Rush: Classic or Dud?

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Reminds me of the Amadeus film, "I'm a vulgar man but my music is not".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 10 April 2017 20:36 (one year ago) Permalink

if geddy stepped in as the permanent Yes bassist I'd have no issues with that. I hate Billy Sherwood

Anderson et all released a press release today stating that going forward ARW are known as "Yes featuring Jon Anderson, Trevor kRabin,and Rick Wakeman". We'll see how long before Yes freak out and sue them, although apparently that's how they were being booked and promoted in europe already.

akm, Monday, 10 April 2017 21:02 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Wish that Sam Dunn documentary had a bigger variety of fans like Stephen Malkmus and Nicky Wire.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 May 2017 20:11 (one year ago) Permalink

He's a metal dude, and doesn't have much knowledge of much outside that scene. But yes, some output from outside metal/hard rock would have been cool to see.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I do like his stuff generally but I wonder if he sometimes pretends to know less than he does. Like in the power metal episode he sounded like he knew absolutely nothing about the genre and that doesn't seem possible.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 May 2017 21:43 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT1gmKUoqbY

\m/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:13 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBVya4G8uNQ

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 October 2017 17:55 (ten months ago) Permalink

I don't know where to see the whole thing, but there are bits of clips and stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVoEcHudb8w

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

Wish that Sam Dunn documentary had a bigger variety of fans like Stephen Malkmus and Nicky Wire.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:11 PM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, yes! Manic Street Preachers got the title of their album Lifeblood from one of the last lyrics on '2112' ("my lifeblood spills over") and the title track of Journal For Plague Lovers is blatantly influenced by 'The Spirit of Radio' ...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 29 October 2017 18:40 (ten months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

Amazing. "Three new species of microbe found in the guts of termites have been named after members of the Canadian prog-rock band Rush, owing to the microbes’ long hair and rhythmic wriggling under the microscope." (h/t @annielogue) https://t.co/dHxzbRQNqy

— Annie Zaleski (@anniezaleski) November 27, 2017

mookieproof, Monday, 27 November 2017 19:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

man I've been pretty into rush this past week out of the blue. really a shame I never managed to see them live.

akm, Monday, 27 November 2017 23:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

They were good but you didn't miss much, imo. They were famous - and justly so - for replicating the studio versions pretty much perfectly.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 01:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

You didn't really get much in the way of per se surprises but you did feel the general enthusiasm live for sure -- perfect balance between technical flash and heartland arena rock vibes leavened with a bit of humor as it went. Good working formula!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 01:56 (nine months ago) Permalink

Actually, the best experience of seeing Rush live was being in a big place surrounded by other dorks really into Rush. That and watching people try to air drum/bass/guitar at the same time.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

I'm listening to Counterparts for the first time, at least the reissue on Spotify. I always avoided it because I hated "Nobody's Hero". I still skipped that song, but, otherwise, I'm surprised by how much I actually really like this. Mostly not that different mainstream rock of the early 90s (which I have a nostalgic spot for) but the playing elevates it, pushes the songs ahead, and the sound is clear and muscular. Lifeson esp sounds great. Solos on "Alien Shore" (esp) and "Cold Fire" are great and "Leave That Thing Alone" is up there with the back catalogue.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:23 (nine months ago) Permalink

I think that was a record they did after hearing a lot of the bands they'd inspired, like Primus. I remember hearing the lead single "Stick It Out" and thinking, wow they're finally coming back! iirc album as a whole not *tons* better than the ones preceding it, but it was a kind of "welcome to the 90s" for them.

Dominique, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

Counterparts is one of my favorite Rush albums. Thought it was a big step up from Hold Your Fire, Presto, and Roll The Bones.

Moodles, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:31 (nine months ago) Permalink

It was consciously their "return to guitar" record, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:42 (nine months ago) Permalink

I did a buddy of mine's taxes one year and his payment was taking me to see Rush on the Counterparts tour! They were so good that tour.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 4 December 2017 19:44 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I ride hard for Hold Your Fire

also Presto was kinda a return to guitar relatively speaking imo

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

I ride w/u for HYF

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 5 January 2018 02:34 (eight months ago) Permalink

"Force Ten"'s been coming to mind the last few days.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

Force Ten's great, but there are a lot of weak tracks after.

Moodles, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

Time Stand Still is literally next! But yeah, there are couple lesser tracks before Prime Mover, Mission and Turn the Page. Still love the record, but a step down from Power Windows and a big step up to Presto, the latter of which I would argue is the apex of their songwriting, conventionally speaking.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

but a step down from Power Windows and a big step up to Presto, the latter of which I would argue is the apex of their songwriting, conventionally speaking.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, January 4, 2018 9:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the way this is phrased lost me a little in terms of which album is better than which

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:54 (eight months ago) Permalink

Power WIndows>Presto>>>Hold Your Fire.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:06 (eight months ago) Permalink

HYF would be a killer 40-minute album. Subtle changes already when looking at the shift towards CD, even from 1985.

(I bet that for many fans at the time, HYF was the Rush album they first bought on CD)

Master of Treacle, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:13 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think A Show of Hands was the first Rush album I bought when it came out, which perhaps explains my affinity for Hold Your Fire.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:22 (eight months ago) Permalink

Presto might be more consistent but the highs on Hold Your Fire are WAY higher and way more memorable than most Presto songs therefore I would take HYF over Presto

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:58 (eight months ago) Permalink

I agree. I like HYF slightly more than Presto because the good songs are really good, but there are plenty of not-so-good songs. There are more consistently decent songs on Presto (still plenty of clunkers), but none of them really thrill me. Roll The Bones has about 4 solid tracks and the rest are pretty much garbage. Also, I don't love the production on HYF, but I actively hate the sound of Presto and RTB.

Moodles, Friday, 5 January 2018 18:28 (eight months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B52bvzudAvQ

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 January 2018 02:11 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think reaction videos are weird, and that is not the first of these I've seen for YYZ, but awesome to see the enthusiasm, and even better to watch the awestruck reactions coming right when you'd expect them too. And now I am thinking of Michael Jackson, too.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 04:29 (eight months ago) Permalink

"i feel cool as hell listening to this"

budo jeru, Saturday, 13 January 2018 04:32 (eight months ago) Permalink

Thanks a lot for sending me down the youtube rabbit hole. This dude covering "Emotion Detector" (maybe my favorite deep cut) is awesome, not least because he focuses on the Moog foot pedals. Not that the foot part is hard or anything, but it's nice to see what someone's, well, feet might be up to during this, and imagine how hard it would be for Geddy to sing, play bass, play synths and do this somewhat syncopated pedal bass part as well, all at the same time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPcSC2BHTuU

Needless to say, one of a relatively small handful of songs Rush never played live.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 04:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

Haha, just found the long list of songs they never played live:

I feel like I post this a lot in this sub, but here's the list of every song that they've never played live.
*Take A Friend
*Before And After
*Making Memories
*Rivendell
*The Fountain Of Lamneth
*Lessons
*Tears
*Madrigal
*Different Strings
*Emotion Detector
*Open Secrets
*Second Nature
*Tai Shan
*High Water
*Chain Lighting
*Anagram
*Red Tide
*Hand Over Fist
*Available Light
*Face Up
*The Big Wheel
*Heresy
*Neurotica
*You Bet Your Life
*Cut To The Chase
*Alien Shore
*Speed Of Love
*Everyday Glory
*The Color Of Right
*Totem
*Dog Years
*Carve Away The Stone
*Peaceable Kingdom
*The Stars Look Down
*How It Is
*Vapor Trail
*Sweet Miracle
*Nocturne
*Freeze
*Out Of The Cradle
*Bravest Face
*Good News First
*We Hold On

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 04:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

And now I am thinking of Michael Jackson, too.

I'd never made that connection before, but yeah, Rush were apparently big fans of Off The Wall.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 13 January 2018 13:17 (eight months ago) Permalink

That "YYZ" video is great. They really nail it when they point out that it doesn't sound like anything else. A large part of Moving Pictures' appeal is that it feels almost completely sui generis. Tracks like "YYZ", and "Tom Sawyer" even more, just feel like they have no antecedent, no previous songs that you can point to as an influence.

Moodles, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:31 (eight months ago) Permalink

Well, I think you can find antecedents. What makes it so ingenious is that in a certain way it's sort of a prog pastiche, but they hide it super well, and a musical sense of humor, rare as that is in the first place, goes a long way. Also, brevity is the soul of wit.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 16:49 (eight months ago) Permalink

That's a real shame they've never played "The Fountain Of Lamneth" or "Madrigal".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:36 (eight months ago) Permalink

Weirdest was when they didn't play "Losing It" on the tour that had a string section! They did it once or twice on the last tour, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 January 2018 18:56 (eight months ago) Permalink

forget burn out or fade away, the best way to go is just to stop, ideally on top.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 20:35 (eight months ago) Permalink

surprised they didn't chain lightning on the presto tour, that's one of the best songs on the album imo

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:42 (eight months ago) Permalink

Guitar solo possibly unplayable?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 21:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

heh yeah it is really "out there" like super fripp/belew/reeves gabriel shit

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

I think it just might be backwards!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

heh yeah it is really "out there" like super fripp/belew/reeves gabriel shit

― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown

how do guitarists rate Gabrels?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:33 (eight months ago) Permalink

I am not much of a guitarist, but I have never liked him, from when the first Tin Machine album came out on.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 January 2018 22:46 (eight months ago) Permalink

wait, when did rush play "i think i'm going bald" live?

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

Reeves Gabrels is seemingly a very charming, wonderful person. Now that he lives in Nashville, it's weird to see him popping up in the comments of my friends' facebook posts just like no biggie.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:59 (eight months ago) Permalink


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