Lindsey Buckingham / Christine McVie - June 9, 2017

Buck and Perfect worked on these songs together. Then they got the ol' rhythm section to record them. Stevie wasn't involved in the writing.

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God just retire

Thanks, bro.

I wonder if Mick and John will be performing on the tour? If so, I'm buying a ticket

$125 for "rear orchestra" seats, before service charges and taxes? This album better be good

1. Sleeping Around the Corner, Stevie?
2. (How I Really)Feel About You, Stevie
3. In My World, There's No Stevie
4. Red Sun (That's What We Call Stevie)
5. Love is Here To Stay Now That Stevie Is Gone
6. Too Far Gone To Care About Stevie
7. Lay Down For Free, Free From Stevie
8. Game of Pretend That Stevie Doesn't Exist
9. On With the Show, Without Stevie
10. Carnival Begin, Stevie End

For that price it better be Rumors part II

Where does Lindsey end and Stevie begin

i paid more than that for actual Mac last year or the year before.

in a huge stadium

Mac without cheese.

The cover looks like one page from a FMac tour programme, other pages have Mick with Stevie, etc.

John stands alone, and by "alone" I mean with a lager.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51NYX6WjNcL.jpg

Mac without cheese.

― Mark G, Wednesday, April 12, 2017 6:52 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Heh, well that's certainly one way of looking at it!

oh man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwBy3TvzPEU

holy shit this is fucking awesome, they need to change the cover immediately

Very nice. Very LB, but I can hear how CM tempers his approach.

yeah, diggin' this, hope the single's an indication of things to come rather than an outlier

I like how it has the same beat as Trouble

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The album sleeve looks really naff, definitely. It looks like it was knocked up in a couple of hours by a record label art department in 1988.

does it matter whether two musicians whose collecive age is over 140 years approved a naff sleeve?

Maybe if they expect anyone under the age of 70 to pick it up and give it a listen?

those listeners will likely stream it

Or would, if they hadn't wussed out from calling it a Fleetwood Mac record. They must be seriously expectng to make a lot of money on this forthcoming "final" tour.

why didn't they call it a fleetwood mac record

why

Well, it's clear to me that the rest of the band wanted to make a record but Stevie didn't. Stevie is going to be joining the band for a potentially lucrative tour and obviously they don't want to fuck that up, so in order to prevent hurt feelings and to ensure said lucrative tour goes ahead as planned they wussed out from calling this a Fleetwood Mac record/were forced to put this out as something other than a Fleetwood Mac record, thus denying the record the audience it could have had if it were actually being released as what it is.

Personally, I would have released this as a Fleetwood Mac record and stuck a sheep adorned with a Madonna mic onstage.

Nicks has also said it costs too much fucking money to record an album in 2017, which is a strange remark considering they got several home studios and produce themselves.

Absolutely! Also she said something along the lines of "people don't buy albums anymore", but the demographic that Fleetwood Mac would mostly appeal to in 2017 would actually buy the physical product. I can just picture those at the Steve Hoffman Retirement Home for Lovers of Talking About Pet Sounds arguing over which is the best pressing.

Besides, she would only have needed to contribute three songs, or be in the studio for a fortnight like she was on Tango in the Night. The press about it being the first album from the five-piece Mac line-up for 30 years would have phenomenal and led to far more exposure than this record's gonna get. A wasted opportunity.

Lindsey saying this could be their last album definitely intensifies the wasted opportunity

does it matter whether two musicians whose collecive age is over 140 years approved a naff sleeve?

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:59 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe if they expect anyone under the age of 70 to pick it up and give it a listen?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:20 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

josh otm, i haven't bothered checking out any of LB's recent solo albums just because of the awful covers. a stupid reason, for sure, but not uncommon.

They're great! The covers, too. OK, maybe not Seeds We Sow, which is very much akin to this one:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ca/Seedswesow.jpg/440px-Seedswesow.jpg

But I like this one, especially that it is out of focus:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Lindseybuckingham_giftofscrews.jpg/440px-Lindseybuckingham_giftofscrews.jpg

josh otm, i haven't bothered checking out any of LB's recent solo albums just because of the awful covers. a stupid reason, for sure, but not uncommon.

― flappy bird, Saturday, April 15, 2017 2:32 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the hell? check them out ffs

i know...

yeah they are both really great

anyway, is Mac touring this year outside of this stupid East/West coast mega show with the goddamned Eagles?

This isn't nearly as shit as I was expecting when I pressed play on that video. Also, nice nod to the classic 87 AH! "Big Love" samples in the track.

haha it's so sad this isn't a FM release when will that band ever get a commercial breakthrough :O

song is good

Looking forward to this but my god that is cover is crap.

The album cover I mean.

It's a really good song with all the tasty rhythm section work we've come to expect from Fleetwood Mac, the bass and drums in this case having that lovely 'Dreams' groove.

I just love that this song scans as "classic" Mac (late '70s imperial phase production/rhythm work) but is also just this weird-ass Lindsey thing

Everyone's talking about Lindsey, but this is also Christine's first significant studio recording in a very long time. Looking forward to it.

I just love that this song scans as "classic" Mac (late '70s imperial phase production/rhythm work) but is also just this weird-ass Lindsey thing

― bunny slopes, Sunday, April 16, 2017 1:39 PM (fifty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Everyone's talking about Lindsey, but this is also Christine's first significant studio recording in a very long time. Looking forward to it.

― Lee626, Sunday, April 16, 2017 5:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. It's also the first Fleetwood Mac album for over a decade, which is all the more reason to get excited.

love love love the single. puzzled/alarmed by the tour announcement, which currently has the buckingham mcvie tour skipping la (and ny), maybe because la (and ny) have the classic west east thingy at baseball stadiums with the eagles, but that's going to make me jealous of the rest of the country which gets to see them in not-a-baseball-stadium. please fix this, lindsey and christine, once you are done fixing the album cover kthxbye.

yeah, wish they were coming to the bay area.

also, there WAS a Mac EP (download only) a few years back. It was good. It was completely overlooked.

yeah weird that this is never mentioned (although I cannot remember anything about it myself)

"Sad Angel" is a fine song that I listen to often.

that's a song that somewhat succeeds in establishing an interesting sonic environment but ultimately I don't find the narrative captivating

I don't mean to be negative, I'm just slightly disappointed bcz I love Christine McVie

anyone catching them on the tour?

haha, this first track uses a "motown" drum loop that's packaged with logic pro (and probably some others, but i recognize that one bc i've used it before). its also at the beginning of a tame impala song.

It's a good record, it's great to have Fleetwood Mac back.

yeah did you see rage against the machine are also on tour

saw them at the greek theatre in la tonight. buckingham is such a dominating stage presence that it felt more like a buckingham show with mcvie helping out than a buckingham mcvie show. also, her voice was not in a good place. she sounded like she was struggling all night. a little sad. it was still really nice to hear her give "wish you were here" a go. he talks too much and is boring and plays "never going back again" as a frighteningly slow dirge. the backing band (two guitarists who are longtime buckingham/mac regulars and a rhythm section who are not mick and john) came out after four songs and breathed some life onto the stage. "sleeping around the corner" from the new album was great in a way that made me wish they had totally fleetwood mac'd it up in the studio. that was my highlight of the night, along with a fully credible and fun go at "tusk." the set was about half fleetwood mac, half buckingham/mcvie, and two buckingham solo tunes thrown in. they ended quietly, with mcvie on piano singing a good ballad from the new album called "game of pretend," which she introduced by saying "this is not 'songbird,'" which was either a joke or an apology, i couldn't tell. glad i went. not sure what i was expecting. probably pretty much what i got.

"Game of Pretend" is a solid album closer.

Well, all "Sleeping Around the Corner" was missing to make if full Mac was Stevie!

It was totally the Bucky show here as well. I could barely hear Mcvie's keyboard playing, and she felt very much a supporting role. Having seen lots of Buckingham live, plus Mac, I think it would have been fine had she just been rolled out as needed to sing Everywhere, Little Lies, and Hold Me.

She closed the show with that same quip about Songbird by the way. Likewise, I couldn't tell if she was joking or apologizing. As it was, the show was maybe half full and people were already streaming out.

that's disappointing. did they already play these summer Mac festival shows?

I assume he's doing "Trouble" as well

yeah they opened with "trouble," lindsey and christine alone onstage.

Well, all "Sleeping Around the Corner" was missing to make if full Mac was Stevie!

truel but it sounds kind of small and weirdly enervated on the album. the live arrangement opened it up, made it more fun, bigger.

xp whoa that's awesome, that's a great opener

that show was amazing

"trouble" -> "wish you were here" is a real heartbreaking opening suite

also christine's voice was a little variable but she hit every note in "you make loving fun" so who cares?

i think "hold me"'s key was shifted but i assume that was for lindsey's benefit more than christine's

Could you hear much of her keyboard? How full was the audience?

it was pretty full but not sold out at the beacon theater i think. it was only difficult to hear christine's keyboard when lindsey was playing his solo tracks

i think i enjoyed this more than any mac show i've seen tbh

Have you seen Bucky solo? Because it was pretty much like every solo Bucky show I'd seen, plus special guest Christine doing her songs.