Brian Eno - Here Come The Warm Jets Poll ~ Oh no Oh no Oh no Oh no Oh no!

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"Still The Same", yeah! I'm drunkish

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Monday, 3 April 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Baby's On Fire was tempting, but it's a little too too. Same for a lot of the (wonderful) tracks on this album. Needles, more than many things he did, is just an odd dream that appears and disappears before you can really come to grips with it.

dlp9001, Monday, 3 April 2017 23:40 (seven years ago) link

xxxp Well it is sort of radically earnest, which can strike random soberminded colleagues as vulgar. Not unlike Still the Same which I also love unabashedly.

gospodin simmel, Monday, 3 April 2017 23:43 (seven years ago) link

Never quite warmed to this one. It strikes me as vulgar at places. Like a bunch of Disney melodies with some Zappa-like scorn over it. The title track in particular reminds me of Hot Rats. Went with Needles in the Camel's Eye cause it's a good take on Bowie's take on the Velvets. Love Another Green World completely.

Uh what?!?!? Even mentioning Zappa in the same breath as Eno is 0_o

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Monday, 3 April 2017 23:49 (seven years ago) link

"Cindy Tells Me" is a little scornful.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 3 April 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link

I really love this album, though. Voting "Baby's on Fire", not least for the Fripp solo.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Monday, 3 April 2017 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Title track probably. When it comes down to it. Love this album though, I even like "Driving Me Backwards", although Kevin Ayers' "Song from a Bottom of a Well" did it first and better. "Cindy Tells Me" is a bit sneery, true.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Monday, 3 April 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I like "Driving Me Backwards" too.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:13 (seven years ago) link

I don't. Other than that, this is one of my favorite solo Eno records and this poll is impossible. At least half a dozen I could pick.

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:25 (seven years ago) link

probably just gonna vote "Some OF Them Are Old" for the drones and slide guitar

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link

sleeve, my kind of people

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link

also gotta disagree with Alfred here, side 2 >> side 1 although Fripp does kill it on that solo

the Dead Finks-Some Of Them Are Old-HCTWJ run is maybe my favorite half-LP-side out of all of his work

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 00:28 (seven years ago) link

It's tough but I went with Needles. The immediate runners up are Paw Paw, Finks, Cindy, and Baby -- but they're all pretty damn great.

Blood On The Knobs, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link

For me it's between Needles and Blank Frank. The former is just a great driving pop song with careening guitars while the latter has that weird calliope thing in the middle that is just too demented.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:02 (seven years ago) link

I didn't like Velvet Goldmine much, but "Needle" was used to perfect effect in it. That's kind of the only way I can elevate one of the first four songs above the rest - they're all excellent

Vinnie, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link

"dead finks don't talk" for paul thompson's wonderful drum pattern and the hand claps that come in after the guitar solo in the "bless my soul" section. and yeah, the sequencing at the end is lovely. title track could be looped for hours; when the drums finally sync up it's a really nice moment.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:06 (seven years ago) link

regarding vulgarity, i once read an eno interview wherein he confirms that the title is a reference to urolagnia. but that's rather oblique in my opinion and i simply can't understand where the zappa comparisons are coming from

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:11 (seven years ago) link

What can we say? The man loves his piss. Literally.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:17 (seven years ago) link

thinking about it, this album really should be ranked in terms of moments rather than songs. i agree that the blipping, chirping slide guitar on "some of them are old" is one of the strongest parts of this record. but i also think the song itself lacks momentum ("remember me" part goes on forever it seems like), and then BOOM title track kicks in and it's total bliss (similar effect when the lyrics to "baby's on fire" come in, after that interminable intro). part of me thinks that the songs being boring or hackneyed or kind half-assed in terms of pop artistry is what makes the cool moments feel so sublime. the technique is more or less inverted on "another green world" -- the long droney bits make a song like "i'll come running" feel magical, in much the same way that i'll do backflips for some bottom-of-the-barrel 1960s top 40 single after a four-hour brötzmann binge or whatever

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:23 (seven years ago) link

the title track because of how the drums sneak up on you

Treeship, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:34 (seven years ago) link

i don't think this album is nearly as good as the two that followed it.

Treeship, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:37 (seven years ago) link

actually idk. i am listening to it again and some of the tracks i thought i didn't like are sounding very good.

Treeship, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:56 (seven years ago) link

Treats me good just like an armchair

salthigh, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:01 (seven years ago) link

i really think that the lines people point to that seem to suggest some kind of unsavory sexual politics on eno's part are best read in context. everybody knows the lyrics on this LP are total dada word salad free association and coupled with eno's sort of androgynous self-presentation, stuff like that "armchair" bit read more like an accidental satire of big macho rock lyrics, rather than some kind of sly pseudo-poetic misogyny-but-i'm-an-artist-haha, y'know?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:16 (seven years ago) link

Huh i always thought it was "just like an object"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:19 (seven years ago) link

Either way I always heard that libe as eno being the object/armchair

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:20 (seven years ago) link

Now I've found a sweetheart
Treats me good, just like an armchair

Treeship, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:23 (seven years ago) link

xpost that's kind of a cool reading.

anyway, here's chrissie hynde interviewing eno in NME:

"Mexican pornography is an interesting island of thought because they seem to be heavily into excretory functions. The traditional American view is that anything issued from the body is dirty. It's incredibly puritanical and it resents bodily fluids, so if one is trying to debase a woman, you cover them with that and hence you get the fabulous term 'Golden Showers' - the term for pissing on someone, which some well- known rock musicians are said to be very involved in . .

"Here come the warm jets?"

"That's certainly a reference."

http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/nmetxt.html

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:24 (seven years ago) link

huh. he seems really gross and weird in that interview.

Treeship, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah

"the limp handshake (handshake?)"

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link

in fairness, chrissie hynde doesn't come out looking particularly good either

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:36 (seven years ago) link

20 year old me would want to kill me for saying this but:

I actually prefer Stranded to Here Comes The Warm Jets.

That being said, there are a few good tunes on here (the first two especially), but it is the weakest of his 70s vocal albums.

I voted for the title track.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:43 (seven years ago) link

Even mentioning Zappa in the same breath as Eno is 0_o

I just remembered that Adrian Belew ended up working with Bowie because Eno saw him playing at a Zappa gig in Germany. Though I believe Eno had just got free tickets and thought, what the hell I'm not doing anything else tonight.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:28 (seven years ago) link

I love Driving Me Backwards, had no idea it would be considered a weak link.

Voting for Baby's On Fire though. Intense!

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 09:43 (seven years ago) link

Voted Dead Finks, because his Bryan Ferry impression (which sounds like he's doing Elvis) cracks me up

frogbs, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 13:23 (seven years ago) link

Listening to this now. You're all wrong about Driving Me Backwards, it's probably the best song on Side A, opening track possibly aside

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Obviously TTM is the better album but you all knew that already

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link

i had a really hard time deciding between 'some of them are old' and the title track. it's hard for me to separate the two since they work so well together.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

xxp if I want overwrought howling I'll listen to a Peter Hamill record ;)

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Driving Me Backwards is some crazed misanthropic ahead-of-its-time goth vamp with exceptional sonics and a thickening plot

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:39 (seven years ago) link

I like it too but wouldn't single it out

in time of lost search (wins), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:44 (seven years ago) link

Threw my vote at DMB in the end as it is so bad and hated but the bookends deserve it as much idk w/e

an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

On Some Faraway beach is A warped version of " Still The Same" by Bob Seger

i know what you mean, there are huge similarities in the tune but "on some faraway beach" is about a million times better. it focuses much better on the main theme and it repeats it so many times that it becomes music coming directly from the heavens. it makes me melt away. you are right about the warped part, the piano has been drinking. anyways this is my pick of an excellent album from start to finish.

concerning the warm jets, they are on the cover. there is this game card with the policeman next to the woman in an obvious position on the beach on the left of the eno photograph.

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

another small little detail concerning "on some faraway beach". it was released in 1973, "still the same" is from 1978. go figure who influenced whom...

Alex in Spree-Athen (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link

There's lots of great stuff on here. While I would choose most other tracks over Driving Me Backwards I don't consider it weak either.
It was a tie for me between On Some Faraway Beach and Dead Finks Don't Talk, went for the mighty Beach.

Valentijn, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:14 (seven years ago) link

i see the Eno/Zappa connection. both were 70s misanthropic studio wizards that enjoyed making mutant deconstructions of rock n roll/doo wop.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

What? Eno has never ever been misanthropic.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:18 (seven years ago) link

allmusic: a "self-described non-musician [...] Eno championed theory over practice, serendipity over forethought, and texture over craft"

i think eno's theory of the "study as instrument" and his reliance on people who were competent enough to actually play guitar, drums, etc. distinguish him from zappa, who was a multi-instrumentalist and very much a control freak. whereas eno's well-documented use of chance methods sort of put him an a spot that's less studio-creep, more open to improvisation or at least input from the musicians he worked with (zappa almost always got full songwriting credit right from the start -- HCTWJ, at least, is different in that respect). it's also hard to imagine eno telling his band how to behave, what drugs not to take, etc.

as for the music, i guess you can call it misanthropic? you could point me to where that is, but i've never heard it. eno himself never comes off as such in interviews. he seemed / seems to be genuinely interested in humans and all the world has to offer. isn't that so? can you even imagine zappa being involved in something like the long now foundation? eno's politics are pretty right on.

i'll give you "mutant deconstructions" i guess, but i'd argue that's being generous to zappa. more like tasteless parodies. dude had zero sense of humor and, as has been discussed at length on other threads, his lyrics are full of just super gross sexism, homophobia, and machismo that is super direct and unpleasant.

budo jeru, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

eno's music is the opposite of misanthropic

Treeship, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:59 (seven years ago) link

yeah budo jeru OTM - Zappa and eno are not in the same wheelhouse.

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

I also forgot to vote, love it all - when there was that ilm 70s rock poll a few years ago I had this album #1, it is easily my favourite "rock" album

briscall stool chart (wins), Monday, 17 April 2017 21:50 (seven years ago) link

if i had voted it would have been for "some of them are old" because of how it leads into title track, they are like one song to me <3

this was the reasoning behind my vote! :)

Karl Malone, Monday, 17 April 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Blank frank is the siren, he's the air-raid, he's the crater
He's on the menu, on the table, he's the knife and he's the waiter

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 12 May 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

Eno: underrated singer and lyricist.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

not underrated by me
i love his lyrics, they span the spectrum from ridiculous to poignant and are super fun to sing
and tbh i have never disliked his singing, though it probably isn't for everyone

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link

blank frank is the messenger of your doom and your destruction

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 May 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link

not underrated by me

Underrated by Eno for sure! Singing and particularly writing lyrics are among the things he's done the least in the past few decades.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

Spider and I sit watching the sky
On a world without sound
We knit a web to catch one tiny fly
For our world without sound
We sleep in the mornings
We dream of a ship that sails away
A thousand miles away.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 May 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

At least as of a few years ago — he talked about it on the Colbert Report and elsewhere — he was getting together with friends to sing on a weekly basis, an exercise in pure pleasure that he meant to keep fun and fresh by saying no recordings allowed. I don't think not doing something for public consumption necessarily means that he undervalues it. Maybe yes maybe no.

WilliamC, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link

He loves singing! He does gospel, etc. Like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_72UC9npjg

Just clearly he loves doing it more than he loves releasing albums with vocals and lyrics.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 May 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

Some of them are old but it would help if you could smile
To earn a crooked sixpence you'll walk many crooked miles
And as you do, remember me, remember me.

one of my favorite bit of Eno lyrics.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 13 May 2018 02:41 (five years ago) link

"Driving Me Backwards" from the June 1, 1974 release is far superior to that on the proper album -- Ayers' cascading basslines add some real punch to the track.

bodacious ignoramus, Monday, 14 May 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

favorite Eno lyric is still "Splish splash, I was raking in the cash/The biology of purpose keeps my nose above the surface BUHHHHH"

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:37 (five years ago) link

It was his 70th birthday today, and I'm listening to the Warm Jets record and thinking, as much as I love his ambient work,that I would love to hear more of his singing and (lyrical) songwriting. That said, the 6-disc ambient set he released this year is great too.

Happy Brian Eno Day, all.

davey, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 07:42 (five years ago) link

Happy belated birthday, Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno!

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 09:19 (five years ago) link

favorite Eno lyric is still "Splish splash, I was raking in the cash/The biology of purpose keeps my nose above the surface BUHHHHH"

Agreed, this is a good one.

Belated happy birthday, Brian!

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

so this was news to me

"Brian Eno recounts how he (allegedly) pissed in 'Fountain,' Marcel Duchamp's famous urinal, in his 1995 diary A Year with Swollen Appendices"

Brian Eno recounts how he (allegedly) pissed in 'Fountain,' Marcel Duchamp's famous urinal, in his 1995 diary A Year with Swollen Appendices pic.twitter.com/oUqGuB3TRb

— priscilla page (@BBW_BFF) May 16, 2018

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

in b4 Warm Jets joeks

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

warm jets jokes must have been going on for decades already?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link

Yeah hard to get inb4 anything here, this album title famously refers to piss and eno has two separate piss anecdotes in his diary, he’s a piss guy

type your stinkin prose off me, ur damned qwerty uiop (wins), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link

Yeah I am new to Eno’s sexual proclivities sorry

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link

Damn it, I knew I shouldn't have changed my dn this morning.

Now I know my ABCs. Next time won't you scream at me? (Old Lunch), Friday, 18 May 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah hard to get inb4 anything here, this album title famously refers to piss and eno has two separate piss anecdotes in his diary, he’s a piss guy

The album cover features a photograph of a woman peeing!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

"Driving Me Backwards" is my fave (not sure if I voted here). never knew it wasn't rated/liked by others. and although I do love it Warm Jets is my least fave of the '4 vocal albums'.

as for sex, "ooo what to do in a tiny canoe" (Backwater) is my fave playful Eno sex lyric

Paul, Friday, 18 May 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

Correct answer is some of them ate old

Exit stage left (Ross), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

brutal

two cool rock chicks pounding la croix (circa1916), Friday, 18 May 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link


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