My name is Barry Allen and I'm the fastest man alive: THE FLASH tv show

It took me nearly a whole season to realize that Julian is Draco Malfoy

is there a DC TV universe thread or is this it?

Started watching Supergirl with my daughter and it is surprisingly great, even my wife likes it. Def the best superhero TV show (and a vast improvement over the DC films)

this is it iirc

supergirl is a lot of fun. melissa benoist is really great at playing wholesome positivity without being cloying

yeah, she is a v good lead, and I appreciate how it splits the difference pretty capably between soap opera mechanics, CSI cop show, and superhero action silliness

also, as i think I mentioned upthread, it features probably the most touching and sensitive portrayal of someone coming to terms with their sexuality i've ever seen on tv. it's got a real heart to it

supergirl and the flash are dev my favorite 2 superhero tv series, yes; and yes, they are better than the DC films by a fair margin.

hysterical evangelical nervous breakdowns on FB at the lesbian stuff in Supergirl this year were amusing to read.

well spoilidad I guess!

only fair, I am a couple of years behind

also, as i think I mentioned upthread, it features probably the most touching and sensitive portrayal of someone coming to terms with their sexuality i've ever seen on tv. it's got a real heart to it

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short lived bad sitcom whitney had a storyline where the sister came out as transgender that was surprisingly nice

so according to this Marv Wolfman intro to a recent Teen Titans reprint omnibus, there's a Teen Titans live action show in development w/Warner Bros...?

finished S2 of Supergirl w/my daughter - there were tears at Mon-El/Kara resolution of course. I assume what happens in season 3 is that Mon-El goes into the future and meets the LoSH and manages to cure himself/return but only after there have been a bunch of episodes establishing a new conflict/love interest back on earth so that when he gets back it's oh noes love triangle!

also I have no idea who the evil Kryptonian orphan in the finale was, not familiar with that bit of comics lore

I think I'm done with these, the season finale cliffhangers of both Flash and Legends were undone by the end of part 2 of the first episode of the new series and ghe status quo restored.

Arrow has flashback/forward/sideways to the point where I don't care what the actual time the plot is set in is, especially since they have rehashed a plot from S3 fir the first episode and a plot from S2 for the second.

Even Supergirl hasn't been much fun thus far, it seems to be falling into the problems you get when the supporting cast is just too big.

yeah towards the end of season 2 I was like wait how many storylines/main characters are there - 8? Kara, Mon-El, James, Winn, J'onn, Maggie+Alex, Lena? that's a lot.

" I have no idea who the evil Kryptonian orphan in the finale was"

it's someone called Reign.

this season of supergirl has been pretty good, the whole show seems to have slowed down a little and taken a breath. They're spending a fair amount of time developing the character that will become Reign.

Was wondering who stuck Kadee Sackhoff with an awful 'British' accent in the most recent episode, and turns out it was her own idea., because "'Everything just sounds more evil with an accent.'". Not enjoying this season's "FUNNYbooks!" vibe as much as the first two seasons. Hope it improves.

I'm the opposite, I love all the funnybooks stuff and wish it was Monster Of The Week all the time.

It could be worse, it could be Arrow. They've just introduced Benry from L O S T as the new big villain and last week...

He broke into the secure vault where The Internet is stored and tried to destroy it by "making it overclock itself until it explodes". Felicity solved it by Typing Really Quickly while the others helped by shooting arrows and bullets into server racks.

Really.

lol I just realized that I never watched the finale from last season. I thought the cliffhanger was Iris dying and never checked for another episode.

got sidetracked midseason on all of these last time around and i dunno if i've got it in me to catch up again tbh

It's not worth it. If you want to jump back in then do and if there's something you're missing then ask here or wiki. Your life will be better for it.

I'm with aldo, the more Silver Age silliness, the better. I'll take it over grimdark Savitar plotline and Draco Malfoy any day of the week.

Their take on Ralph Dibney is . . . something, though.

The Thinker could easily be overplayed and a bit G&G but if his masterplan is to reintroduce 80s throwback bad guys like the Kilg%re and Hazard then I'm totally on board with it.

Wow this last season was horrible more or less start to finish. Elongated Man was just awful. Even Devoe wore out his welcome well before his demise.

Elongated Man was

just had my first 3 seconds ever of interest in seeing a DCU TV show

New series, hope this isn't a rerun of Devoe with a twist or something.

The daughter character is great.

The disappearing Flash they've been alluding to for several seasons, is that a reference to Crisis on Infinite Earths? (Not up on DC continuity, though I own the CoIE issues). Or something developed for the show?

Waiting for Wayne Dyer to guest-star as the giver of the Motivational Speech of the Week.

Anyone else still watching? The daughter being tangled up with (spoiler) is both tedious and befitting Barry's "everyone's redeemable" outlook. Seeing a plot reliance on "let's try this" met with failure (curing Cicada's niece, getting a black market stasis field generator - the last two weeks), with a minor portion of the season's arc being advanced. Feels like filler, when they could wrap up Cicada in at least a half-season, and move on to CoIE, which is coming either this or next year. Need more character growth to justify all the padding.

Savitar, Devoe, Cicada - picturing these seasons with writers' room index cards for the first episode ("tease the Big Bad") and last episode ("our heroes win!"), with the other 20 cards being "hammy, glowering villain beats team", "character has personal crisis", "motivational speech", "heroes beat villain" plus "advance season arc by 1/20th".

That said, liked the Goldface character and was good to see Kimberley Williams (?) (who I think of as the perky Gabrielle Anwar) in this latest ep.

I'm finally caught up with the current seasons but still several episodes behind. Flash has actually kinda taken a backseat this year for me as Legends and Supergirl step up to knock it out of the park. Legends is hella fun and funny and I cannot say enough good things about them bringing Matt Ryan's Constantine into the fold (dude is like the perfect distillation of everything I love about the character). And while Supergirl's 'aliens = immigrants' plot may be a little sledgehammer, it's also on-the-nose enough to make for some compellingly uncomfortable viewing at this particular point in time. And also, mad kudos to Berlanti & co. on adding a transgender actress to the cast.

I am still on the previous season of Supergirl, which has been p good but I'm kinda tired of how drawn out this Reign plotline is.

Yeah, that was pretty wheel-spinny. The overarching 'can Supergirl's optimism overcome America's frothing rage?' plotline this season is a vast improvement. I especially appreciate that the origin episode where the new alt-right villain slowly discovered his inner xenophobe ended with his adoption of the standard Richard Spencer haircut.

It's really something that I'm currently finding Supergirl almost as anxiety-inducing a watch as Black Mirror.

I would say the silliest low point so far is when Mon-El (finally) got a costume so that he could teach Supergirl the ancient Kryptonian art of cool cape-fighting moves

Yeaaaaah, that was a little too Silver Age in a not-good way.

Supergirl's optimism is appreciated, since that was my main dislike of Snyder's Superman movies. He *should* be the big blue Boy Scout.

Along with the transgender actress, having a Muslim character on Legends was a nice move, not to mention the various gay relationships given the same screen time as straight ones.

It's nice that, with 472 shows across various networks and streaming platforms, Berlanti now has the cachet to push TV in as progressive a direction as he likes.

Benoist sells the character's plucky optimism and deep commitment to "doing the right thing" no matter what the cost, and that is a really strong anchor of the show imo. At their most basic level, the Super-family is an ideal, and the characters should be handled that way.

Could not agree more. Every 'Superman/-girl gets daaaaaaark' story prompts a 'you should not be writing this character you so fundamentally misunderstand' from me.

One of the core strengths of these shows is the casting of their respective leads.

Legends is so far ahead of the rest of the pack it's incredible and this season has been tremendous. Zari at the end of the New Orleans ep with the Constantine Reality Wave was A++++++.

Supergirl next best but could be way more Silver Age than it is BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE DAMMIT. Seasons half the length would suit it much better though.

Flash has dropped right off for the reasons noted above. I want dumb monster of the week storylines and more Ralph goofiness. The relationship between Nora and (spoiler) is ridiculous and I don't think it's clear at all why it's there.

I thought I was done with Arrow but the first few episodes (the prison ones) were banging. But now it's back to shit again.

For Black Lightning, read the Arrow entry.

Lots of beautiful people on these shows but Zari is the first I've straight-up crushed on. Her Groundhog Day ep last season was tops, love the actress and hope she sticks around for a long time.

And actually if I have one complaint about Legends at the moment is that it's getting more musical chair-y than I'd like. Just when I get used to a character, they split. Stop it, you guys.

(Also re: Zari, I'm torn between wanting them to just go ahead and call her Isis and realizing that that's probably not the best idea.)

eyyy uhhh did we know beard hunter and danny the street are gonna be in this doom patrol dealie?

https://youtu.be/6wtGnnLfTqA

I'm hard-pressed to think of anything that in theory I want so much and that in reality I do not want at all.

still pretty baffled to see cyborg in there, and it’s kinda weird/lol that the ideas and character designs are largely being taken wholesale from a comic that’s now four decades in the past (gulp) but they seem to be coming at it from a place of genuine admiration of morrison/case so i’ll give it a chance

why do you have a five-person superhero team and put the same guy on twice

always good to have a backup

so this doom patrol show... it actually kinda rules?

i've watched the first six episodes and it's doing a great job of capturing the vibe of the morrison run - it's surreal, unsettling, sad and funny and the cast are really good

very unexpectedly, joivan wade as cyborg might be the best of all of them - he plays vic stone as an upbeat, capable minor-league superhero whose deep well of personal tragedy makes him both a motivating figure for the group and also a good fit for their unique brand of fuckedupness

alan tudyk as mr nobody might be veering a bit too close to hamill's joker occasionally but he's good fun

really keen to see where they go with this over the rest of the season - it's a very pleasant surprise

Yeah, it's pretty great. Apparently Flex Mentallo before the end of the season too.

The dating app Cyborg sequence might have been one of the season highlights.

Goddamn it, I was trying so hard to hate-avoid this thing, you guys. Although I'm currently 100% sold on the utterly sacrilegious notion of John Constantine as part of a time travelling superteam so maybe I can relax my crack.

I am probably one of four people in existence who are hoping they eventually pull some elements from Rachael Pollack's run.

four people seems generous tbh

it's a lot of fun, you should def give it a try, if only to see how many ways brendan fraser can utter robotman's immortal catchphrase 'what the fuck?!?'

the worst thing i can think to say about it at this stage is that it seems to be a little too in love with having the freedom to have the characters swear, which is a very small complaint balanced against the knowledge that danny the street will be appearing in the next episode

There's a lot of swearing, sure, but there was maybe as much in Titans with much less joy.

ah, i haven't seen titans yet