Imagine if John Lydon had died in 1980 and Ian Curtis was making adverts for Country Life butter

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lol river's of blood

bomb diggy diggy diggy bomb diggy bomb (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

I'm glad I'm not the only cunt who keeps butchering apostrophes on here tbh!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:29 (seven years ago) link

xpost hahaha. Kinda wish Enoch Powell was a jazz fan but when he was on Desert Island Discs he chose 4 Wagner numbers, 4 Beethoven and one by Hayden. His book choice (bearing in mind you already are given a bible) was the Old Testament in Hebrew. Wotta twat.

everything, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:32 (seven years ago) link

one thing about old enoch that your modern day rightist chuds can't match is at least the horrible old bastard was a polyglot

darraghsack (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Lydon channeling Brendan O'Neill

Brexit is actually the most rock’n’roll thing to have happened in a generation. What we have here is ordinary people, including vast swathes of the working class, saying ‘No’ to the status quo, sticking two fingers up at an aloof elite, channelling Rotten and Vicious to say screw you (or something rather tastier) to that illiberal, risk-averse layer of bureaucracy in Brussels. It makes the student radicals of the 60s and even the anarchic punks of the 70s look like rank amateurs in comparison. Sure, those guys might have waved flowers against the Vietnam War or put safety pins through their snouts, but did they send the political class, the chattering class and the business elite into an existential tailspin by delivering a severe sucker punch to these people’s favourite institution? No, they didn’t. Brexit did, though.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/brexit-punk-thing-happened-years/

soref, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

didn't Gove also write some sub-Spiked screed more than a decade ago about how right-wingers are the modern day punk rockers?

soref, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

probs more than half of the music ilx listens to is written by a sexist, a racist, a misanthrope or a classist

all of you are going straight to hell

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

c u there

F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

People do seem to try and bend over backwards to try and defend Lydon over shit like this because of what he might once have represented

lol what did he represent? mainstream marketing of the ironic swastika?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

probs more than half of the music ilx listens to is written by a sexist, a racist, a misanthrope, a homeboy, a hippie & a funki dredd

oh good he's gone now i can take this off (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:27 (seven years ago) link

Big Audio Dynamite

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 21:29 (seven years ago) link

Talking of which, that Don Letts is a tedious look-back eejit, and I'm not racist - I have at least 2 Burning Spear albums!

calzino, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link

What exactly is Lydon selling anyway?

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:32 (seven years ago) link

$1.9 million house in malibu last i heard

i n f i n i t y (∞), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link

Can't get more working class than that.

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

Well he's anti middle class. Said nothing about the Malibu crowd.

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:44 (seven years ago) link

john, when yer dead you should ly don.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 22:51 (seven years ago) link

People do seem to try and bend over backwards to try and defend Lydon over shit like this because of what he might once have represented

lol what did he represent? mainstream marketing of the ironic swastika?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:27 PM (one hour ago)

john lydon and sid vicious were different ppl fyi

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

People do seem to try and bend over backwards to try and defend Lydon over shit like this because of what he might once have represented

lol what did he represent? mainstream marketing of the ironic swastika?

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:27 PM (one hour ago)

john lydon and sid vicious were different ppl fyi

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, March 28, 2017 4:02 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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gimp in wankouver (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 23:18 (seven years ago) link

"Good heavens! You frighten me to death"

everything, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 04:29 (seven years ago) link

when he was on Desert Island Discs he chose 4 Wagner numbers, 4 Beethoven and one by Hayden. His book choice (bearing in mind you already are given a bible) was the Old Testament in Hebrew.

tbf these are good choices

example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 04:32 (seven years ago) link

His luxury item was a fish smoker but I didn't mention it since there's nothing fascist about them.

everything, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 04:59 (seven years ago) link

Wondering about the literary merits of the old testament in Hebrew.

gimp in wankouver (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 06:03 (seven years ago) link

he chose 4 Wagner numbers, 4 Beethoven and one by Hayden.

Interesting that he'd mix things up with an indie singer-songwriter.:P Also, if that means he picked four operas by Wagner, I'm pretty sure that's cheating.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 10:55 (seven years ago) link

Wondering about the literary merits of the old testament in Hebrew.

the Psalms, Job, Jonah and the Song of Solomon are among the greatest literature ever produced imo. of them I've only translated a phrase or two from Psalms & SOS (and the little Hebrew I studied for a year in college has long since atrophied) but iirc the word is the OT in Hebrew has quite stunning literary merit

though the tempest rages, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 12:28 (seven years ago) link

Job needs more car chases and people being kicked in the face IMO, but I guess that'll have to wait for the movie version. Jason Statham is...JOB.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 13:55 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

Imagine an alternate timeline where Tony Hadley and Ian Curtis were touring as part of Blue Wedge.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

What if someone had started another thread about Lydon’s politics and the life hadn’t been sucked out of this awesome one?

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 10 December 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

No suitable thread to comment on, so picking this one..

Yeah, John’s talking tour gets pulled in Glasgow because his tour manager was aggressive with staff.

No news story has named the tour manager, but.

I’d not bother with this, but some comments allude to a high possibility that the Glasgow venue has ‘form’ for being .. dunno.

I mean, what would a tour like this need, beyond a chair, table and a mic?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 09:51 (two years ago) link

It's probably John "Rambo" Stevens, his long time manager/henchman

Total psycho apparently

Friend was managing a gig for a local venue a couple years ago around the time that comeback album that was decent came out, she said they were a total nightmare and she almost got into it with someone in the camp

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link

Not exactly surprised that Lydon is surrounded by boorish wankers tbh.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

i think he is just an old hooligan friend of lydon's from his youth that just kept hanging around as his enforcer

there's a um....tribute video to him on youtube lol, quite something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUqHd0POosI

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:49 (two years ago) link

Video: Carnival Cruise Line
Audio: Ian Curtis "This is the way, step inside..."

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

there must be literally hundreds of sad old football hooligan tossers nicknamed Rambo in the UK, they should all get together for a death match until there is only one true Rambo left.

calzino, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

Not all of them get to spend their entire adult lives wiping the arse of a friend who ended up famous.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link

On another note, I've only seen Lydon in-person once (in 2018 at PIL's Brooklyn stop), and I was surprised by how sheepish he seemed to be when he wasn't on and the music wasn't playing. During a song, it all melted away, and it was still like daggers when he flashed that famous stare directly at you, but outside of that, he seemed like a polite, harmless and insecure guy. I hadn't seen a picture of him in a while so I thought maybe it was because he had put on so much weight. (He seems to have lost a bit of it now.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link


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