othewise you'd have to lift stuff hold it while another guy came with like a footstool and the torch, totally inefficient

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:09 (nineteen years ago) link

btw i saw eurotrip tonight which was pretty funny. slocki do you like EUROTRIP??

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

also i drank a lot of wine

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 20 August 2004 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link

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