A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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to be fair, i suspect most of the problems with the postman were caused by costner's ego

i'm more concerned that this guy's track record suggests we'll end up with a solidly middlebrow dune which won't satisfy anyone. what's the point in a dune which isn't batshit?!

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:25 (seven years ago) link

"...and Brad Pitt as Leto."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:26 (seven years ago) link

when I think of the best guy to helm a mushroom fueled sci fi epic I think of the dude who wrote forrest gump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:33 (seven years ago) link

nerds everywhere increasingly ambivalent

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 00:29 (seven years ago) link

we're talking Robocop remake ambivalent

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:07 (seven years ago) link

I note that this fellow, who is indeed an industry pro (to a fault, perhaps) also wrote The Horse Whisperer and The Concorde...Airport 79.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:40 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I feel like if Blade Runner 2049 bombs maybe this doesn't have to happen

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link

At least not with that screenwriter either.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well, it's still happening and...this is actually a smart idea.

https://www.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-says-hes-now-making-two-dune-movies-1823660070

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

this guy started out so promisingly, and now it's nerdstuff til he's done

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:54 (six years ago) link

Gotta get paid. To be fair this is top tier nerd stuff, imo.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link

nertz to that, other filmmakers alternate lucre with arthouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link

Kinda having it both ways simultaneously now. As much as you can for Mega Budget sci fi. I’m glad he’s around and doing these things.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:09 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

LONG LIVE THE CHALAMET

Timothee Chalamet (@RealChalamet) in talks to star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune' https://t.co/CLKsqLD7jV pic.twitter.com/k6r8WvadDU

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

I'm trying to think of who they could cast to plausibly lose a duel to T.C. Paul Dano?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

Smart move

I have just received Draft #4 of the DUNE screenplay from Legendary Pictures. This is for the first movie, covering approximately half of the novel DUNE. I'm very excited and pleased about this, and I'm beginning to burn the midnight oil. pic.twitter.com/nIfgb2zJ2J

— Brian Herbert (@DuneAuthor) July 23, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Feel like Brian Herbert being very excited and pleased about the dune screenplay is a bad sign.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link

Oh my god yes, get him away from it!
"DuneAuthor" as his Twitter handle, what a nerve.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:50 (five years ago) link

If I wanted to read the Dune series should I stop at Chapterhouse or are their post Frank Herbert books worth reading?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:34 (five years ago) link

The consensus is that the post-FH books are pretty weak fanfic at best. Certainly when I picked one of them up in a bookstore I found the writing cringeworthy, and apparently the stories are not much chop ("you know how they ended up banning thinking machines? well here's a story where a thinking machine went bad and t was bad for humanity so they fought back and outlawed them").

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:42 (five years ago) link

Ok so basically like ‘Solo’ then, got it, thanks.

I never got further than ‘Children’ and that was years ago. I wouldn’t mind revisiting them.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

I think I have about 150 pages or so left to read in Chapterhouse Dune. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago, every once in a while I have the urge to go back and finish it. I still have the book on the bookshelf with the bookmark where I stopped.

silverfish, Thursday, 26 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

(Kinda brilliant, really -- that was the only role I could guess would work for him and behold. Also enough of a blank slate character in the book that they can really go to town.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:11 (five years ago) link

And Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stellan-skarsg-play-villain-legendarys-dune-1174870

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:00 (five years ago) link

This cast is getting more and more interesting by the day. Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/charlotte-rampling-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1176429

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:57 (five years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:07 (five years ago) link

anyway I'll watch this for Timothee

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:08 (five years ago) link

Herbert’s characterization beyond Paul and Jessica is pretty light,- even everyone’s favorite character, Duncan Idaho is barely in the book, so there’s a lot that casting can bring to the table. I like it so far.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:36 (five years ago) link

somebody should write this up

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:37 (five years ago) link

Oscar Isaac potentially in as Leto.

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/oscar-isaac-dune-reboot-1203109822/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link

the first mildly enticing detail of this farrago tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:34 (five years ago) link

Οὖτις in as a Sam Elliottesque narrator.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 18:40 (five years ago) link

“Now this big ol’ dusty planet wasn’t the kind of place folks were fit to survive on...”

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

Sometimes the you ride the warm, and sometimes the warm rides you.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:53 (five years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

There were a lot of scenes filmed that were cut from the theatrical release - the wiki page gets into some of the details. Of all the cut scenes I've always been hoping that the banquet scene would resurface. It's somewhere out there sitting in a vault - I saw some stills at the 1984 Worldcon promo presentation about three months before the release.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:12 (five years ago) link

with Count Fenring and the rest of that? that'd be great- i reread the book recently and forgot all about that part of it.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 January 2019 21:16 (five years ago) link

in the book paul is like some suburban white kid's wet dream, total mary sue, and harkonnen is so cartoonishly evil that he comes off as parody... with that being said, the world building is fantastic enough to justify adaptations. i think this movie could really be great if the characters get fleshed out. cast is promising, fingers crossed

boobie, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 00:16 (five years ago) link

Not confirmed but...interesting rumor.

http://collider.com/zendaya-dune-reboot

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 January 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

all the stunt casting that’s engineered to elicit a twitter response isn’t going to change the fact that Villeneuve is gonna make this movie with all the personality of a loaf of Wonder Bread https://t.co/Md8VsfoBbR

— Awards Tse-son (@CarmanTse) January 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:10 (five years ago) link

Kinda true, that.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:12 (five years ago) link

If Deakins shoots it, I'll just enjoy the view.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 January 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

Deakins is not involved

Number None, Friday, 1 February 2019 08:48 (five years ago) link

Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/josh-brolin-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1186144

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

he may be ugly enough, but is he lumpy enough?

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:19 (five years ago) link

josh brolin is hansy imo

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link

Gurney NOT ugly enough and NOT lumpy enough—Dune certified rotten!!!

Dan I., Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link

And Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho!

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/jason-momoa-dune-reboot-legendary-1203140272/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 February 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

My favorite thing about "Dune"? There's a character named DUNCAN IDAHO.

Was Herbert munching on breakfast one morning, glancing sleepily at some boxes on the kitchen counter: mashed potato mix here, cake mix there...? "AHAAA!!"

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 February 2019 00:53 (five years ago) link

Momoa angling for a multi picture deal

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 15 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link

yeah, 31% positive on Rotten Tomato's critic tally

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 31 March 2024 02:02 (two weeks ago) link

I know it was hardly a hit but I recall people being enthusiastic about it, definitely worth trying if you like Gilliam, I've cooled on it a bit but I still think it's among his better films

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 31 March 2024 02:23 (two weeks ago) link

The plot summary for Tideland makes it sound horrifying.

default damager (lukas), Sunday, 31 March 2024 03:51 (two weeks ago) link

There's horrible things but the naive viewpoints of the girl and young man take the edge off

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 31 March 2024 04:56 (two weeks ago) link

nope

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 March 2024 09:55 (two weeks ago) link

gilliams lens makes it worse than the plot tbh

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 March 2024 09:56 (two weeks ago) link

it was horrifying and i’ll never watch it again but it was an interesting contrast to pan’s labyrinth in that both dealt with children dealing with unimaginable horrors, but tideland really felt like it was _her_ story told by herself (i don’t know if it would be tolerable told in any other way) while labyrinth felt very much like an adult telling the story.

scanner darkly, Sunday, 31 March 2024 17:14 (two weeks ago) link

There's some fun in it too, I recall Jodelle Ferland being good in it (she will be 30 this year, how is that possible? I'm turning to corpsedust)

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 31 March 2024 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

Tideland is much older than I thought. Ferland has mostly been in horror films and television

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 31 March 2024 21:00 (two weeks ago) link

Saw the first film for the first time yesterday, really liked it. It was all good and didn’t feel like it was as long as it was. Easily my favourite part was when the desert mouse is shown and our small tortoiseshell cat froze and stared at the screen and tried to get a better look. 10/10 motion capture, obviously.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Monday, 1 April 2024 13:16 (two weeks ago) link

Rewatched it last night in anticipation of seeing the second part. I enjoyed it more, probably in part because I watched it on a TV with good sound as opposed to my iPad with headphones. It's visually stunning, and even if it's mostly vibes, well, so is the book (which I now need to read for the fifth (?) time).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 1 April 2024 13:21 (two weeks ago) link

i dont mean to gripe but if ever movies needed watching at the cinema its these

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 1 April 2024 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

Thanks be to Odeon Luxe reclining seats in respect to that.

nashwan, Monday, 1 April 2024 15:42 (two weeks ago) link

i was hoping 1 would have gotten a general theatrical re-release but if it did I missed it. I would not mind wasting an entire day watching these back to back in a theater.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 1 April 2024 15:53 (two weeks ago) link

otm. they did put part 1 back in theaters briefly, but at least in my area it was over & done with a week or two before part 2 came out, so there was no chance to double feature them, which was frustrating.

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 April 2024 16:03 (two weeks ago) link

I finally saw Dune part 1 on an airplane, surely not the ideal viewing configuration, but it exceeded my somewhat modest expectations. I loved the book as a young sci-fi fan, and enjoyed the Lynch film. This version is perhaps better. It does a good job of finding the core of the story and building suspense in the right places. The pacing seemed about right. It wasn't as ponderous as I had been led to believe.

o. nate, Monday, 1 April 2024 16:09 (two weeks ago) link

here was actually surprisingly little up-close spice-related action or even conversation

― mark s, Saturday, October 23, 2021 3:36 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

kind of weird to adapt dune and barely touch on melange

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:36 (two weeks ago) link

well there was a lot of different things mixed in there tbf

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 21:53 (two weeks ago) link

Melange definitely better than her sister Beyonce

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 April 2024 23:42 (two weeks ago) link

^^^ music inspired by the book

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 11 April 2024 09:30 (one week ago) link

Saw the first film on Netflix a couple of days ago. Initial thought is this would've annoyed me if there was no sequel. It literally fucking stops.

Will watch the followup if it's still playing somewhere. Imagine waiting years for this. Not me mate

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:47 (one week ago) link

The music was very funny when the subs were trying to convey..

Low tense music
Tense music
Dramatic music
Loud dramatic music
Yodelling

Now forget but I wanted to make a poll on these

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 11:49 (one week ago) link

amazing issue to take with a movie that has sequels baked in but yeah ok

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:07 (one week ago) link

👍

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 April 2024 12:52 (one week ago) link

The music in the first film is probably the closest I can think of to a film using the score as pure sound effects.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:26 (one week ago) link

eraserhead is the original dune the movie

mark s, Thursday, 11 April 2024 13:28 (one week ago) link

what we need is prequels

“i don't like sand. it's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere”

scanner darkly, Thursday, 11 April 2024 14:28 (one week ago) link

I finally finished this and was surprised that Feyd was not also a skarsgard, because the actor was doing a pretty good skarsgard impression, and made me wish Jessie Armstrong had adapted Dune as the next season of Succession.
Also, House Skarsgard sounds like a credible Dune faction.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 19:45 (two days ago) link


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