Shifting gears, I'm digging into Pipes of Peace on Spotify. Notwithstanding its rep as "leftovers from Tug of War," this is a more interesting and experimental record than it is given credit for – certainly more interesting than its predecessor's somewhat unremarkable exercise in formalism and LA Express smooth jazz. Paul's melodic touch is in good form throughout – I've always been a fan of "So Bad" (which received pretty heavy airplay on MTV IIRC) and "The Other Me" is a minor hidden gem. "Average Person" could be straight off London Town were it it for the more modern production. Also both MJ collabs, "The Man" in particular, are high quality. All told, there's less filler on this than any other post-1975 Paul record I can think of.
Also, given that his slide into 80s survivor mode would otherwise feel almost too easy, I appreciate the left turns on this record: the Linndrum sound, the sawing Martin orchestrations on things like "Keep Under Cover," and the weird mashup that is "Tug of Peace."
Demos on the expanded version, particularly on oddball stuff like "It's Not On," show he was very much on his game – and point to some of the studio experiments he'd be exploring in the years ahead.
A pleasant if extremely belated discovery.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:05 (three years ago) link
Hmm. I completely disagree, to be honest, especially about the comment about it having less filler than any of his post-1975 albums... I think Pipes of Peace is one of McCartney's weaker albums, although it has a fair amount of highlights on it. It's certainly down there near the bottom of the pile for me. What he really should have done was release the best of the stuff as an EP, and perhaps bundled it with Tug of War as the Pipes of Peace EP.
I'd say 'Pipes of Peace', 'Say Say Say', 'So Bad' and 'The Man' were the keepers. Destroy the rest without hesitation.
― The Roger Waters Experience (Turrican), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:13 (three years ago) link
Yeah that's what I thought ... and then I re-listened to it. Far more holds up than I remembered.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 15:16 (three years ago) link
I don't listen to Driving Rain as often as some of McCartney's other LP's, so it's been quite pleasant to revisit how fucking awesome 'Rinse the Raindrops' is.
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 21:17 (three years ago) link
'rinse the raindrops' is incredible, but you have to stop the album before 'freedom' starts playing
― fucking pop records (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:18 (three years ago) link
it's like following a banquet with shitty vanilla ice cream
I couldn't agree more. 'Freedom' is def. bottom of the pile McCartney for me. Something like 'Rinse the Raindrops' though, shit! ... when McCartney leaves us and the obituaries are being written and people finally dig deep into his post-Beatles discography, they're gonna hear things like 'Rinse the Raindrops' and go "fuck! I never knew McCartney was doing stuff like that!" and I'll be like "told ya!"
― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:30 (three years ago) link
New Swede Mason is relevant
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 August 2017 18:59 (two years ago) link
― yellow is the color of some raisins (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 August 2017 19:15 (two years ago) link
it has been a long time since i've seen something as funny
― niels, Sunday, 27 August 2017 01:20 (two years ago) link
That is hilarious. A friend just sent me the Swedemason clip and I came here to post it and ... that's the most recent post, from almost a year ago.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:08 (two years ago) link
Paul McCartney’s latest single is produced by Ryan Tedder and has a chorus that goes “I just wanna/Fuh You” https://t.co/UGy3MNKCM7— Stephen Thomas Erlewine (@sterlewine) August 15, 2018
I don't know what to say other than I find it ... very catchy.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link
just another in a v long line of embarassing Macca sexual innuendos
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:34 (one year ago) link
"fuh" doesn't even rise to the level of innuendo
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link
Ha! I like the fact that McCartney is still doing shit like that at the age of 76.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:23 (one year ago) link
this is the age of the horny septuagenarian
― ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:31 (one year ago) link
I'm sure our British fans will hate this, but I thought it was pretty fun, and even kinda moving:
― DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link
― DJI, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:39 (one year ago) link
The new song sounds like something Ed Sheeran would toss off and discard for being too sappy. It's not like it's Paul's first ever misstep, of course, but even at his worst he's always sounded like he's following his own ideas, this isn't even that.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:07 (one year ago) link
That’s about the least charitable reading of this possible but it may not be far off. Throughout McCartney’s solo career he has followed his various muses – one of which is to do “his” version of artists he admires. It’s led to some of his best stuff (“Arrow Thru Me” = Aja-era Steely Dan, “Summer Day’s Song” = BaAS-era Eno) and plenty of pablum. Perhaps this is his Sheeran nick. Or maybe it’s just his Viagra-era update of “Press.” Regardless, I love that he’s still doing it.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 01:34 (one year ago) link
“I just wanna fuh ... YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!”
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:56 (one year ago) link
FUH! All Night!
― DavidLeeRoth, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:33 (one year ago) link
it really sucks
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:40 (one year ago) link
Maybe he's calling back to this.
― Eliza D., Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link
His voice is near enough Fuh'd at this point.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:13 (one year ago) link
right therethat's itYES
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link
what is this shithttps://open.spotify.com/album/7piDt78gLATzAQv5JtQ4I7?si=pIvG0pnuTCmYQAqmixrXug
― niels, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 07:22 (one year ago) link
Love how the solo in "Maybe I'm Amazed" is the best George Harrison approximation he could do. Also the muted guitar in the second verse (I think -- about 2:15). Never paid attention to this song, but really digging it (this week).
― john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 03:00 (one year ago) link
Man, I've taken "Uncle Albert / Admiral Halsey" for for my entire life. There's so much to love in it -- the chirping, the harmonies ("allllbehhhrt...ahhhhl daaaay"), his voice in the Admiral Halsey part, "leetle leetle gypsy get around"...What a song.
― john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 01:32 (one year ago) link
If pushed, that or "Another Day" would be my POO Macca solo song.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 21 March 2019 05:28 (one year ago) link
I'm finally going out and listening to all of the Beatle's solo records. "Monkberry Moon Delight" was a nice find off of RAM. I kinda think that Paul is trying to get a Leon Russell thing going in the verses, but it's a bit more over the top. Kinda gets almost a Tom Waits kinda sounding growl at points.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 23:06 (eleven months ago) link
― timellison, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 14:20 (eleven months ago) link
I was thinking more Beefheart - his "Monkberry moooon deliiiiight" phrasing isn't too far from "Mooonlight on vermooooooont"
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:10 (eleven months ago) link
That's a good call ... certainly contemporaneous and in keeping with a lot of his solo efforts nicking other artists' styles for his own purposes.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:44 (eleven months ago) link
monkberry moon delight is a bit of a favourite in my household.
listened to Ram on sunday afternoon for the first time in ages. actively enjoyed it, especially uncle albert/admiral halsey, despite that being so excruciatingly paul at his whimsical worst
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:47 (eleven months ago) link
"Hope of Deliverance" is a charming little tune.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:20 (seven months ago) link
i finally picked up a vinyl copy of Flowers in the Dirt recently - first time i've owned it since unloading the Paul McCartney Collection expanded CD circa, idk, 2004? and i'm having a fantastic sunday night right now because this album is sounding amazing, every single track, whole way through. okay i'm not super stoked that "motor of love" just started but i'm feeling confident that its spacey sugary 80s production will sound a lot better in 2020 than even a few years ago. man, those "ah, ah ah ah" backing things are VERY "i'm not in love," aren't there?
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 01:26 (six months ago) link
oh WEIRD the vinyl edition did not include "Ou Est Le Soleil?"
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 01:32 (six months ago) link
maybe I'll buy that then, because that song is easily the worst thing on the album
― akm, Monday, 27 January 2020 02:33 (six months ago) link
haha i've always been weirdly fond of it. tho it is kinda stupid. i'm just too used to it as a refreshing palate-cleansing closer after "motor of love." but then in turn, thanks to that deluxe CD, i've also imagined the ideal conclusion as "back on my feet" followed by "loveliest thing."
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 27 January 2020 03:48 (six months ago) link
I adore "Figure of Eight," "We Got Married" (a "No More Lonely Nights" redux that works), and "This One."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2020 04:16 (six months ago) link
and the self-produced "Distraction," with its Clare Fischer arrangement, is pleasantly barmy
Kinda gets almost a Tom Waits kinda sounding growl at points.
― earlnash, Tuesday, August 13, 2019 6:06 PM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
spun “ram” on a whim today, this same thought occurred to me during MMD.
i’ll never stop being confounded by people who can’t get down with “uncle albert/admiral halsey” — first part especially. those layered, sighing backing vocals are so intense and beautiful
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 January 2020 05:54 (six months ago) link
It’s a lovely song and yet, also part of the Monty Python canon for me
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 27 January 2020 06:25 (six months ago) link
holy shit how have i never heard this
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 January 2020 08:01 (six months ago) link
There's a mono Ram knocking around online in various places and stone me if that isn't absolutely fantastic. A proper hard copy costs a fortune.
reveals that there's a nice drop of this
in there somewhere
― piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2020 09:54 (six months ago) link
huh I don't hear it myself
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:15 (six months ago) link
Drum fill used in Johnny Ryall
― PaulTMA, Monday, 27 January 2020 16:35 (six months ago) link
Mono Ram may be a fold-down?
― timellison, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:09 (six months ago) link
Nice interview with Alan Alda:
― timellison, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 22:06 (four months ago) link